Thoughts on Pipewire

chris2be8 · 2025-08-22 16:33:01

The real question is whether resampling will make any detectable difference. Try a blind test where you have two choices, one is raw data and one has been resampled (or otherwise processed). If you can't tell which choice was resampled you can assume no one else will be able to either (unless their hearing is much better than yours).

If you want to be really sure set up 3 choices, two raw and the other resampled (or the other way round). If you can't tell which choice is the odd one out then it *really* makes no difference.

This assumes the analog amplifier, speakers, etc are all good quality. They are often the limiting factor.

That said you should avoid repeatedly resampling or otherwise processing sound data. Done too often it would degrade the sound.

golinux · 2025-08-22 16:37:42

Sensory data coming in is neutral. What the mind perceives it to be and does with it is a choice. We all live in some sort of fantasy of misread perceptions.

steve_v · 2025-08-22 16:42:47

greenjeans wrote:

I think I still have an old Simpson voltmeter in one of my boxes of old stuff, circa early 80's

Ahh, even better... Vintage test equipment.
Beware, that disease is catching and never entirely curable. Voltmeters are particularly pernicious, being simultaneously easy to obtain and easy to justify. Scopes and signal generators are safer - since they take up more space, it's slightly easier to notice when you ~~have enough~~ only need one more.

Simpson did make nice gear, and I have just realised I don't have any. I'll be right ba...

Ahem, my current "old faithful" bench meter is one of these... And yes, I have used the 5Kv range, and I am still alive.

Project #379 (currently occupying said bench) is to fix the '90s Hameg (yeah, I know, kinda "meh") 40MHz storage scope I got for a song. Digital overlay and analog side don't agree on what range channel B is on, and that's some in-house shift-register data-bus malarkey that looks deliciously entertaining to figure out. Also I'm pretty sure it's the last "hybrid" storage scope with a real tube...
But I digress. I wouldn't want to annoy the locals (more), with off-topic not-conspiracy non-whinging now would I.

Oh, too late. Here they come for amateur philosophy hour.

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igorzwx · 2025-08-22 16:57:00

chris2be8 wrote:

The real question is whether resampling will make any detectable difference.

The real question is whether your trust your ears.

If you do not trust your ears, you can easily fool yourself with "objective tests", and enjoy any "digital crap".

If you do not trust your ears, how can you trust your eyes, your brain, your thoughts, and your opinions, and your "objective tests"?

steve_v · 2025-08-22 17:04:14

Oh, we're at untestable unfalsifiable circular-"logic" already. That didn't take long.
I mean I'd explain why that whole line of argument is one big logical fallacy, but why bother, you're not going to listen.
I could also explain some of the well-documented flaws in human hearing and perception of sound, but that would also be wasted, wouldn't it?

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greenjeans · 2025-08-22 17:20:47

that whole line of argument is one big logical fallacy,

He's relentless with that stuff, he ought to go into politics, lol.

golinux · 2025-08-22 17:54:10

Or a padded cell . . .

igorzwx · 2025-08-22 19:29:26

greenjeans wrote:

into politics

It is about what freedom really is.
Slaves are not supposed to trust their senses. They have to eat their meal and enjoy it.

greenjeans · 2025-08-22 20:06:34

I'll tell ya about some real magic sauce, got a buddy sent me a batch of his homemade naga viper sauce. It will make you see things.

igorzwx · 2025-08-22 21:06:01

greenjeans wrote:

I'll tell ya about some real magic sauce, got a buddy sent me a batch of his homemade naga viper sauce. It will make you see things.

The word "freedom" seems to be associated with drugs. It might be normal for "artists".

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