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#26 2024-10-10 10:31:40

blackhole
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Registered: 2020-03-16
Posts: 106  

Re: Thank you Devuan

This is a misrepresentation of the state of things. While it's true we have to fight with upstream w.r.t. what's related to systemd, without Debian we wouldn't even have a miniscule fraction of manpower to manage the huge package repository that we today inherit from Debian. The devs would be drowning in package maintenance, there would be no resources left for innovation.

Hence "new base", not "everything from scratch".

I'm not suggesting it, I'm predicting/forecasting that it will happen - because it's the logical next step and the last 14 or so years have already shown us the intentions and the roadmap.  Debian is heading in a particular direction, which is going to be more and more incompatible with derivatives that choose to avoid systemd as time goes on.  This is due to the goals and objectives of the Debian project, but also the mission of the systemd project and its developers.  The systemd project engineers its software to force migration and adoption, by taking over core functionality previously provided by separate utilities and coercing/forcing developers to build in further dependencies or suffer inconvenience/extra workload/maintenance.

Developers on the corporate payroll, vs volunteers with limited time.

Essentially Linux and the major distributions are owned and controlled by those corporations you see listed on the Linux foundation website.  It has already happened.

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#27 2024-10-10 19:15:15

goat
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Registered: 2024-03-19
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Re: Thank you Devuan

Pertaining to the above, personally, I'm not of the mind to abandon ship to the BSD ecosystem; though the BSD systems and communities are interesting in of themselves.

As for the rest..

"Where there is a will, there is a way." -- here's hoping.

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#28 2024-10-10 20:29:40

golinux
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Registered: 2016-11-25
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Re: Thank you Devuan

goat wrote:

"Where there is a will, there is a way."

. . . only if there are developers lining up to do the work . . .

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