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#101 Re: Installation » overlay-root » 2026-06-15 13:47:29

I had a build host for live isos that was set up that way, but things got moved around and now I just have a regular VM to work in. I think I let that virtual host go because I couldn't do vnc with it. Other than that, it worked and I didn't notice a difference.

#102 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repackaging Debian packages » 2026-06-14 15:56:58

Note: The list of banned packages is not the same as the list of forked packages, and there is no intersection of those lists. We fork packages to remove unnecessary dependency on systemd. We ban packages that can't be forked (things that are necessarily dependent on systemd). For example - systemd itself is banned, not forked.

#103 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/ » 2026-06-14 12:43:27

If you actually have i915 graphics, you might want to install a couple of packages. Run 'lspci' to check. In my experience, it will still work without that. I'm not sure if you miss anything that way - I don't do anything that requires intense graphics. Just simple games and video here.

$ apt-cache search i915
xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
firmware-intel-graphics - Binary firmware for Intel iGPUs and IPUs

#104 Re: Devuan » Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit? » 2026-06-11 00:49:30

Since user services seem to be in vogue, I'll mention that runit can be used to supervise user services. You can do this without using runit for the init system.
Here's a howto: https://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/ … _runit.htm

#105 Re: Installation » Trying excalibur desktop-live.iso in qemu i get a blank screen » 2026-06-11 00:41:03

I don't know the solution, but you could try the options in the failsafe boot one at a time, or eliminate them one at a time until you find the one that makes the difference. I would start with just adding 'nomodeset' to the default boot command. That one is often useful to eliminate black screen.

BETTER SOLUTION:
I used your command and added '-vga qxl' and the desktop comes up.

qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -nic user,model=virtio -vga qxl -cdrom isos/devuan_excalibur_6.1.1_amd64_desktop-live.iso

Make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-qxl installed.

#106 Re: Installation » Trying excalibur desktop-live.iso in qemu i get a blank screen » 2026-06-10 11:05:56

I get the same result when I use your command. Remove the '-nic user,model=virtio' and it works.

Note: I did not include the '-drive file=...' part in my test, so I don't know if that would also need to be changed. I use raw disk images and don't use virtio. e.g.  -drive file=${image_file},format=raw

#107 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Test ISO: refracta freia xlibre turnstile pipewire » 2026-06-07 21:10:40

I'm not seeing that problem in my seatd test iso:
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso

I can add a mouse after boot and it works, and I can boot with the mouse plugged in, unplug and replug it and it works again. I'm running the iso from a live-usb for this test.

That one has seatd without elogind or consolekit and without a display manager. (also no turnstile in that one)

#108 Re: Installation » Changing the login manager in excaliber. » 2026-06-06 21:29:50

To set the default desktop, run as root:

update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

#109 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Which tool is best for Devuan Derivative-making? » 2026-06-02 15:26:59

I haven't used live-build in over 10 years and never on devuan. I know there are some people who have used it with devuan.
Devuan live-sdk is similar to live-build in that it pulls packages from the repo and builds the system in a chroot. This is good if you're making a lot of different isos - you just need to alter the configs to do a different build. The downside is that you often don't know the build failed until the end of the run, then you have to start over. When you start building a new release, you can have frequent failures in the beginning because some packages in your list might not be in the repo anymore or may have changed names.

refractasnapshot does not require access to the repo to build the iso. It makes a copy of your running system with a few things excluded and puts that into the iso. Since it's copying an installed system, any questions about missing packages have already been answered before you started to make the iso. Also, since it's copying the running system, any changes you make right before running it will be copied into the iso. The downside of this method is that you must have an installed system, either on hardware or in a virtual machine, for each flavor you want to build.

To adjust what gets copied by refractasnapshot, edit /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/snapshot_exclude.list. See 'man rsync' for details.

Edit: one more difference between live-build or live-sdk and refractasnapshot is that refractasnapshot builds an iso that has an unprivileged user with a home directory. The others do not, but the live-config scripts create the user and home when the system boots. This affects which live-config options are used in the boot command. See 'man live-config' and probably 'man live-boot' too.
Note that live-build, live-sdk and refractasnapshot all use the debian live-boot and live-config scripts.

I don't know what those others are.

#110 Re: Other Issues » Question on Refracta snapshot » 2026-05-30 17:50:28

Add one or more of the following to the boot command. (linux line with grub boot, append line with isolinux/syslinux boot)

noautologin
nottyautologin
nox11autologin

See 'man live-config' for more details and more options.

#111 Re: Devuan » Will Wayland on Gnome etc. work on Devuan 6 in the future release? » 2026-05-21 14:56:14

Devuan 5 is daedalus (oldstable), Devuan 6 is excalibur (stable). Gnome works in excalibur. If you want to try it in freia (currently in testing) there's a netinstall iso, so you could install it to a spare partition or into a virtual machine. And if you do that, please let us know what you find. Thanks.

#112 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Unknown file » 2026-05-21 14:51:28

What kind of file is it?   file /root/fpv
How big is it? Can you see inside it with a pager or something else?
Does the date give you any clues? Maybe find other files with the same date to figure out what you were doing.

#113 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » alsa_out » 2026-05-20 16:39:55

I've used this in the past as /etc/asoundrc to get firefox to use jack. Haven't tried it lately.

pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave { pcm "jack" }
}

pcm.jack {
    type jack
    playback_ports {
        0 system:playback_1
        1 system:playback_2
    }
    capture_ports {
        0 system:capture_1
        1 system:capture_2
    }
}

ctl.mixer0 {
    type hw
    card 0
}

#114 Re: DIY » How to swap out sound cards at will, » 2026-05-16 19:18:09

I've changed the order of sound cards in some systems with the following lines in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or alsa-base.conf)

options snd-usb-audio index=0
options snd-hda-intel index=-2

I think it requires a reboot for the change to take effect.

#115 Re: DIY » How to swap out sound cards at will, » 2026-05-16 09:37:04

I call it set-default-card.  Put it in /usr/local/bin or somewhere else that's in root's path. Make it executable. Run it with or without the card number or with and without the usb audio device as many times as you want. It replaces the lines in asound.conf and restarts alsa so it takes effect.

#116 Re: DIY » How to swap out sound cards at will, » 2026-05-15 08:50:39

Here's a script to create or change the file delgado suggested. Run it without an argument and it will display the card names and numbers and let you choose the default card. Run it with the desired card number as an argument and it will set that card as default. e.g.  set-default-card 1

Run it as root or with sudo.

$ cat set-default-card 
#!/usr/bin/env bash
#set-default-card

choose_card () {
	while true ; do
		echo "Enter the card number to set as default."
		read ans
		cardnum="$ans"
		break
	done
}

if [ "$#" -eq 0 ] ; then
	aplay -l
	choose_card
else
	cardnum="$1"
fi

echo "defaults.pcm.card $cardnum
defaults.ctl.card $cardnum" > /etc/asound.conf
/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart

#117 Re: Installation » How install hplip-3.25.8? » 2026-05-14 21:42:11

Package-Name         Component            Required/Optional   
libtool              base                 REQUIRED            
cups-devel           base                 REQUIRED            
cups-image           base                 REQUIRED            
libusb               base                 REQUIRED            
python3-pyqt4-dbus   gui_qt4              OPTIONAL            
python3-pyqt4        gui_qt4              REQUIRED            
python3-devel        base                 REQUIRED            

The only package in that list that I could find in excalibur is libtool. Either they are looking for a specific version, or they don't know where to find libtool in a debian system. There is a libusb-0.1.4 and a libusb-1.0.0 in excalibur, but those either don't match the script's search pattern or they are the wrong version. Or again, maybe they don't know where to look. The others don't exist.

Also, most development packages in debian/devuan end in -dev, not -devel. There are a few libcups*-dev packages. Whoever wrote that script doesn't know that.

Why is it on sourceforge instead of some HP website?

#118 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Test ISO: refracta freia xlibre turnstile pipewire » 2026-05-11 14:53:20

Easier way to get to xfce. Don't know why I didn't think of this the first time.

At the isolinux boot menu (for legacy boot) press TAB, or at the grub menu (for uefi boot) press e to edit the boot command.

Add either 'noautologin' or 'nox11autologin' to the boot command. For legacy boot, it goes at the end of the command that appears at the bottom of the screen. For uefi boot it goes at the end of the linux line.

You'll boot to a lightdm login screen. Login as user with password user.

Has anyone tried this iso yet? Please see if you can break it. Thanks.

#119 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Boots to Blank Screen » 2026-05-10 12:40:07

I forgot to ask what graphics card you have. Run lspci to see that.

- Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines with (EE) to see if there are any errors.

- Look in /var/log/apt/history.log to see if any graphics related packages got upgraded.

- Look in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to see if the two autologin lines are uncommented and have the correct user name. Make sure you scroll down to the [Seat:*] section and not in the extensive comments section above.

- Before you run startx, log in as root and run service lightdm status. If it's not running, try starting it, and if it's running, try restarting it. service lightdm start or service lightdm stop && service lightdm start (I can never get 'restart' to work.)

#120 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Boots to Blank Screen » 2026-05-10 10:30:07

Which desktop environment, which display manager (or none?) and how did you set up autologin? It's usually in the display manager's config file (e.g. /etc/slim.conf) but there's also a way to do it with startx.

#121 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] REFRACTA vs. DEVUAN desktop-live, differences ? » 2026-05-10 10:26:21

Refracta has

- few metapackages and excludes Recommends to make it leaner and easier to remove packages to customize the system. It used to fit on one CD.
- added diagnostic, rescue and repair tools, mostly cli.
- a few config tweaks - kernel.sysrq=1 in sysctl.conf, ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS in adduser.conf, ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes in /etc/default/su and a few others.
- openssh-server running so you can log in remotely if there's no display. NOTE: The world knows your password. You should be behind a router and not have port forwarding set up or else unplug the network cable.
- Refracta is older than Devuan. That's why the version numbers match Debian's.

I feel like I'm forgetting something, but those are the main differences.

#122 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Steps required to upgrade the desktop-live .ISO » 2026-05-09 19:42:50

I would expect the initramfs to contain the modules for the running kernel, and I would expect the running kernel to be the old one. A live system is read-only, so if you upgrade the kernel, you have to reboot to use that kernel, but when you reboot, the new kernel is no longer there. It was only in memory.

You need a persistent partition or an installed system to upgrade the kernel and put it into a new snapshot.

You might be able to do it from the live system if you chroot into the copy of the filesystem. I'm not sure if that would work. The new kernel will be there in the storage media after you install it and run refractasnapshot once.

You need to set refractasnapshot.conf to save the filesystem copy. Then maybe you can chroot into the fs copy and run 'update-initramfs -u -k all' and then copy the new kernel and initramfs to /iso/live/vmlinuz and /iso/live/initrd.img. Then run refractasnapshot again and choose "Re-squash and make iso (no-copy)" so you don't clobber your edits.

#123 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Steps required to upgrade the desktop-live .ISO » 2026-05-09 18:01:57

Yes, that way will work if you don't want to use qemu or virtualbox. Another way would be to  use a spare partition on your hard drive instead of external storage media, but those are essentially the same thing.

#124 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Steps required to upgrade the desktop-live .ISO » 2026-05-09 10:42:13

live-sdk downloads all the packages every time it runs. If you have a fast internet connection, that's not bad. It's especially good if you want to make several isos with different content. You just use different config files for the different builds. The downside is that if there's anything wrong in the build setup, or if you list a package to be installed when that package doesn't exist, the whole build fails and you have to start it again.

My preferred workflow is to install a system into a VM and make the snapshot there. Then I can upgrade the VM any time I want and make a new iso. It doesn't have to download the whole system every time.

Then, if I want to use a live, read-only system, I just boot the iso file inside a VM and use that. Then I don't have to reboot the computer to switch to read-only. When the VM shuts down, everything from that session is gone.

#125 Re: Installation » Setting up automatic updates (or something close to it). » 2026-05-07 23:59:04

It should work with whatever is in your apt sources and do the same as using apt or apt-get to update and upgrade.

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