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#1 Re: Other Issues » Error: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/excalibur- » Yesterday 15:06:02

No I am not seing this error message.

First guess: make sure that the clock on your PC is set about correct.

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Running with disconnected SATA cables » Yesterday 10:13:42

The Windows installation did not work anyway, although it was only to play some old games. I first tried WinXP and it said my BIOS was incompatible, I suppose because my MB BIOS is UEFI not MBR type. I then tried Win7 and it did install but without the mouse working - BIOS issue again I guess. I guess I shall just have to play Solitaire in a VM.

Yes, WinXP does not know anything about UEFI. If your mainboard still supports CSM you may try to install XP on a MBR/MSDOS partitioned drive, but you won't find any drivers. And have a lot of fun trying to multi boot legacy and UEFI installations.
Win7SP1 can be installed in efi mode, that works. But there are no USB3 drivers included. You have to find a generic driver or use USB2 ports for mouse and keyboard.

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Want external drive to automatically mount when plugged in » 2025-11-29 19:06:57

Well, I was considering to write a bug report, but I did not do that because I am pretty sure it will be closed with the comment "works as specified".

#4 Re: Installation » Excalibur netinstall on blank iron failed » 2025-11-29 19:03:52

beate wrote:

partitioning: the installer did offer me only fat filesystems and ext2 ????
(i am writing this on a machine grown of ASCII from an old debian using XFS partitions, which means i am really surprised)

I am pretty sure you are using the expert mode and skipped the step thats called "Load installer components from installation media". What you are describing is the typical symptom for that oversight. I thought though that was fixed, I must make a test to confirm.

beate wrote:

the installer did not give me the option to install a boot manager

Maybe also due to the first problem? I have done a few installs from the officially released netinstall 6.0.0 and they worked fine.

Make sure your netinstall download is ok, checksum is correct, and that is from an offcial Devuan mirror.

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Want external drive to automatically mount when plugged in » 2025-11-29 16:13:50

Well, what I got from the debianforum.de, the rules in /etc/udev/rules.d have higher priority. Don't know if that is true.

My preference would be to leave the system directory /usr/lib/udev/rules.d alone and save my tweaks in /etc/udev/rules.d, clear distinction. That also was the suggestion from a very experienced person that looked at the problem and suggested the fix.

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Want external drive to automatically mount when plugged in » 2025-11-29 16:10:36

Ron wrote:

I might be interested in that.

Well, its a LO document in German, and it contains one or the other more or less private comment I don't want to share. I am happy on helping here in the forum on topics I understand and have experience with.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Want external drive to automatically mount when plugged in » 2025-11-29 15:35:44

Yes it sucks. In the meantime I have a long document describing all these tweaks.

BTW: yes you have to create that edit unter /etc yourself. To make it work, either reboot or try a:

# udevadm control –reload
# udevadm trigger

#8 Other Issues » Cinnamon DE and logviewer on Excalibur » 2025-11-29 15:33:12

rolfie
Replies: 0
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.57+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 clocksource: tsc
  Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.4.10 tk: GTK v: 3.24.49 wm: Muffin v: 6.4.1 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
    Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)

The upgrade to Excalibur removed the logviewer I used under Daedalus, the gnome-system-log package. Somebody told me that gnome-logs is the replacement. But this package only takes care for the systemd journal now.

My solution: install mate-utils. That package amongst other stuff contains the mate-system-log.

To make it work also for the syslog and dmesg I had to create a new menu entry. Main topic is the command:

pkexec /usr/bin/mate-system-log

As icon I selected /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/mate-system-log.png which came with the package. 

Also I needed to supply a policy action for policykit. I had one in my backups from previously using Mate as desktop. To be stored in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions as org.mate.mate-system-log.policy. Contents:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE policyconfig PUBLIC
 "-//freedesktop//DTD PolicyKit Policy Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/PolicyKit/1.0/policyconfig.dtd">
<policyconfig>

  <vendor>Mate-System-Log</vendor>
  <vendor_url></vendor_url>
  <icon_name>mate-system-log</icon_name>

<action id="org.mate-system-log.pkexec">
   <description>Run mate-system-log as root</description>
   <message>Authentication is required to run mate-terminal as root.</message>
   <defaults>
      <allow_any>no</allow_any>
      <allow_inactive>auth_admin</allow_inactive>
      <allow_active>auth_admin</allow_active>
   </defaults>
   <annotate key="org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.path">/usr/bin/mate-system-log</annotate>
   <annotate key="org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.allow_gui">true</annotate>
 </action>

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Want external drive to automatically mount when plugged in » 2025-11-29 14:57:45

Hi there, I guess the drive that isn't automounted is ext(x)-formatted, isn't it? Well, there is a new quirk in the udev rules from corporate actors inhibiting automount for ext(x)-partitions and others coming in with Trixie. Found that on the German Debian forum.

Check out for a file /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/64-ext4.rules, it reads:

# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
#
# Copyright (C) 2023 Oracle.  All rights reserved.
# Author: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org>
#
# Don't let udisks automount ext4 filesystems without even asking a user.
# This doesn't eliminate filesystems as an attack surface; it only prevents
# evil maid attacks when all sessions are locked.
#
# According to http://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/udisks.8.html,
# supplying UDISKS_AUTO=0 here changes the HintAuto property of the block
# device abstraction to mean "do not automatically start" (e.g. mount).
SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="ext2|ext3|ext4|ext4dev|jbd", ENV{UDISKS_AUTO}="0"

To override this rule you either change the "0" into a "1" with the risk that your change is overwritten from another update, or better write your own rule and save it to /etc/udev/rules.d/65-ext4.rules:

# extX-Dateisysteme automatisch mounten
SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="ext2|ext3|ext4|ext4dev|jbd", ENV{UDISKS_AUTO}="1" 

HTH

#10 Re: Documentation » How to: Devuan 5 Daedalus an pipewire » 2025-11-26 20:05:43

My box is an upgraded Daedalus with Cinnamon as DE. I use the original script as posted in answer #8. The system is upgraded to Excalibur and works fine. I got sound@cinnamon.org as mixer, and no issues. works for me in my setup. Volume stays at the last setting.

Sorry, can't help you.

On my ToDo list I still have the task to switch to the script as shown in the Excalibur release notes.

#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with apt-get update » 2025-11-26 19:59:46

Ok, I am on conventional DSL here in Frankonia. No glas fibre yet directly to my home. They are working on that.

I use the standard Telekom DNS service and I at least currently have no issues with deb.devuan.org. And I have a Fritzbox bought on my own, no Speedport from Telekom any more.

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with apt-get update » 2025-11-22 18:40:41

Strangely enough, I am also from Germany and have the Deutsche Telekom as ISP. I know the issues you described in your inital post, had them a few times a while ago, but recently no issues at all. And I use the Telekom as DNS provider. Currently no issues, works flawlessly (somewhere in a village in the middle of Frankonia).

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with apt-get update » 2025-11-22 16:54:36

Known problem, issues with DNS resolution by the internet providers. There are various threads here in the forum about this issue. They do not like the deb.devuan.org which is not a single IP but a so called round robin of various servers (used for load distribution). You can't do anything really. Only thing to try is to use a different DNS resolver.
And I would skip the "de" and just use http://deb.devuan.org/.....

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (excalibur) strange messages during startup » 2025-11-16 22:33:58

With Excalibur/Trixie a new kernel feature has been introduced. Some additional messages are coloured now.

Look if bootlogd is installed, if not install. Then you get a subset of what is logged during boot in /var/log/boot.

#15 Re: News & Announcements » Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur! » 2025-11-16 21:34:09

Just upgraded my workstation to Excalibur. Took 20mins, so far working perfectly.

Thanks to the Devuan team.

#17 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 20:40:51

it gives me this error: talion is not in the sudoers file how do i fix that it?

During installation you have the choice: you either allow root login and enter a root password, then you have to use a root console for admin tasks. My preferred method. Or you don't do that then you automatically are assigned to the sudoers group and you have to use a sudo before each admin command. Don't try to mix.

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 19:34:35

Now you're talking about the 'card' drives that don't even use SATA connectors. Power usage doesn't seem to be linear there, either.

Generally spoken, there is not much difference between SATA SSDs in the typical 2,5" housing and these typical 2280 M2 cards as used for NVME drives. The power consumption on all of them are load frequency dependent.

And as a matter of fact, SSDs are in average of much lower power consumption as the spinning rust drives. Don't look at the rating, this is a max consumption value a drive rarely takes in in very extreme situations (and gets very hot and slows down to protect).

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 18:56:27

The power draw from any SSD is very much depending on the write/read load. The figures given are for full load at full speed plus a bit overhead. The average consumption will be very much lower.

But to be considered: PCIe3 consumes less than PCIe4, less than PCIe5.

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Why does Trixie/Excalibur have two Nvidia driver versions (535 / 550)? » 2025-11-14 16:45:34

The NVidea problem is their support for older hardware. They stop providing drivers for older cards and do not adapt them for newer kernels any more. In the last 10 years AMD support has moved into the kernel and is very reliable, also for older cards.

#21 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 16:36:31

Everybody experienced would be very pleased if you could put any console output between code tags, including the command you have used. To write code tags use the button that is labelled code above the editing window, and paste the text between the starter and the end tag. Makes console outputs look like in a console, much more readable and more friendly for the contributors.

I will do this for you as an example by copying your last output and! adding line numbers like a reasonable text editor can do.

 cat /etc/apt/sources.list
1 #deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 6.0.0-rc1 excalibur amd64 - netinstall 20250913]/ excalibur contrib main non-free-firmware
2 
3 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
4 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
5 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
6
7 #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
8
9 # excalibur-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
10 # see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … _backports
11 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware
12 deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware
13
14 # This system was installed using removable media other than
15 # CD/DVD/BD (e.g. USB stick, SD card, ISO image file).
16 # The matching "deb cdrom" entries were disabled at the end
17 # of the installation process.
18 # For information about how to configure apt package sources,
19 # see the sources.list(5) manual.

Your sources.list contains 19 lines of text.

Line 5 and line 11 are (partial) duplicates. Line 11 causes the error messages you are getting.

My advise: get rid of every past line 8 and try again. Attention: there has to be an empty line at the end of the file.

#22 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 06:54:07

It would make sense if the OP would post a

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

#23 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-13 17:26:45

Don't get confused by tux_99's reply. What I gave you is a correct /etc/apt/sources.list for Excalibur. The traditional format.

Now what tux_99 has posted is the new DEB822 format replacing the sources.list in the future. For the time being I would recommend to stay with the traditional format.

#24 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-13 16:28:28

A well defined sources.list looks like this.

No deb-src because this is only needed if you do coding and compiling code.

And no proposed-updates, not required for the normal user, and slightly risky, packages are coming in the release before testing is fully done. Only useful in very specific cases.

Backports is added but commented out. Only useful in very specific cases.

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Where are my logs? » 2025-11-12 16:45:20

All my upgrades on my laptop and in my VMs, I am not missing any logs. Same with a new installation from the released netinstall in a VM. Maybe you used one of the testing editions, and there is something in the back of my mind that rsyslog was missed out on one or two of them.

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