Google in trouble again

LU344928 · 2022-10-29 04:00:51

Incidentally, some may not know about this new search engine. It seems to me better than Ducky, YMMV, and when it comes to delivering uncensored news and reports it may even compete with Yandex, though I realise the latter's popularity may have waned somewhat due to current events.

THE FREESPOKE STORY
We exist because the search results you’re looking for shouldn’t be buried on page 6, if they’re allowed to appear at all.
Google, Amazon, and Facebook have too much power over the information we see. We can hardly search, buy a product, or send a message without their influence. Unfortunately, we’re seeing the world as they want us to see it, not the way it actually is.
freespoke.com

Ogis1975 · 2022-10-29 11:01:01

Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-10-29 13:01:40

I have to say that this article makes me like Google more:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/free- … buries-gop

@OP: I find your links to far-right propaganda websites disturbing.

User479 · 2022-10-29 15:25:17

LU344928 wrote:

freespoke.com

Requires javascript. No thanks!

aluma · 2022-10-29 20:24:09

Ogis1975 wrote:

Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.

To see Magadan or Vorkuta or Bucha with your own eyes today, and all Marxism will come off like a husk ...

sgage · 2022-10-29 21:16:30

aluma wrote:

Ogis1975 wrote:
Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.
To see Magadan or Vorkuta or Bucha with your own eyes today, and all Marxism will come off like a husk ...

???

LU344928 · 2022-10-30 07:35:56

Ogis1975 wrote:

Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.

Oh I know, but Yandex can be a bit of a pita sometimes as after 4 or 5 searches I have to prove I'm not a robot. Probably only a temporary measure but still.

LU344928 · 2022-10-30 07:49:27

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I have to say that this article makes me like Google more:
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/free- … buries-gop
@OP: I find your links to far-right propaganda websites disturbing.

A search engine should not decide what we see. It should display everything and let us decide.

This was posted in the book thread some months ago. Re-posting as a case in point.

And I'm not far right. I'm Dem Soc leaning.

Moreover, I find censorship by Big Tech (and Big Pharma) to be deplorable.

aluma · 2022-10-30 07:52:33

So far, mankind has not come up with anything more effective than a free market.
If you don't like Google, Facebook, etc., create an alternative.

For example, there is the Iridium browser, created on the basis of chromium. The creators are promoting the Qwant search engine. In the latest release, they even made a warning line that appears at the top of the page when accessing Google, which must be manually closed.

And all sorts of "independent researchers" usually end their "discoveries" with the phrase "give me money!"

Camtaf · 2022-10-30 09:36:02

All the 'Free' search engines are funded by companies promoting their products, it's a kind of advertising, we all know that, but it can be annoying when you are looking for 'genuine' information; but what's the alternative? I'll use different search engines if I'm looking for something really specific, & I'll always get different results - you pays yer money for what you get.....

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-10-30 11:15:58

LU344928 wrote:

I'm not far right. I'm Dem Soc leaning

Hmm, my apologies. But why the links to Murdoch's media empire? Seems a bit weird. Not that it matters.

aluma wrote:

So far, mankind has not come up with anything more effective than a free market.

And that's why our species is doomed.

User479 · 2022-10-30 13:02:22

LU344928 wrote:

A search engine should not decide what we see. It should display everything and let us decide.

But the whole point of the search engine is to rank the results in some way, isn't it?

Of course, there are some wingnuts that actually want their sites omitted from search engines so they have something to scream about.
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/07/ari … e-indexed/

aluma · 2022-10-30 19:20:12

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

aluma wrote:
So far, mankind has not come up with anything more effective than a free market.
And that's why our species is doomed.

Why?
Deviations from the norm ( like the candidate site scandal) are the key to evolution.
Let's get used to everything...

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-10-30 19:22:14

aluma wrote:

Why?

The capitalist mode of production is predicated on the growth which is destroying our planet. IMO.

But this is off topic here :-)

aluma · 2022-10-30 19:26:46

OK.
With best regards.

golinux · 2022-10-30 20:26:48

The human mode of production is equally at fault. This is the solution.

(also off-topic)

xinomilo · 2022-10-31 10:49:34

LU344928 wrote:

freespoke.com

right, did you check page source? well : "Some search results derived from Microsoft. Privacy Policy"

so, they're just using Bing (=M$) which is more relaxed to "resellers" and collects same amount of data as google.

just use a metasearch like searx, or yacy search engine or some other one.. lots of search/metasearch engines around.

yeti · 2022-10-31 14:00:35

golinux wrote:

This is the solution.

I dare to applaud.

Devarch · 2022-10-31 21:46:43

The best is to use many search enginees at once (except google )

GlennW · 2022-10-31 23:29:17

+1

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

aluma wrote:
Why?
The capitalist mode of production is predicated on the growth which is destroying our planet. IMO.
But this is off topic here :-)

it will require co-operation rather than domination... It should be interesting.

LU344928 · 2022-11-02 11:45:30

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

LU344928 wrote:
I'm not far right. I'm Dem Soc leaning
Hmm, my apologies.

No sweat.

But why the links to Murdoch's media empire? Seems a bit weird. Not that it matters.

No it doesn't matter. All the corporate media networks ... (also off-topic)

LU344928 · 2022-11-02 11:49:43

User479 wrote:

LU344928 wrote:
A search engine should not decide what we see. It should display everything and let us decide.
But the whole point of the search engine is to rank the results in some way, isn't it?

That's the thing. Google ranks sites, in many areas, not according to relevance or popularity but according to its policy. At least, that's my understanding...

LU344928 · 2022-11-02 11:51:14

xinomilo wrote:

LU344928 wrote:
freespoke.com
right, did you check page source? well : "Some search results derived from Microsoft. Privacy Policy"
so, they're just using Bing (=M$) which is more relaxed to "resellers" and collects same amount of data as google.

Never used Bing, tbh.

blackhole · 2022-11-02 12:20:44

DuckDuckGo was marketed by Wienberg as being a "privacy" focused search engine - it turned out to be no different to the worst.

There is Microsoft collusion (conclusively proven facilitation of MS trackers, hosting on Azure and github, scraping of bing search) and the same political bias/censorship as other "Big Tech" based search engines. To cap it all, it's actually proprietary software. Using DuckDuckGo with the expectation of any privacy is what amounts to either "head in sand" naivety or willful ignorance.

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Ogis1975 · 2022-11-02 12:47:47

aluma wrote:

Ogis1975 wrote:
Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.
To see Magadan or Vorkuta or Bucha with your own eyes today, and all Marxism will come off like a husk ...

You mean My Lai Massacre, Operation Speedy Express, War on Terror, War in Afghanistan, Iraq War etc? If not, go away Ukrainian nazi bastard!

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