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I've read in archlinux subreddit that it has solved archlinux's many problems. That's why they adopted it. In the most upvoted answer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comm … e_systemd/
So is it like better of the two devils situation here? I actually like sysvinit better, but let's not call a spade a spade, is systemd that bad?
Everything is gone... No desktop. I installed them back, now login loop. Can't login to my user. What to do now?
I have atom D525 CPU NAS. It used to have jellyfin installed while on devuan 4. I think it was standalone jellyfin install, not flatpak. But it was working perfectly, the playback on movies was not slow or anything. It was good enough. But on devuan 5 I installed it as a flatpak. It's extremely slow on media playback. Like really slow. Mind you when I connect to this machine via sftp and play videos with mpv it's extremely fast. How to solve this? It keeps stopping every 3 seconds, can't watch anything at all.
UPDATE: I removed flatpak version and installed version for debian bookworm instead. I still have problems but it seems it's only problematic for H265 videos, H264's work fine.
Do I need to add it back to it's user group?
Only for firefox this works. No other apps work on wayland gnome. This works for firefox:
Add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 into /etc/environment. This way only firefox will work. Chromium, libreoffice, nothing else will work.Also, I tried to check if my drivers were working on wayland, I write inxi -G on terminal, it doesn't output anything.. Also some CLI apps broke aswell.
My specs are:
Intel i5 4460
AMD RX580
16GB DDR3 RAM
Anyway still no wayland in slim.
Slim doesn't support wayland sessions...
Well I used the script, the script said select slim so I did. Hmm ok, I tried to change to GDM3 but system froze when trying to open gdm3 instead. I tried with sudo service gdm3 start, it froze.
I migrated from debian to devuan today, as you released devuan 5.0 stable, it works however with the guy's script. Anyway still no wayland in slim. I select gnome option, no wayland. Other options are gnome on xorg so...
I got a RX580, I installed the AMD drivers too, by adding non-free-firmware. When I inxi -G I see amdgpu drivers. So there is the wayland option, but when you open a browser, it looks like it's going to open, but nothing happens. Xorg works fine.
I am trying to migrate from bookworm the daedalus actually, which it didn't work.
Ok Marjorie, I got one question. Does that debian to devuan thing still working: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … owulf.html
I tried it a few days ago but couldn't remove systemd at all. I got a debian system, and I want to try migrating to devuan. But I couldn't on the VM.
Just curious why none helped me yet? If having a working wayland gnome isn't devs target, then it is ok for me. No worries. I will use xorg then.
What I did so far today: I uncommented the WaylandEnable=true line. Also, I commented the lines at /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules, which were these lines:
LABEL="gdm_prefer_xorg"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon PreferredDisplayServer xorg"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_disable_wayland"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon WaylandEnable false"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_end"
Wayland supposedly works(!) but when I click firefox, it seems to be loading but it won't open, and finally will shutdown later. I tried to remove that gdm.rules file, still the same thing.
I also need this, I am running gnome with nvidia 525 driver. I uncommented the WaylandEnable=true line. Also, I commented the lines at /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules, which were these lines:
LABEL="gdm_prefer_xorg"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon PreferredDisplayServer xorg"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_disable_wayland"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon WaylandEnable false"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_end"
Wayland supposedly works(!) but when I click firefox, it seems to be loading but it won't open, and finally will shutdown later.
I uncommented the /etc/gdm3/custom.conf WaylandEnable thing, also 61-gdm.rules thing in /usr/blahblah, it simply doesn't exist there. So it must work with wayland right? But no it doesn't work. I use nvidia 525 driver.
It worked when I applied the same things with debian 12. By the way, is nvidia-persistenced important? It doesn't work in devuan properly. I assume it has hard dependency to systemd.
It gives this error. Otherwise driver works perfectly:
Starting NVIDIA Persistence Daemon
nvidia-persistenced failed to initialize. Check syslog for more details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript nvidia-persistenced, action "start" failed.
dpkg: nvidia-persistenced paketi işlenirken sorun yaşandı (--configure):
nvidia-persistenced paketi post-installation betiği kuruldu alt süreci 1 hatalı çıkış kodu ile sona erdi
Usually that's an errant program/service that isn't listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.
Well I am sitting at a cafe for example, I need to go ASAP. I don't wanna wait for some stupid service. How is there not a big backlash to systemd devs for this? I don't get it.
Do we still hate systemd in 2023? Maybe they have fixed all those things for all those years, didn't they?
You know that sometimes happens that prompts you to wait 3 mins before shutting down the pc for absolutely no reason. Why does it still exists? If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist? This is the sole reason I choose devuan when I can. "But you can close that with some journalctl blah blah command" Fuck that I don't wanna invent some stuff for this shit. I am a noob user I wanna keep it that way. I don't wanna learn commands I will only use once in my life.
You know systemd, a USB was put in? Waiting for some stupid shit (1 min 30 seconds/infinite). I frequently connect to NFS, sometimes server gets broken. Then I click reboot, but it won't reboot because of systemd, and this happens on my debian system. Does it also happen with devuan? I am so sick of this...
recklessswing wrote:I FUCKING DID IT!!! I GOT INTO THE BIOS AND CHANGED BOOT ORDER HECK YESS!! But didn't install to 1GB disk, it's probably die in a year anyway. NAND FLASH what could I expect? So I installed devuan into an SSD in another pc, then put it inside.
Congrats, friend :-)
Sadly couldn't make it under 1 GB. Alpine linux is too alien to me. I'll just use an SSD.
I FUCKING DID IT!!! I GOT INTO THE BIOS AND CHANGED BOOT ORDER HECK YESS!! But didn't install to 1GB disk, it's probably die in a year anyway. NAND FLASH what could I expect? So I installed devuan into an SSD in another pc, then put it inside.
I am talking about netinstall. I got a very spesific device, it has a 1GB builtin USB disk. It's an hassle to remove. What if I just install netinstall, no GUI, nothing? How much space will it take?
Why in the hell netinstall doesn't enable this? This is so primitive. Why not just enable hot plug automatically in netinstall, are we living in 90's? Please tell me.. Just because I unplugged the ethernet cable now I just need to restart it to make networking work again.. Sigh.
The default desktop theme is installed with desktop-base but all the old themes from grub to the desktop are available in the repos. You can also get all the pieces at:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics
If you need help finding where to put them just holler . . .
That git link is broken. Can't download anything from there. Btw, wasn't there a dark mode for these themes? And what about pc's that don't currently use devuan? I run debian on one of my laptops and I want this theme pls.
I think that's the clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme package. EDIT: and cinnabar-icon-theme.
I found it but after a lot of googling. Wow. This shouldn't be this hard man.
What about icon themes and window options? Where to find those too?