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I use myself a mix of the two approaches: a lot of secuential scripts for installing and configuring some pieces and unpacking tar files for some other configurations. I use the second tecnique for some graphical environments that I know of fully configure only throughout a GUI (KDE mainly).
I configure the first user of the box and then modify the scripts to add new users using /etc/skel. See man adduser
no sound
No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
Do you have PulseAudio installed?
If not, do you use apulse instead?; if so, you ned to launch your binary with apulse binary
I'm not sure forcing the install is feasible. The packages are stopping the system until the broken packages are removed.
I don't know if my experience is convenient to do in your case, but I will explain it:
In a few boxes with Devuan Beowulf 64 bits I used a --force-all to install a deb file for an old printer. All the package management programs complained from this point on about not met dependencies. I edited by hand the file /var/lib/dpkg/status and removed the claimed dependencies. So far, so good.
Searched dconf-editor for "save" and there's no corresponding setting.
May be under org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser
Some of us like to live on the edge...
In all your systems? Wow
fsmithred wrote:... installer includes Recommends by default.
Not so 'bare-bones' as I expected a net-install to be.
maybe it would be easier to make a list of the Recommends included in the net-install and a script to purge them when the installation is finished
Devuan is absolutely hackable. We all like this. The hack from fsmithred is a good example. Thank you.
I always use Expert install from net-install. My hack is not configure package manager and use my own scripts on first log in the installed system.
Enjoy your own hack
those of us on help-desk...
I've been there, I understand you.
Seems no one reads the Release Notes anymore
Please, don't think so. A lot of people do read this and much more. Keep up!
The answer is very different if we talk about servers or desktops.
I have no server now with Devuan, but I have been using Debian in servers for years. Uptime is very high (years) if I don't update kernel and high (months) if I do. Main issue is power, I use professional UPS.
For desktops, I usually power them down when I go to sleep.
You can also use KDE without pulseaudio. Screenshots here was taken on a Beowulf 64 bits box with KDE.
I use KDE with VLC sound engine. By default, KDE try to use pulseaudio, but pure ALSA is also available in GUI configuration.
Go to K, Preferences, System Preferences, Hardware, Audio and Video. You may need to check Show advanced devices: (click to full size):
If you (like me) dont have pulseaudio installed, clicking the Test button when pulse is selected will show an error on console:
main audio output error: no suitable audio output module
main decoder error: failed to create audio output
vlcpulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection failure: Connection refused
Dragging and dropping or with the Prefer button, put the option Default to first position:
Then, Apply Device List to all the categories (YMMV).
Now, you can listen audio even on Dolphin:
How about this for the index page??
Freedom Hacks
Explore workarounds to reverse/repair unwanted upstream decisions
I like it.
Devuan systemd dependency workarounds ... Suggestions welcome.
systemd workarounds
So... fixed?
Everybody calm
it is also true that now many Canonical devs are also Debian devs, them were probably recruited from Canonical which is good if that would not harm Debian...
I've hear that years ago, from the very mouth of a few Debian developers I talked with. IMHO is it again the fight between people that look for the good and people that look for the money. In an ideal world, they should be balanced, but in our world they are not.
Thanks for reading!
I find your opinion very interesting.
Devuan has generated a considerable amount of desktop distros but very few server distros.
May be because Devuan itself is good enough for servers.
Can anybody help me?
Please share whit us your dmesg after inserting USB device and lsusb
Once I have all the required packages in the 1 directory, then, I can execute the apt-get -o dir::cache::archives="/disc/" dist-upgrade command with "/disc/" being replaced by MY directory location.
Excelent! Thanks for sharing.
After the packages have been uninstalled/removed, can I, then, copy the previously downloaded non-dmo .deb files into "/var/cache/apt/archives/" before executing apt-get dist-upgrade with the Laptop not connected to the Internet from the chroot environment?
I use this method again and again. But always with an active internet conexion and no chroot. I think that the package manager may need the conexion to know which packages is going to get. If the package is already in /var/cache/apt/archives/ it just skip the download.
Sheesh, commercial vendors and their overengineering.
This comment could lead us to another interesting thread. I think that it is somehow related with the systemd issue. It is all about "proprietary open source" software that I heard in this forum.
I did so and now .....perfect, Pedro! No more error messages from Brother drivers. Thanks a lot.
I'm glad to know. Happy to help
Changing to ATTR now brings again one error message less than before:
[ 5.028777] udevd[461]: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}' in /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-libsane-type1-inst.rules:14
[ 5.028904] udevd[461]: invalid rule '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-libsane-type1-inst.rules:14'
[ 5.073976] udevd[461]: starting eudev-3.2.7
Time to change syntax in 60-brother-libsane-type1-inst.rules too.
udevd[459]: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}' in /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules:9
IMHO, Brother has not changed the syntax of these files:
http://www.planet-libre.org/index.php?post_id=10937
i.e.: change 'SYSFS' by 'ATTR'. Could you try?
I know that you know, but may be some newbie is reading this: do a backup before edit the files!
Thanks for the recherche, Pedro.
Not really a recherche. I've spend my time in support Brother pages because I have a bunch of Brother devices.
However Brother printers and scanners work perfect.
Indeed. That is the very reason of buying again. Remember: "put your money where your mouth is".
[ 5.121437] udevd[459]: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}' in /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules:9
[ 5.121559] udevd[459]: invalid rule '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-brscan4-libsane-type1.rules:9'
[ 5.122021] udevd[459]: unknown key 'SYSFS{idVendor}' in /etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-libsane-type1-inst.rules:14
[ 5.122138] udevd[459]: invalid rule '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-brother-libsane-type1-inst.rules:14'
Could you quote here these two offending files?