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#1 Re: Installation » Upcoming Devuan install with full disk encryption - Tips & Advice? » Today 18:18:22
I am using the traditional "full disk"-encryption with luks, that leaves /boot unencrypted.
I am prepared to help if required.
#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xlibre-deb or xlibre-debian PART TWO » Yesterday 15:21:52
Can that please be the last off-topic post in this thread that's supposed to be about display managers that work with both X and Wayland?
You are right, the xlibre stuff is sort of off-topic here. Please can you move that to e.g. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7388?
#3 Desktop and Multimedia » xlibre-deb or xlibre-debian PART TWO » Yesterday 15:19:46
- rolfie
- Replies: 4
@greenjeans: you got it.
I thought the doc is wrong and corrected my entry according to a correct deb822 syntax as used by Debian/Devuan where "Suites" stands for the release names and "Components" for main contrib ..... These "corrections" caused the release file issues.
When using your version, apt update works and my VM is getting the latest xlibre update. With one exception: xserver-xlibre-video-amdgpu. That is fixed when I run an
apt -t excalibur-backports install xserver-xlibre-video-amdgpuUnfortunately, the VM is no more starting to the graphical display. I get a blinking cursor on a black screen, and a bar that might be something like a pattern from a text output where the pixels are not aligned. Same symptons I got with another test on Freia.
#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xlibre-deb or xlibre-debian? » Yesterday 09:30:26
Thats exactly what does not work for me.
#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xlibre-deb or xlibre-debian? » 2026-07-08 20:49:31
@fsmithred: sorry, the link to xlibre you posted yesterday is not working as expected. That page can be read but contains severe problems. The sources file is bad, Suits and Components is mixed up. And when I try to change my "working" sources to what is displayed there with corrections I get "no release file found".
What works forme is this older information:
Types: deb
URIs: https://xlibre-deb.github.io/devuan
Suites: excalibur
Components: main
Architectures: amd64
Signed-By: /etc/apt/keyrings/xlibre-deb.asc
Enabled: yesNo updates for a while but no errors on apt update.
Not working, meanwhile disabled again:
Types: deb
URIs: https://xlibre-debian.github.io/devuan
# Suites: excalibur
Suites: stable
Components: main
Architectures: amd64
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/NexusSfan.pgp
Enabled: no#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Missing AMD GPU Firmware, *ip_discovery.bin » 2026-07-08 20:34:48
Would be nice if you could post these console outputs in code tags, refer to the button labelled code in rectangular brackets above the editor window. Its better readable.
What I see is a discrepancy between the System Info and the real kernel version. I see you are on Excalibur, and you use xlibre instead of xorg.
dmesg says: "Optional firmware "amdgpu/raven_ip_discovery.bin" was not found" which I would read as not required but stops with error. In any case its not part of the amdgpu firmware package which I also have installed.
Also looked at the latest firmware package on kernel.org, there it is included. So it was added sometime between the Excalibur version and June this year. What you may try is to install the firmware-amd-graphics from backports, if there is any.
#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Missing AMD GPU Firmware, *ip_discovery.bin » 2026-07-08 19:49:21
It probably would make sense to show the output from
inxi -Fzxrto get some basic understanding what we are talking about.
inxi may need to be installed first of all.
BTW: I looked into my firmware folder and did not see any "raven_ip_discovery.bin" in there, being on Excalibur.
#8 Re: Installation » Which Excalibur install problems fixed by 6.1.1? » 2026-07-08 15:39:27
I can't recall any network failure during installations that was not due to operator error, i.e. mistyping IP numbers or similar. Anyhow, two nics is an unusual setup and maybe this has led to problems? I have only dealt with one nic on many installations.
AFAIK there is no way to skip modules for known nics, unlike this topic that you may only get ext2 and no ext3/4 when jumping over the "load extra modules" in expert mode.
#9 Re: Installation » Which Excalibur install problems fixed by 6.1.1? » 2026-07-07 15:27:00
- The installer did not activate the link for the Ethernet interface, so mirror, clock, etc. did not work while installing.
I would claim this is not an installer issue. If the network does not work its most likely an issue related to user input.
#10 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Why hasn't sysvinit been abandoned yet? » 2026-07-05 14:22:30
sysvinit just does its job. I have been using OpenRC when I started with Devuan on ASCII. I have moved back to sysvinit nowadays on new installations since I did not see any advantages as a user from using OpenRC.
#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to set system time? » 2026-07-03 11:21:47
As fas as I know it doesn't. (And I'm not sure, if this was changed with ntpsec?)
I does indirectly. When I shut down my PC the HW clock is updated. ntp and ntpsec are the same.
If NTP would be depending on the HW-clock, how should it work with devices (e.g. singleborad-computers) without any such?
I am pretty sure any device supporting a clock has a RTC on board.
#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to set system time? » 2026-07-02 19:27:02
Do you know if that sets OS time only, or hardware time too?
ntp sets the HW clock. The rest is job of the operating system.
In Linux its standard to set the HW re. the bios clock to UTC. During installation you configure your location and timezone, and the OS then generates the local time from that.
Windows per default is running on local time, i.e. the bios clock is set to local time. This creates 2h time shifts on a Linux/Windows dual boot system. The best fix is to set Windows to UTC.
#13 Re: Other Issues » Xorg devuan forks » 2026-06-29 17:39:10
i wonder, will the same mod be made to the xlibre packages?
There are xlibre packages that are especially made for Devuan.
#14 Hardware & System Configuration » Sporadic network failure on wakeup after hibernation » 2026-06-29 13:17:11
- rolfie
- Replies: 1
Excrypted Excalibur with Cinnamon DE, static wired network defined in /etc/network/interfaces, no network manager used.
With increasing frequency it looks like the network is no more available after hibernation. How can I easily reset the network w/o rebooting?
~$ inxi -Fxzr
System:
Kernel: 6.12.94+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.4.10 Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X570-PRO v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 5031
date: 01/13/2025
CPU:
Info: 12-core model: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3+
rev: 2 cache: L1: 768 KiB L2: 6 MiB L3: 64 MiB
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500/5500M /
Pro 5500M] vendor: Sapphire driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-1
bus-ID: 0c:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
resolution: 2560x1440~60Hz
Network:
Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel
port: f000 bus-ID: 06:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 183.11 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
dev: /dev/dm-2 mapped: vg--exc--sys-2_swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0 C mobo: 43.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 47.0 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
Packages: 1837
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/signal-desktop-keyring.gpg] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources
1: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ excalibur excalibur-security excalibur-updates excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Info:
Memory: total: 64 GiB note: est. available: 62.71 GiB used: 5.56 GiB (8.9%)
Processes: 590 Uptime: 4h 21m Init: SysVinit runlevel: 2
Compilers: gcc: 14.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.37 inxi: 3.3.38#15 Re: Documentation » Trying to create a shared directory using only manpages as helpsystem. » 2026-06-24 12:20:55
What I miss in the man pages are examples for at least standard applications. manpages usually just list the options.
#16 Desktop and Multimedia » No move to trash can on symbolic linked folders » 2026-06-22 15:48:57
- rolfie
- Replies: 1
System: luks encrypted Excalibur on sysvinit with Cinnamon DE.
I have split up my data into a static part and a dynamic part. The static part are all the documents, pictures and other data I have. No .dot files in there. Resides on a SSD and is decrypted and mounted to /mnt/HomeDaten during bootup. fstab entry is:
/dev/mapper/homedata_crypt /mnt/HomeDaten ext4 defaults 0 2The folders on this drive are the ones used by xdg.
All .dot files reside in the normal /home/$USER folder. /home is on a separate drive, also luks encrypted. fstab entry is:
/dev/mapper/home_crypt /home ext4 defaults 0 2
I am using symbolic links to get access to the folders on the static drive. Typical command (in German):
ln -s /mnt/HomeDaten/$USER/Dokumente /home/$USER/Dokumente Problem:
In most folders I cannot move deleted files into the trashcan where I have the chance to review/undo the deletion. I must immediately delete any file. This is not only limited to the linked folders, I seem to have a partial problem in my /home too. Not everywhere. I haven't fully understood the systematics behind the behaviour yet. I played around and copied some empty trashcans on my HomeDaten folder and into the individual folders I have linked. No succes.
What is the reason and what can I do to fix the problem (keeping the setup)?
#17 Re: Installation » Iso to install latest Devuan on UEFI » 2026-06-22 07:39:44
486 UEFI? No way. There is no 486 CPU supported by any bios with uefi.
Please show:
inxi -Fz#18 Re: Installation » Upgrading to Excalibur - lxdm and /boot » 2026-06-15 19:03:11
Don't forget, kernel sizes are growing too. What worked some releases ago must no more work with todays kernels.
#19 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help! Install failing repeatedly/failing to mount file system ext4 » 2026-06-04 20:37:07
Short update: the 6.1.1 netinstall in a VM led to a working cli installation with a similar setup as yours.
Please tell us your work sequence and where the problem finally appears.
#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help! Install failing repeatedly/failing to mount file system ext4 » 2026-06-04 19:34:01
Strange. Have you ticked the format option in the partitioner? I am without any clue what maybe wrong, at least without a better idea about what you have entered. Can you post your settings line by line please? When exactly does this message appear? When leaving the partitioner?
What kind of HW are we talking about? Brand of the laptop and the NVME would be interesting.
I haven't used the 6.1.1 netinstall myself yet, maybe I give it a try in a VM when I have a bit of time.
#21 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help! Install failing repeatedly/failing to mount file system ext4 » 2026-06-04 18:48:13
Well, that one thing I forgot to mention. I am normally putting that into an encrypted LVM together with /.
If you want to use hibernation, make it a bit bigger that the size of the RAM. In old times the saying was twice the RAM, nowadays 1,1 x size of RAM is fine. Your best option is to delete the ext4 partition, first of all create the swap, and then use the rest for /.
#22 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help! Install failing repeatedly/failing to mount file system ext4 » 2026-06-04 18:06:02
Strangely enough, when I go into BIOS the USB shows up twice but booting the first one brings up the installer (haven't tried the second).
UEFI boards do that. If you boot the one without a note/prefix/postfix saying its efi or uefi then you boot the installer in legacy mode. And if you have a brand new laptop it will be uefi only.
Make sure you boot the install stick in UEFI mode.
to my understanding I should be all clear to fully wipe the drive and try again?
The easiest way is to use the installer during partitioning, and to write a new GPT to the drive. That makes sure the old stuff is deleted. There is nothing in the bios that could do that.
Then you first create a 1024MiB large partition, assign it to be ESP, and the rest is done by the installer.
Next you create a whatever you like large partition for /, ext4 as file system and mount point /.
Take a read on the webpage I already mentioned, there is a installtion instruction with pictures. But as far as I know it just describes the auto mode. Manual partitioning isn't mentioned in there. Its a bit arkward.
#23 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help! Install failing repeatedly/failing to mount file system ext4 » 2026-06-04 12:06:52
Hi there. I do not get the full picture yet, your post is a bit confused.
I had Windows 11 up and running up till this point.
What is your goal? Replace Win11 completely or a parallel installation to Win11? The steps to take are different. Before going into details, we should clarify this topic.
Before installing, I tinkered with the BIOS a bit. I disabled and cleared the TPM chip and disabled the "Absolute" tracking system.
TPM isn't relevant for the installation of Excalibur.
Personally, I would go and switch off Secure Boot. On some PCs this is called "Other OS". And I delete all SB keys. Don't need them.
What is this "the "Absolute" tracking system"?
Each time I tried to install I was warned that the intel/sof/sof-tgl.ri firmware was missing.
This is Audio stuff, you can ignore it until Excalibur is up and running.
The first time through I didn't even manage to get past NW configuration. I had to try again with an Ethernet connection.
You may install w/o network. I often do.
Setting up wifi can be very challening in the installer, depending on the HW used. The better solution: Ethernet normally is no big problem, except for on some exotic chipsets.
I had the option to try installing the GRUB boot loader again, but it once again failed.
Sounds like there is an issue with getting the efi grub installed. That can have several reasons. Maybe a confusion between legacy/efi install?
Some remarks:
Your PC must be an modern UEFI capable system, that means only an installation in efi mode makes sense. Make sure that you have disabled CSM in the bios.
When booting the install media, make sure you boot it in efi mode. The bios should show a prefix like efi or uefi before the name of the device.
For an efi installation you need a FAT32 formatted ESP partition. When you do manual partitioning, the ESP has to be configured in the partitioner as ESP, it does not need to be partitioned. Win leaves a relatively small ESP of a bit more than 100MB. When you do a clean Devuan only install, spend 1024 MiB.
It should be no deal to use /dev/nvme0n1p2 as / with ext4 file system. When its empty, you can have it formatted by the installer without data loss. Just the assignment has to be correct.
Good luck.
PS: Here you can find some reading: https://www.devuan.org/os/install
#24 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Using VMs with Devuan as host » 2026-06-03 19:37:39
Well, it depends on the kernel you use. No issue with 6.12, starts with 6.13 to I think 6.18 (not 100% sure, I am still on 6.12 and there it still works). Then its fixed again.
#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (Fixed) Removable CDROM / DVD / Blue-Ray Devices do not Automount » 2026-05-31 17:07:54
Strangely enough tools like gvfs do their job as intended. I need it on my Cinnamon to connect to my smartphone every now and then.
That is more than a little sickly for folks like me that tend to stay away from bloated products like gvfs (wiki) virtual filesystem software for the GNOME desktop environment
So what is so "bloated" about gvfs? Its from Gnome, ok. But its not the desktop. I recently looked at Gnome again because some people were raving about the desktop, but its not my beer.
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