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#1 2023-07-18 21:13:58

recklessswing
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From: Türkiye
Registered: 2020-12-18
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Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

You know that sometimes happens that prompts you to wait 3 mins before shutting down the pc for absolutely no reason. Why does it still exists? If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist? This is the sole reason I choose devuan when I can. "But you can close that with some journalctl blah blah command" Fuck that I don't wanna invent some stuff for this shit. I am a noob user I wanna keep it that way. I don't wanna learn commands I will only use once in my life.

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#2 2023-07-19 00:54:00

ab
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Registered: 2023-07-19
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Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

Usually that's an errant program/service that isn't listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.

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#3 2023-07-19 02:22:37

Altoid
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Registered: 2017-05-07
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Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

Hello:

recklessswing wrote:

If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist?

Is that a question to ask here, at Dev1?
Seeing that there is no systemd in Devuan, you may want to consider asking that question here.

recklessswing wrote:

... the sole reason I choose devuan when I can.

If that is your sole reason for your choosing Devuan, I think you have a lot of reading up to do.

Best,

A.

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#4 2023-07-29 21:55:27

recklessswing
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From: Türkiye
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Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

ab wrote:

Usually that's an errant program/service that isn't listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.

Well I am sitting at a cafe for example, I need to go ASAP. I don't wanna wait for some stupid service. How is there not a big backlash to systemd devs for this? I don't get it.

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#5 2023-07-31 11:14:44

stopAI
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Registered: 2023-04-04
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Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

recklessswing wrote:

I don't get it.

Because systemd is malware.....

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#6 2023-08-31 05:47:15

czeekaj
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Registered: 2019-06-12
Posts: 154  

Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem

use reboot. Then hit the power button when it boots back up.
It's near instant.

We would probably need to redo the way shutdown passes halt. Play with devuan jessie. See if you can see what the heck is going on that changed between devuan and debian at the start of the fork. There might be a clue what the heck is going on there.

Last edited by czeekaj (2023-08-31 05:49:03)

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