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HardSun

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Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

Because ubuntu's coreutils being rewritten in rust is totally working out!

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2 … 00285.html

Hi all,

I plan to introduce hard Rust dependencies and Rust code into
APT, no earlier than May 2026. This extends at first to the
Rust compiler and standard library, and the Sequoia ecosystem.

In particular, our code to parse .deb, .ar, .tar, and the
HTTP signature verification code would strongly benefit
from memory safe languages and a stronger approach to
unit testing.

If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain,
please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or
sunset the port.

It's important for the project as whole to be able to
move forward and rely on modern tools and technologies
and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software
on retro computing devices.

Thank you for your understanding.
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golinux

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

@HardSun . . . you are just such a ray of sunshine . . . NOT. I am so sick and tired of the "we need modern tools and technologies" bullshit. Nothing good comes of it. It has been all downhill for decades . . .

Would be nice if you shared some good news . . .

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HardSun

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

Good news is hard to come by these days, but i will try next time.
Im sure Julian would tell you this is great news however!

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Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

Hello:

... and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software on retro computing devices.

Of course ...  8^°

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... would tell you this is great news ...

Yes, he would.

I take small confort in the fact that Civilisation (in general) has always had an incredibly over-abundant supply of [braindead / stupid / DHs / AHs]*.
That little snippet from the debian_dev only confirms it.

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tux_99

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

rely on modern tools and technologies

Because "modernity" is all that matters to some folks these days... regardless whether "modern" is actually better or worse.

blackhole

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Registered: 2020-03-16

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

debian developer
ubuntu core developer

And there it is...

So guess who is really forcing in rust?

HardSun

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

So guess who is really forcing in rust?

Oxidization of Linux == converting everything to MIT or BSD licenses.
The corpos want ownership of the plantation, and they can't have that with GPL, so it has to go.
They've got Ubuntu. Is Debian on the same path?

zapper

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

The only reason this could make sense is if they want to enable mediocre developers to make code that doesn't suck.

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

It's important for the project as whole to be able to
move forward and rely on modern tools and technologies
and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software
on retro computing devices.

Translation: "OMG WTF is this 'end-of-10' bullshit? You peasants need to buy new computers and throw that old shit away, we know what's best for you and what's best for you is to spend 1000's of dollars you can't afford every couple years to buy new shit as is the will of your overlords!".

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stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn

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Re: Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year

reminded of this gentleman's functionable laptop:

https://imgur.com/gallery/functionable-wsDdXEN

or perhaps an old thread about old pc:

https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,3216.0.html

also:

ewaste

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