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greenjeans · Yesterday 01:32:04

My life is too short and my time too valuable to spend on the debian installer, i'd rather beat my junk with a ball-peen hammer, it's like trying to install win xp back in the day. Has anybody tried the Calamares installer? Is it any better?

Thank the gawds and fsmithred for Refracta-installer, without it I just wouldn't bother.

laurie_dev1 · Yesterday 05:42:54

By junk, i hope you mean old pc junk .
I dont mind the installer myself, one thing i would like when I used it would be to restart the installer after making a mistake.
So far all i can gather is you have to abort the installer and reboot and start again, especially with partitioning.

brocashelm · Yesterday 06:15:10

Couldn't Salix's live installer be ported to a Debian-based distro? I like that it's easy on the eyes with all the essentials on one screen to use to configure what you need, which cuts straight to the point.

Camtaf · Yesterday 09:37:51

Calamares installer?

MX Linux & antiX both use it, from memory, so should be easy enough to include.

ralph.ronnquist · Yesterday 11:19:02

Interesting. So your great idea is that someone else should go and actually do something because you think it appears to be an easy thing?

ceeslans · Yesterday 11:57:42

MX Linux & antiX both use it, from memory, so should be easy enough to include.

Don't think so. MX and antiX have been using the gazelle-installer for years

fsmithred · Yesterday 12:29:39

Calamares and I had disagreements about my partitioning scheme.
Last time I tried it, it needed around 125mb of software to work. That was a few years ago.

rations · Yesterday 14:35:16

Hi greenjeans, I've been working on calamares as I have friends that live a long way away who I told to install vuudo and they couldn't plus I had trouble installing vuudo as well. It might seem easy to all you clever folks who live and breath this stuff but not for people like me who don't know and don't want to know because it's just a computer. And reading the documentation is totally a no go area. If any of this helps go for it. I'm putting this together as more of a linux for dummies. Don't use the debian settings version just get the plain old calamares package. And yes as always I use chat bots to guide me. Like I've said before they aren't going away, learn how to use them to your advantage.

componentName: devuan

# Images used in the slideshow
slideshow: 
    images:
        - "slide1.png"
        - "slide2.png"
        - "slide3.png"

# Stylesheet for the installer
stylesheet: "stylesheet.qss"

# Logo shown in the installer
logo: "logo.png"

# Window settings
window:
    size: 1024x768
    minimumSize: 1024x768
    maximumSize: 1920x1080

# Strings for the installer
strings:
    productName: Devuan Excalibur Openbox
    shortProductName: Devuan
    version: 6.0
    shortVersion: 6
    productUrl: https://sourceforge.net/projects/unofficial-devuan-openbox/
    supportUrl: https://www.there is none
    knownIssuesUrl: https://www.heaps
    releaseNotesUrl: https://sourceforge.net/projects/unofficial-devuan-openbox/files/
    bootloaderEntryName: Devuan

# Slide show settings
slideshow:
    timeout: 30]

/* Devuan Excalibur Openbox Calamares Stylesheet */

QWidget {
    font-family: "DejaVu Sans";
    font-size: 11pt;
    color: #2c3e50;
}

QMainWindow {
    background-color: #f5f5f5;
}

/* Header styling */
QHeaderView::section {
    background-color: #3d5a80;
    color: white;
    padding: 5px;
    border: 1px solid #2c4a70;
}

/* Button styling */
QPushButton {
    background-color: #3d5a80;
    color: white;
    border: 1px solid #2c4a70;
    border-radius: 3px;
    padding: 8px 16px;
    min-width: 80px;
}

QPushButton:hover {
    background-color: #4a6fa5;
}

QPushButton:pressed {
    background-color: #2c4a70;
}

QPushButton:disabled {
    background-color: #cccccc;
    color: #666666;
}

/* Progress bar */
QProgressBar {
    border: 1px solid #3d5a80;
    border-radius: 3px;
    text-align: center;
}

QProgressBar::chunk {
    background-color: #3d5a80;
}

/* List and tree views */
QListView, QTreeView {
    background-color: white;
    border: 1px solid #cccccc;
    alternate-background-color: #f0f0f0;
}

QListView::item:selected, QTreeView::item:selected {
    background-color: #3d5a80;
    color: white;
}

/* Line edits */
QLineEdit {
    border: 1px solid #cccccc;
    border-radius: 3px;
    padding: 5px;
    background-color: white;
}

QLineEdit:focus {
    border-color: #3d5a80;
}

/* Combo boxes */
QComboBox {
    border: 1px solid #cccccc;
    border-radius: 3px;
    padding: 5px;
    background-color: white;
    min-width: 100px;
}

QComboBox:focus {
    border-color: #3d5a80;
}

QComboBox::drop-down {
    border: 0;
    width: 20px;
}

QComboBox::down-arrow {
    image: none;
    border: 5px solid transparent;
    border-top: 5px solid #3d5a80;
    width: 0;
    height: 0;
}

/* Labels */
QLabel {
    color: #2c3e50;
}

QLabel#title {
    font-size: 16pt;
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #3d5a80;
}

/* Checkbox and Radio buttons */
QCheckBox, QRadioButton {
    spacing: 5px;
}

QCheckBox::indicator, QRadioButton::indicator {
    width: 16px;
    height: 16px;
}

/* Group boxes */
QGroupBox {
    font-weight: bold;
    border: 1px solid #cccccc;
    border-radius: 3px;
    margin-top: 10px;
    padding-top: 10px;
}

QGroupBox::title {
    subcontrol-origin: margin;
    left: 10px;
    padding: 0 5px;
}

/* Scroll areas */
QScrollArea {
    border: none;
}

/* Slideshow styling */
#slideshow {
    background-color: #2c3e50;
}

/* Sidebar styling */
#sidebar {
    background-color: #3d5a80;
    color: white;
}

#sidebar QLabel {
    color: white;
}

/* Welcome page */
#welcome-page {
    background-image: url(tuxbeach.jpg);
    background-position: center;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
}

rations · Yesterday 14:44:53

There's a readme here on what I'm doing https://sourceforge.net/projects/unoffi … box/files/ I just made it to show you and It does not work yet, but i'll get there. Also like fsmithred said it's bloated but I think it would be good for vuudo

Tux beach

Devuan splash

greenjeans · Yesterday 16:03:28

FYI I didn't start this thread, I made a post that got moved. But I do appreciate the replies and insight.

rolfie · Yesterday 16:56:59

Isn't Calamares used on Devuan Live media? Or am I wrong here?

When I tried a Live once in a VM I figured that I couldn't install encrypted. A NoGo for me.

golinux · Yesterday 17:45:37

rolfie . . . I think the Devuan live installer uses Simple Distro Kit which is a Dyne thing.

greenjeans · Yesterday 18:00:37

I'm always shocked when I hear people that have issues with the Refracta-Installer, for me it's literally the best install experience in 18 years of Linux, so simple and straightforward....10 minutes or less and i'm done, never had it fail on me. I honestly don't see how it could be made more user-friendly. The installer script itself is only 67 kb, I know it like the back of my hand and if I thought it could be made better I wouldn't hesitate to try things and report my findings to fsmithred for possible inclusion.

What about it is be-fuddling folks?

fsmithred · Yesterday 18:34:04

@rations: If you get calamares working, I'd like to know how to do it so I can try it again. Thanks.

Re: Simple Distro Kit - the SDK is for building the iso. Included in the iso is refractainstaller. Unlike refractasnapshot, which copies the running system to turn it into an iso file, SDK pulls packages from the repo and makes the iso. The difference is that the system made by SDK has never been booted.

greenjeans · Yesterday 20:17:18

Calamares and I had disagreements about my partitioning scheme.
Last time I tried it, it needed around 125mb of software to work. That was a few years ago.

Yeah I just checked, 147 mb on my machine, basically the QT kitchen sink and all the dishes. Yikes.

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