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#76 2023-05-11 21:22:34

Ion
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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

Ion wrote:

and the netinstall choice seems logical for a web server (that doesn't need a desktop environment).

Except there's a server ISO image…
Well, indeed, I saw the CD2, 3 and 4 and not knowing if this was only for the desktop ISO or for the server ISO too, I thought, well, the netinstall certainly doesn't need those and I went for the netinstall (and that forgot about that).
And now, seeing the size of the desktop ISO, I realize those CD2, 3 and 4 are not for the desktop.
So, I'll try the server ISO and see what will happen.
Edition: I've tried and it installed correctly but then, I can't use apt, there must be some problem with the repository, I'll look at that later, I must sleep now…
Bye.

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#77 2023-05-13 09:33:11

aitor
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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

Ion wrote:

Edition: I've tried and it installed correctly but then, I can't use apt, there must be some problem with the repository.

If it turns out that I'm updating the repo in the meantime, it won't work correctly throughout the update process and you have to wait for a period of time before trying again.

Did you install the server iso? If so, I recommend you to beep up the wired device using ifupdown and install simple-netaid-cdk afterwards, that is the ncurses interface for simple-netaid. But don't forget to add yourself to the netaid group in order to get ubus working in simple-netaid. In doing so, you'll be able to make use of some networking tools such as wpasupplicant, ifupdown, ip, etc, without root permissions. In summary, all you need to do is:

# ifup eth0
# apt-get update
# apt-get install simple-netaid-cdk
# usermod -aG netaid $USER

Then reboot the system and run simple-netaid-cdk as a regular user.

Pay attention to your /etc/network/interfaces.


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#78 2023-05-14 01:07:26

Ion
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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

aitor wrote:

Did you install the server iso?

Yes.

aitor wrote:

If so, I recommend you to beep up the wired device using ifupdown

How is it that with the regular ISO the systems connects automatically and with the server ISO, it doesn't?

aitor wrote:

and install simple-netaid-cdk afterwards, that is the ncurses interface for simple-netaid. But don't forget to add yourself to the netaid group in order to get ubus working in simple-netaid. In doing so, you'll be able to make use of some networking tools such as wpasupplicant, ifupdown, ip, etc, without root permissions.

I prefer to set my server with root and when it's production ready, tie it to the domain name and then use root permission only if necessary.
Also, I prefer to learn by doing my own BASh starting-script. Why not re-inventing the wheels when it helps having a better understanding of the wheels you're using?
I've reinstall the server ISO, it looks like all works fine. Next step is to configure it.
By the way, for each installation I made, didn't check the “Console productivity” task in the installation, what does it contains?

aitor wrote:

Pay attention to your /etc/network/interfaces.

I forgot about that, I'll do it while configuring.

Last edited by Ion (2023-05-14 05:34:21)


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#79 2023-05-14 13:27:29

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

Ion wrote:

How is it that with the regular ISO the systems connects automatically and with the server ISO, it doesn't?

Other images of gnuinos contain snetaid. The server iso doesn't. On the other hand, devuan images perhaps provide additional stanzas in /etc/network/inerfaces that automatically connect the system to the network as soon as the ethernet wire is plugged in. But these stanzas involve a boot delay if wired connection unppluged. Simple-netaid fixes this drawback without the need of other tools like ifplugd or netplugd.

Ion wrote:

I prefer to set my server with root and when it's production ready, tie it to the domain name and then use root permission only if necessary.
Also, I prefer to learn by doing my own BASh starting-script. Why not re-inventing the wheels when it helps having a better understanding of the wheels you're using?

That's good smile

Ion wrote:

By the way, for each installation I made, didn't check the “Console productivity” task in the installation, what does it contains?

According to its description in debian/control:   "This task installs the console-based tools available in Devuan minimal live. It includes a variety of utilities for system administration, clients for Internet protocols, programs for personal productivity and multimedia, games, and specific tools for blind users.".

The package task-console-productivity just recommends a set of packages listed in debian/control: dialog, zsh, entr, gddrescue, gdisk, htop, iftop, iotop, iw, mtr-tiny, multitail, ncdu, parted, pciutils, psmisc, sudo, time, wavemon, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant, etc. Have a look at the control file for further info.


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#80 2023-05-15 11:07:08

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

Ion wrote:

By the way, for each installation I made, didn't check the “Console productivity” task in the installation, what does it contains?

Hello. Check this list

https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devu … l-live.txt

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#81 2023-05-20 13:44:51

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

I am using the openbox version and I am really satisfied with it. I would like to thank you for your efforts and for providing us a minimal, solid and ethical operating system.
Some issues and questions I have are:
1) I have made the installation using the live installer but selecting disk encryption failed, is this a known bug?
2) Is there any way to enable backports?
3) If you planning to have a more recent version of Icecat there is "Debian packaging for GNU IceCat "  which as of today has the latest version. Maybe it will work for gnuinos?

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#82 2023-05-23 18:12:44

aitor
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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

nparafe wrote:

I am using the openbox version and I am really satisfied with it. I would like to thank you for your efforts and for providing us a minimal, solid and ethical operating system.

You're welcome smile

Some issues and questions I have are:
1) I have made the installation using the live installer but selecting disk encryption failed, is this a known bug?

First of all, sorry for the delay...

No, it's not a known bug. Really, I've never done a disk encryption with d-i, and it's time to give it a try. Did you try only with gnuinos chimaera, or did you experience the same issue with the images of gnuinos daedalus on the other hand?

2) Is there any way to enable backports?

Backport don't exist so far. I'll consider to include them in the next stable release (daedalus). Thanks for the suggestion.

3) If you planning to have a more recent version of Icecat there is "Debian packaging for GNU IceCat "  which as of today has the latest version. Maybe it will work for gnuinos?

Thanks for the link, but Icecat 102.11.0 is available in daedalus since last thursday:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/

I also updated linux-libre to version 6.1.28 and the preview images of daedalus:

https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/daedalus/live/


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#83 2023-05-24 07:20:01

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

Thanks for the info.
I am interested in the openbox version mainly. Are there any plans for an openbox live iso for daedalus?

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#84 2023-05-24 19:22:50

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

nparafe wrote:

Are there any plans for an openbox live iso for daedalus?

Yes, of course. The isos still don't exit because they require more time. I'll let you know.


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#85 2023-05-25 20:04:16

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

prospero wrote:
zapper wrote:

I always disable touchpad on all my thinkpads if a trackpoint is available

Are you referring to Gnuinos or to Hyperbola? As much as I will celebrate the day HyperbolaBSD is released, this thread is about Gnuinos.

Did a bot erase my reply? geez....

I said both and now I don't see the reply...

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#86 2023-05-26 00:26:46

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Re: GNUinOS - Libre

aitor wrote:

Solved!

It's working in x86 as well smile

This is really good news for 32-bit users!

I am still to try the last 64-bit Daedalus Xfce live ISO. All is well on Chimaera, using Linux-libre 6.1.

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