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#1 Re: Installation » devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso installation freezes » Yesterday 16:57:40

@fsmithred: never tried this yet because I wanted to used luks2. Is the grub as shipped with Daedalus now able to decipher luks2?

#2 Re: Installation » devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso installation freezes » Yesterday 15:45:17

Yes, the traditional setup requires an unencrypted /boot partition. I use that setup. In the encrypted partition I do setup a LVM with 2 logical devices for / and swap. /home always is on a separate device, except for in a VM. 

There is no need for special "early short command line detour for device mapping". You go through the installer step by step, and everything thats needed is prepared, no matter if legacy or efi installs.

With Arch Linux I could get away without that, but that requires a grub that can decipher luks2 and I think some tweaks inside of systemd.

#3 Re: Installation » devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso installation freezes » Yesterday 11:11:37

Just my two cents: FDE works fine when pre-partitioning with a GParted Live and manual partitioning in the installer. Valid all along from ASCII to Daedalus.

#4 Re: Installation » devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso installation freezes » Yesterday 10:01:16

You might consider that Chimaera even is too old for that laptop. Chimaera is oldstable anyhow, Daedalus is stable.

#5 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] usrmerge is a crock of crap, catastrophic » 2024-04-25 20:59:16

Just to make you fully aware: Devuan is nothing but a Debian deriviate. It makes sure you have init freedom, i.e. you can simply use the same kind of routines that did exist before Jessie and systemd introduction, and that you are NOT forced to use systemd. Inits supported like sysvinit, openrc, runit, ... All the rest of the SW is Debian, like this usrmerge topic. Too much to convert back by the small Devuan team.

I am absolutely happy that I have found Devuan, and that I can use the same kind of procedures to encrypt and decrypt my installations as used back in Etch, Lenny, Squeeze, Wheezy.

Make sure you understand who is responsible for what ... you are wasting your and our time here.

#8 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update » 2024-04-24 18:40:25

No, running the usrmerge installation will become mandatory with Debian 13/Devuan 6. There is NO way to avoid this. Lots of fighting and bitching, but no help, its a Debian project decision, and they are pulling all roots for not merging now during development.

Running with Daedalus on my workstation, I have set up two VMs with Excalibur based on Daedalus cli installations about 6 months ago. My first step before changing the sources to Excalibur was to run usrmerge as it is recommended now in the documentation. And both of them work well.

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LXQt user shutdown » 2024-04-23 16:25:19

Well, I am working with LightDM/Mate re. Cinnamon. I myself had some trouble getting ASCII to work with consolekit, the elogind stuff fixed that. And that is what I copied into my reply.

When I do an apt list on my Daedalus I get:

# apt list libpolkit*
Auflistung… Fertig
libpolkit-agent-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-agent-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-agent-1-0/stable,now 122-3devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-agent-1-0/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-agent-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-agent-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-1-0/stable,stable,now 122-3devuan1 all  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-gobject-1-dev/stable,stable 122-3devuan1 all
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0-dbgsym/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0/stable,now 122-3devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev/stable 122-3devuan1 i386
libpolkit-qt5-1-1/stable,now 0.114.0-2 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-qt5-1-1/stable 0.114.0-2 i386
libpolkit-qt5-1-dev/stable 0.114.0-2 amd64
libpolkit-qt5-1-dev/stable 0.114.0-2 i386

Looks like the backend stuff is gone, don't know when, and apt list *backend* confirmed that.

Give the first part a try, it should replace the consolekit stuff.

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LXQt user shutdown » 2024-04-23 11:14:40

You may have more luck when installing

# apt install libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 

This should remove the consolekit packages and install elogind stuff instead. And that should work.

#11 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update » 2024-04-22 20:43:30

The solution is to wait for the solution ..... Have you raised a bug report? It may be fixed in the future.

The solution will come some day.

#12 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update » 2024-04-22 19:47:00

Well, if you want a stable system with minimum hasle stay with Daedalus.

If you are ready for the unexpected, try Excalibur or Testing, and for the often broken, try Ceres or Unstable. Freshly updated/developed packages first land in Unstable, when they have sort of proven to generally work, they may be forwarded to Testing.

Testing some day becomes Stable, but currently this is about 2 years to go.

You only should use Testing if you are ready to accept uneven ground and if you are willing to contribute to this phase, or if you have a good reason to do so, i.e. you have so new hardware that its supported in Testing only. Something for the experienced user. And Unstable will be even rougher.

Just my two cents ...

#13 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Confusion with libcrypt.so.1 » 2024-04-11 21:27:08

Well apt policy did not show the 32 bit version. Give

# apt list libcrypt1 -a 

a try.

Normally the 32bit version cab be installed by:

# apt install libcrypt1:i386

#14 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Confusion with libcrypt.so.1 » 2024-04-11 17:57:53

I guess you are on amd64, a 64-bit system. Your application is a 32 bit application that requires a 32 bit library. You will need to enable i386 as architecture, if you haven't done so far, and then to install the 32 bit version of libcrypt1. Same procedure as for wine32.

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# apt update
# apt upgrade
# dpkg -print-foreign-architectures
# apt policy libcrypt1

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » system-config-printer » 2024-04-10 18:44:05

According to the help dialogue system-config-printer is an old RedHat development. Its a tool for cups.

I like it the way it is. I want it locked to avoid that any user can modify settings and then complain that the printer does not work. Its an admin tool.

I am not aware about any configuration option that allows to remove the root password. I am not familiar with MX Linux. Maybe they have used a policy to remove the need for a password entry? Have a look at /usr/share/polkit-1/actions (Debian path).

#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox Display Bugs and More » 2024-04-09 15:14:24

I am on Firefox 115.9.1 ESR on Daedalus too, and I can't complain about graphics or drawing errors. But I am not on github or substack.

Well, your OS is two releases back. Maybe your issues are related to some outdated libraries, don't know.

In any case you could update from Beowulf to Chimaera and in a second step from Chimaera to Daedalus. There is no reason why it is impossible. I have done as well upgrades as new installations on my end.

Anyhow, read the release notes and the upgrade instructions, make sure your Beowulf is up to date before starting the upgrade, and disable/remove all non-Devuan repos before you start the upgrade. On the top of this page is a link to Devuan.org. There you can track down the release notes and upgrade instructions.

#17 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Firefox and Firefox Nightly repos in Synaptic . . » 2024-04-06 19:26:54

To set some minds right in terms of relations between Debian and Devuan: The small Devuan team just replaces a minimum set of packages related to systemd by packages that support init freedom. The Devuan web page (accessible by a link on the top of this page) amongst other information also shows a list of banned packages. Only these are modified or replaced.

All the rest is a 1:1 copy of the Debian repo.

This is also true for Firefox. What isn't in the Debian repo can't be found in the Devuan repo, no matter if on cli e.g. by apt or in graphics mode e.g. by Synaptic.

#19 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] libhcrypto.so.4 in Devuan Daedalus? » 2024-04-05 18:14:25

This libhcrypto.so.4 has something to do with Heimdahl stuff. Maybe that's a hint ...

#21 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] USB floppy » 2024-03-28 15:57:25

Can't exactly remember what I did several months ago when reading in some W98SE floppies with an USB floppy drive.

Some ideas:

Make sure you are in the floppy group.
Install mtools and dosfstools.

Then reboot and give it another try.

#22 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] mtp-tool will not start » 2024-03-28 12:58:48

Try to install additionally gvfs-backend and gvfs-fuse. You may need to remove jmtpfs.

This should enable that you get you phone shown on the desktop. Worked for me.

#23 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] mtp-tool will not start » 2024-03-28 09:06:37

You should install fuse3. But you will have to remove jmtpfs, that conflicts with fuse3.

#24 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-26 19:01:40

At least with the VirtualBox you have to set the mode when configuring the VM. Per default its a legacy VM, only when efi is ticked you have to use efi mechanisms.

#25 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-24 09:23:31

Yes it can.

Size: my suggestion is 1024 MiB to avoid any issues with strange EFI bios implementations that would like to use the ESP as storage for firmware updates. Minimalists call this way too large. The size is an insurance against the unforeseen.

Filesystem: FAT32/vfat is a must.

If no other ESP is present, create a new one.

If there is an ESP in place already, no need to create a second one. It will not be overwritten or getting damaged. You need to make sure its added in the list of partitions as ESP to tell the installer to use it.

There is one stumbling stone though. Debian and Devuan and if I am not mistaken at least Ubuntu/Mint do add a generic directory into the ESP for their distributions. E.g. Stretch, Buster, Bullseye or Bookworm all add a directory called "debian". Older Devuan releases do the same. You see the problem?

If you want a dual boot for Chimaera and Daedalus you have to do some post processing, or only the later installation is bootable. The solution is to do another grub-install from the booted system with the option --bootloader-id=devuan4 as I am using it. Use efibootmgr to set the boot order as you like.

This rework is not to 100% update safe. I have been through grub updates that did re-establish the generic directory. So I had to redo my specific grub-install.

HTH,

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