How to Install XLibre on Devuan Daedalus (MATE)?

stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · 2025-07-01 11:26:14

couple of threads mentioning XLibre but this one seems less volatile so will post here:

https://bkhome.org/news/202506/xorgx11-lives-on.html

JWM-Kit · 2025-07-02 13:46:13

trinidad wrote:

Yikes!! There's actually no real peer to Debian packaging. I guess you mean better than itself?

I notice how you had to shorten the quote of what I said to even make your argument seem valid. I pointed out exactly how other systems allow you to create a package by creating a single simple file. All you need is a text editor.

Is creating a proper Debian package that hard? No. Is it way more complicated then most other systems? Yes. There isn't even an argument to be had here. It's obvious to anyone who has created packages for different systems. The only reason anyone would disagree with me here is 1. They have no experience creating packages, or 2. They intentionally want to be disagreeable.

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JWM-Kit · 2025-07-02 13:48:35

Thanks @stargate-sg1-cheyenne for the link to Barry's blog. I'm not a user of easyOS or PuppyLinux, but I do follow them because they are unique from other distros.

tux_99 · Yesterday 01:50:42

I agree with @JWM-Kit, I find the RPM spec file format more logical and clearer structured and therefore easier to read (and write) than the collection of multiple Debian packaging configuration files.
The Arch pkgbuild file format is almost as good as the RPM spec file format, the only thing I really don't like about the Arch pkgbuild file format is that it lacks a Changelog (for me this is a major negative point as sometimes I would like to be able to check what changed between package updates).

The RPM spec file format is one of the few really good things that Redhat has contributed to the Linux world (unlike pulseaudio, systemd, gnome3 and wayland).

BTW, using the RPM package format does not mean not being able to use the apt package management tools, in fact there is at least one Linux distro (PCLinuxOS) that uses RPM packages but uses apt and synaptic as their package manager.

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stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · Yesterday 05:02:30

as of this post/date/time, the pclinuxos website only seems to resolve to a new/blank/wtf wordpress webpage. nothing lasts forever. as always, your mileage may vary.

tux_99 · Yesterday 05:18:43

I have no idea what happened to the pclinuxos website (I'm not a pclinuxos user at all) but the status of the pclinuxos website is completely beside the point I was making, I simply said that it's technically possible to combine the RPM package format with apt as package manager, there are/were at least a couple of other distros doing the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT-RPM

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hunter0one · Yesterday 23:52:11

I'm a PCLinuxOS user & maintainer. The person who hosted the site, wiki, and forum lost his equipment to a fire. You can find the new forum here: https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum

The main PCLOS page just points to the new forum now, Tex put a temporary WordPress template there.

APT-RPM can definitely be used, but APT-RPM is quite old and unmaintained, similar to Xorg.

I would be happy to come to Devuan as someone who enjoys packaging. I used it for a while several years ago, but DEB packaging seems a lot more daunting than RPM. I asked here once how to package for it because I would be happy to help paint the way forward for Devuan but nobody replied and the only package I made which is my usual guinea pig for different packaging formats, zramen, just made me very skeptical of packaging in the DEB format.

tux_99 · Today 03:34:59

@hunter0one during my researches about debian packaging I recently came across the following tool which could make life easier for those of us here who have RPM packaging experience (I have done some packaging for Mandriva, Mageia and Centos 6 in the past) and would like to package for Devuan:

https://github.com/macq/spec2deb

I have yet to find the time to try it out, but if it works as described it would allow to take a RPM spec file from which it generates automatically the various debian style packaging files. I guess the generated files will likely need further tweaking (for example the names of the dependencies) but it should still make the work easier.

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hunter0one · Today 04:02:08

Great. I just looked at another debian package folder to try to understand it. I still have a lot of questions though. Can Devuan users contribute to Debian as a whole (in other words, can their package wind up in Debian, since otherwise Devaun doesnt accept new packages)? Are you supposed to use Ceres?

I pulled out my Daedulus DVD.

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golinux · Today 05:24:20

hunter0one . . . Welcome to Devuan! You might find this documentation a good place to start:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … ngGuide.md
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … tobuild.md

Anubis is a pain but those bots!

greenjeans · Today 12:25:56

Anubis is a pain

That's like the understatement of the year. I just close any link instantly where that pops up.

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