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#26 2021-02-25 00:54:26

zapper
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

MLEvD wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

MLEvD, I hope you have better luck. Are you sure you need pulseaudio? Maybe plain alsa would behave better.

I'm doing sychronised multi-room audio with asus eee pc as receiver boxes. Why not rpi? Because eee pc have screens and input attached, and are dust proof, have cases, are portable (own battery!). In addition to music. They also provide wifi, a digital picture frame/show, and anything else you might do with an 800x600 screen.

I read back at the start that one must use pulse or sndio for this avahi magic, alsa is a one horse town. Hopefully I am wrong?

Hack: I *could* just hack the scripts to enforce defaults and policies, but this is something clearly broken compared to the last version of devuan or the contemporary version of debian, so it's possibly an indication of some wider improvement opportunity in the development sphere. It's a very long time since I was a pro tester so forgive my antiquated language please!

Probably, its a debian issue inflicted on devuan.

Though, pulseaudio imo sucks.

Sndio is the best, if you have alsa-sndio and aucatctl installed. smile

Otherwise, use alsa

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#27 2021-02-25 14:38:00

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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

Fun fact: the GNOME desktop in Debian bullseye no longer needs PulseAudio at all. PipeWire is the future...


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#28 2021-02-26 02:37:26

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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Fun fact: the GNOME desktop in Debian bullseye no longer needs PulseAudio at all. PipeWire is the future...

Head_on_a_Stick, what is your opinion of PipeWire? I don't know anything about it, or if there are good reasons to dislike it or its architecture in the same vein as PulseAudio.


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#29 2021-02-26 02:53:55

golinux
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

IIRC it's linked to wayland and not friendly to X11.  There was some discussion perhaps here recently.  In the meantime from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PipeWire

"One of the initial goals was to improve handling of video on Linux the same way PulseAudio improved handling of audio"

That about says everything . . .

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#30 2021-02-26 06:06:47

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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

bgstack15 wrote:

what is your opinion of PipeWire?

I quite like it because it provides a unified management stream for both audio and video under Wayland and it's 100% ABI compatible with both Jack and PulseAudio. But then I also like GNOME and Wayland so...


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#31 2021-03-12 09:48:11

MLEvD
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

Hi again, I've found two things from playing with the default.pa file

Firstly, no configuration allows one to save a user preference for a network sink. RTP multicast is retainable, like local sound cards, but not even my precious lmde saves a network card.

Secondly, default.pa has nothing to do with hardware profile. This is just good old fashioned not being saved.
Is it the case that mate have stopped supporting sysv? Can't reproduce the problem under any systemd system, or under an older sysv system.

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#32 2021-03-12 16:19:36

MLEvD
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

More news, Spent all day installing antix. Same versions of sysv, pulse, mate-media as Beowulf.

Antix seems to do better than all the others. Not only does it save hardware profiles (the Beowulf Bug), it also saves your output choices even if they are on a networked device.

Somewhere under the hood of antix lies the answer perhaps? If would be great to be better than debian and lmde at doing pulseaudio with mate-media settings persistence.

Antix is interesting, but I'd still rather have devuan.

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#33 2021-03-13 03:44:46

zapper
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

Let's see, pipewire or pulseaudio which is worse...

How about neither...

Since they both are redhat garbage software.

I tire of the corporate ideal to eff things up that work well just to make people depend on software that is bloated and sux...

Smh...  greed does wonders... or horrors if you prefer.

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#34 2021-04-08 05:00:38

mirrortokyo
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Re: PulseAudio always resets to mute

I registered here to just to report on this issue (long time Devuan user).

Thanks to this thread I solved the issue for myself and filed a bug report:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=986211

My solution was to do:

pacmd list-cards

(program pacmd is in package pulseaudio-utils)

to find the actual output that I wanted to use (in my case, analogue stereo output on a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS)

then at the end of /etc/pulse/default.pa I put:

# set-card-profile name-of-card-without-angle-brackets name-of-profile-without-trailing-colon
set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-0000_03_06.0 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-mono

I also recommend installing the package pavucontrol and using the command pavucontrol if something gets accidentally muted.

This seems to be a problem of lack of documentation on setting the default audio profile.

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