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Apparently, I can only split off the posts that are on the same page into the same thread. To read the beginning of this thread, go to https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=8088
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Read the last post in the bug thread I linked. The fix has been merged. Package soon.
This is just a guess, but maybe...
apt install intel-microcodeor if one had amd hardware...
apt install amd64-microcodeBut like I said, that's a guess. I could be way off-base. Maybe I don't really know what the question is.
@fredbird67: I just tried extrepo to install xlibre, and it didn't work. The install command gave me an error message about an undefined subroutine. I also figured out that I probably need to run 'extrepo enable xlibre' and it added a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that points to the wrong (unmaintained) xlibre repository.
The correct way to get xlibre in devuan is to follow the instructions here, provided by NexusSfan:
https://xlibre-debian.github.io/
That way you'll get updates as more things get fixed.
Thanks for the warning. I downloaded the 149.x version before doing the upgrade. Chromium-150 appears for a fraction of a second and disappears. No keyrings here. I get a message when I try to start it from command line:
$ chromium
[0706/080813.360978:ERROR:third_party/crashpad/crashpad/snapshot/elf/elf_dynamic_array_reader.h:64] tag not found
Trace/breakpoint trapIf anyone knows what that means, I'd be interested to hear about it.
Meanwhile...
### Download these (or from your favorite debian mirror)
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/chromium/chromium_149.0.7827.196-1~deb13u1_amd64.deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/chromium/chromium-common_149.0.7827.196-1~deb13u1_amd64.deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/chromium/chromium-sandbox_149.0.7827.196-1~deb13u1_amd64.deb
### And force-install them
dpkg --force-downgrade -i chromium*.debIt's been reported (multiple times) and there's a suggested patch.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … ug=1141488
I expect there will be a new version very soon.
I'm glad you got it installed. The netinstall iso gives you some software choices. The live install just gives you whatever is in the iso.
@Camtaf: The live installer does not need internet to work and does not download anything. If you notice that something is missing for it to work, let me know and I'll add it to the next build.
excalibur-backports tracks trixie-backports. Any delay should be no more than a couple hours. Are you sure it's really in trixie-backports? Searching at packages.debian.org still shows 2026.03.17-1~bpo13+1 in trixie-backports.
Regardless of that, any updates will likely be too late. I just copy the yt-dlp script to my user's bin/ so I don't have to be root to update it, and I update it whenever I use it. (run: yt-dlp -U)
From here: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
Sometimes the bootloader doesn't install correctly. If you know how to chroot, you could boot the live, chroot into the installed system and install grub and then run update-grub to get a boot menu. I left a few steps out of this.
Easier method might be to get the netinstall iso, boot into Rescue mode from the boot menu, and reinstall the bootloader. Those are all menu choices.
For more detailed instructions, we need to know if you're booting uefi or legacy bios (CSM) and whether or not you have a separate partition for /boot.
Thanks for that info. I made a note to myself to try a few different settings when I next make some live-isos. Faster builds and faster boots would be nice.
This is what I have for programs with logind in the name after a recent upgrade to excalibur. Make sure you have all of these.
$ dpkg -l | grep logind
ii elogind 255.17-2 amd64 user, seat and session management daemon
ii libelogind-compat:amd64 255.17-2 amd64 user, seat and session management library compatibility
ii libelogind0:amd64 255.17-2 amd64 user, seat and session management library
ii libpam-elogind:amd64 255.17-2 amd64 elogind PAM module
ii libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0:amd64 126-2devuan1+excalibur1 amd64 polkit Authorization APIDevuan has systemd-standalone-tmpfiles which Provides systemd-tmpfiles. I don't know if that's helpful in this situation.
seatd support was added to xlibre a few months ago. I made a freia test live iso with seatd and without elogind or consolekit. Also there's no display manager. Use 'startx' to get a graphical session.
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso
login: user, password: user
root password is root
You used the desktop-LIVE iso that camtaf suggest you not use. Try one of the installer isos - either the netinstall or desktop iso found here: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_excalib … aller-iso/
The desktop iso has all the packages you need in case you want to install something without a network connection. The netinstall iso only has the base system and needs network to install other stuff. Both of those will use the network to pull packages from the repo when you install. Both of those use the debian-installer (for devuan) and will let you choose a different desktop environment.
Here's the full list for autofs. I've only ever used stop|start|restart. :
# service autofs
Usage: /etc/init.d/autofs {start|forcestart|stop|restart|forcerestart|reload|force-reload|status}There might be commands on the other end, depending on what you're automounting. (e.g. commands for samba or nfs)
You shouldn't need to set the defaults with update-rc.d unless you changed them.
Any packages that require systemd should not show up in our repo. If you run into one, let us know about it.
You can add turnstile to the no-elogind build. I just tried it, and it doesn't pull anything else in.
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso
If you want the missing packages, you need to add non-free-firmware to sources.list and then 'apt update'. You probably don't need firmware-intel-misc, but the -graphics package has firmware for i915. I don't know if it will make it work better.
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged freia main non-free-firmwareYou do not use the banned list. Amprolla uses that list to prevent you from installing systemd so you don't screw up your system.
Recompiling a debian package for devuan makes no sense. For 99% of the packages in the repository, that's like saying you want to recompile a debian package for debian. They are the exact same packages. Whenever you install something in devuan, if it's not one of our forked packages, apt pulls it from the debian repository. Amprolla stands between you and the debian repo to filter out the banned packages.
Certainly, if you want to change something in the package, then yeah, you can recompile it with your changes.
That's what we do with the packages we fork. We recompile them to remove the systemd dependency.
Here's some documentation about that: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … ngGuide.md
After reading your post I realized that I don't have an excalibur install with a separate /boot partition, but I do have a couple of daedalus installs with boot partitions that are 500M or smaller. I'm not ready to upgrade those, so I did a test in a VM. Results below:
200M /boot was too small. I'm not sure why it failed to boot and dropped me to initramfs prompt. I rebooted with a live iso, went into chroot to reinstall grub, update-grub and then run 'update-initramfs -u -k all'. It ran out of disk space and failed.
360M /boot works. I don't recommend using such a small size, but only because we're getting so many kernel upgrades lately, it's easy to accumulate too many to fit. (I think 300M will hold three kernels)
Disk /dev/sda: 8 GiB, 8589934592 bytes, 16777216 sectors
Disk model: QEMU HARDDISK
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x460d0caf
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 2048 739327 737280 360M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 739328 16777215 16037888 7.6G 83 Linux
Disk /dev/mapper/root_fs: 7.63 GiB, 8194621440 bytes, 16005120 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/root_fs 7.5G 4.2G 3.0G 59% /
/dev/sda1 328M 65M 242M 21% /bootI had a build host for live isos that was set up that way, but things got moved around and now I just have a regular VM to work in. I think I let that virtual host go because I couldn't do vnc with it. Other than that, it worked and I didn't notice a difference.
Note: The list of banned packages is not the same as the list of forked packages, and there is no intersection of those lists. We fork packages to remove unnecessary dependency on systemd. We ban packages that can't be forked (things that are necessarily dependent on systemd). For example - systemd itself is banned, not forked.
If you actually have i915 graphics, you might want to install a couple of packages. Run 'lspci' to check. In my experience, it will still work without that. I'm not sure if you miss anything that way - I don't do anything that requires intense graphics. Just simple games and video here.
$ apt-cache search i915
xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
firmware-intel-graphics - Binary firmware for Intel iGPUs and IPUsSince user services seem to be in vogue, I'll mention that runit can be used to supervise user services. You can do this without using runit for the init system.
Here's a howto: https://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/ … _runit.htm
I don't know the solution, but you could try the options in the failsafe boot one at a time, or eliminate them one at a time until you find the one that makes the difference. I would start with just adding 'nomodeset' to the default boot command. That one is often useful to eliminate black screen.
BETTER SOLUTION:
I used your command and added '-vga qxl' and the desktop comes up.
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -nic user,model=virtio -vga qxl -cdrom isos/devuan_excalibur_6.1.1_amd64_desktop-live.isoMake sure you have xserver-xorg-video-qxl installed.
I get the same result when I use your command. Remove the '-nic user,model=virtio' and it works.
Note: I did not include the '-drive file=...' part in my test, so I don't know if that would also need to be changed. I use raw disk images and don't use virtio. e.g. -drive file=${image_file},format=raw