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#1 Re: Off-topic » yet another, xorg yet again, but... » 2026-07-17 20:54:17

Hosted on github...

...and every commit is attributed to "claude"...

Yes...

#2 Re: Other Issues » Kernel 6.1.0-50 for daedalus got a bug it seems... » 2026-07-15 07:47:12

The filesystem metadata is not fully rewriiten by a kernel update. I assume from your post that you don't know what it is? It is the information relating to files and directories which is not part of those objects data. This includes things like file sizes, modified date, file permissions, etc. There is nothing which should be rewrilting this. It's read by those utils you mentioned.

Utils such as df, just read this metadata, so I would suggest that you're barking up the wrong tree. The metadata  won't have changed between boots/kernels.

So far all of your responses have been "already done that" with no real specifics. The big question is : Booting from that 6.1.176 kernel apparently frees up 400MB which is then lost when reverting to the previous 6.1.174 kernel. But how are you doing that? You need both kernels installed simultaneously. Then you need to reboot into each and check. If you're doing any package management operations between each boot, this obscures your results.

Does booting from any newer kernel also free up this same amount of space? Does the latest stable kernel give the same result? Does the latest 6.1.177 kernel also apparently free up 400MB.

In all tests, are you booting single user mode and comparing all results there?

Have you compared the sizes or kernel image, initrd, kernel modules for each?

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] BCM4312 wifi chip kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: failed to load b43/uc » 2026-07-13 17:00:17

Install the firmware-b43-installer package. That includes a script to extract the firmware from the old Broadcom STA driver, which will then be usable by the in tree b43 driver. You will need to reboot or unload and load the b43 module for it to work.

#4 Re: Other Issues » Kernel 6.1.0-50 for daedalus got a bug it seems... » 2026-07-13 16:56:04

Or cut out the drama, get the previous kernel and boot from that.  Also install the latest stable kernel and boot from that - compare the results...

If you were to report a bug, those are the kind of steps which would be expected as a bare minimum.

#5 Re: Other Issues » Kernel 6.1.0-50 for daedalus got a bug it seems... » 2026-07-13 07:39:41

Here you have presented the scenario along with your theorised cause and there's really nothing there in the way of useful data. Perhaps you lost some cache or similar data from /tmp in the course of a reboot after a kernel upgrade?  Were any packages removed? Who can say? One can only speculate. If it were a kernel bug, you could easy have proven / eliminated that yourself by booting from the previous kernel...

#6 Re: DIY » Basic GUI man-page browser/viewer » 2026-07-10 16:39:50

"I don't know squat about writing man pages though, the raw format is weird. Seems like they could have just used .txt files."

As in a MS DOS / Windows format?

#7 Re: Off-topic » Debian looking to switch to the non-GNU Rust based uutils » 2026-07-07 20:41:42

Anyone capable of thinking for themselves dismisses Lunduke's sensationalist clickbait crap...

#8 Re: Off-topic » Debian looking to switch to the non-GNU Rust based uutils » 2026-07-07 20:08:41

EDX-0, you missed the point, then went off on a tangent.

They're rewriting in rust, and the replacements are permissive licensed, rather than GPL. There are those still in the GNU/Linux camp who aren't comfortable with that and would question the motives. This has nothing to do with the licence of similar utilities in any of the BSDs.

Also: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windo … s/overview

#9 Re: Off-topic » Debian looking to switch to the non-GNU Rust based uutils » 2026-07-07 17:55:22

Looking at the linked mailing list thread, even Theodore T'so has concerns about uutils and it's license.

This is what more should be concerned about. Unfortunately, if you raise such concerns, you're a conspiracy nut.

The are rewriting something which has essentially just worked, for decades in a "memory safe" language and the end result is a bug fest, with numerous CVEs.

I'm wondering if this will be the beginning of a new "rewrite in rust, and release under permissive licence" trend.

If Ubuntu are getting it, you can be certain that eventually Debian will too.

#10 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Why hasn't sysvinit been abandoned yet? » 2026-07-05 12:44:58

sysvinit is still maintained. Until it's no longer maintained, it will still be around. Is it any good? Is anything? Is vi any good if you love emacs? It worked for years, it was versatile and you had the freedom to use it or not - and if you wanted e.g. service supervision, you installed and configured something to do that.

You could say the same for C - it's ancient, but still used for all meaningul systems programming. Other languages have come and gone, some have lingered around, but theyre used for application programming. Look at Qt for example, it's written in C++. Also there's the likes of C#, java and (I hesitate to mention it) rust. It took over 30 years to get the Linux kernel and BSD kernels to get to where they are now. Similar with the NT kernel. No one is going to commit commercial suicide and rewrite these in the latest fad language. It's the same with sysvinit - you can write as many init replacements as you like, but unless one comes along with clear technical merits which leads to widespread adoption, people won't switch. That's why the corporate backers of systemd used a clear strategy of funding/hiring to get distributions to move - to a solution which, at the time, wasn't very mature and had an awful lot of issues.

One of the pillars of free software used to be freedom of choice - so someone could work on a project, they and others could use the result, without people calling for it's obsolescence or sneering. The corporations had a lot of willing useful idiots to assist with this.

#11 Re: Other Issues » Xorg devuan forks » 2026-06-29 07:13:46

There seems to be a dependency for xserver-xorg-core on "libsystemd0".

Not sure what the issue was with xserver-common.

#13 Re: Packaging for Devuan » unable to run photoqt » 2026-06-24 07:34:37

Run it from a terminal emulator and post the output?

#14 Re: Forum Feedback » Please consider not using stopforumspam » 2026-06-11 08:03:09

Back in the day, I used to look up obvious spammers who had not yet edited in their links on stopforumspam's db and if I got both an email address and IP address hit I would ban both and delete the account. Never ran it server side. It could be quite labour intensive. Some sites simply get indundated, to the point where you need a few dedicated volunteers, those people eventually get bored or burn out and move on. And now there are"AI" scrapers, making sites unusable also.

Times have changed. A lot of people use VPNs for very valid reasons these days, there are also dynamic IP addresss as it is, so automatically banning using SFS is admittedly a bit brutal. I'm not altogether sure the level of traffic here warrants it, but it's up to those running the site. Usually these kind of countermeasures have some kind of message, informing the blocked user and providing some means of making contact? Is that the case here?

It's one of those problems which won"t go away - they use disposable email addresses, so banning only on email address is ineffective. VPN use also means banning IPs is also of little use.

The problem is the modern web - it's become a cesspool. Years ago, Tor and similar software, seemed like ideal solutions for privacy - then nearly every site you visit blocks you and after cycling through exit nodes for a time, most will give up.

So it's not actually stopforumsspam or this site's fault - it's the fault of the people/corporations who have collectively transformed the web into 99% shit.

#15 Re: Devuan » Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit? » 2026-06-10 20:41:52

coder-hase, you started out with a put down, followed by a wall of meaningless babble, most of which falls into tl;dr territory. What I can discern is that you haven't understood my post at all. Not interested.

#16 Re: Installation » Firefox lags and sometimes freezes completely on Devuan 6 » 2026-06-09 08:18:55

That's more of a workaround. That error is amdgpu driver related. So the first step should be to compile a newer kernel to see if this has been fixed. There are usually newer kernels in backports, so if you don't want to compile your own, install the latest, reboot and test.

#17 Re: Devuan » Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit? » 2026-06-09 07:50:41

Service supervision is "real world" crap which enterprise demands. There's a reason why BSD projects don't include it in the base system - the philosophy was always "write your programs correctly, so that they don't crash". Unfortunately people code up stuff that is "good enough". This is because Big Tech don't pay people to sit around fixing bugs or refactoring code.

As an example, enterprise also demands "LTS" Linux kernels - predictable failure - which are no benefit at all to the typical desktop user, which are buggy and only include back ported security parches. You could be fighting with and working around a wifi or display driver problem, for example, that was fixed in the next kernel release, but your distribution of choice went down the "LTS" route - using a kernel intended for the likes of Red Hat. There is "choice" many will say, but unfortunately a good proprtion are quite simply unaware or misinformed.

#18 Re: Devuan » Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit? » 2026-06-08 18:54:22

One of the "selling points" often parrotted by systemd fanbois was boot times. I was often told how fast it boots up, and I usually responded with words to the effect that actually it shuts down very quickly. You would gain more from just switching from a hard disk to an SSD if you cared that much about boot time.

All the talk of service supervision and boot times is just a "race to the bottom" against systemd. Stability, simplicity,code correctness, robustness and reliability are worth pursuing. Boot performance and a functionality to babysit and restart equally unreliable crap is not.

#19 Re: Installation » Firefox lags and sometimes freezes completely on Devuan 6 » 2026-06-08 17:23:21

That's a lot of workarounds. It could be graphics stack / acceleration related. In such cases I would normally install a newer kernel from backports and see if that resolves it.

Also you will need the "non-free" drm firmware installed for Intel or AMD GPUs - that's the first step.

#20 Re: Devuan » Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit? » 2026-06-08 17:14:25

I have never needed to use runit or any other alternatives such as OpenRC. Technically both look pretty well designed to me, but the need has never arisen. At home I have always stuck to sysvinit or BSD init. At work I have had to use systemd and write unit files for anything running as a daemon. (would be nice to use one of those there, but it's not worth the trouble).

Personally I think the increased adoption of runit and OpenRC was driven by systemd's anti sysvinit propaganda. Some willingly swallowed this with the added "...but systemd is not the answer" clause. Others utilised it as a means of distancing themselves from the critique being directed at sysvinit in order to undermine it and establish systemd as the de facto standard. Those people who jumped ship and dumped on sysvinit did a lot of the damage in my opinion - they did the devil's work, by word for word repeating sysvinit's supposed deficiencies.  Apparently vindicating the systemd cabal in the process.

The harsh reality is that if you're just a desktop user, and not a server admin, you may see no benefits from something like runit, where the main focus is service supervision, except for perhaps slightly faster boot times.

#21 Re: Off-topic » low end gaming on linux » 2026-06-02 17:20:07

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/argument_n?tl=true

"I.1.a.a1325–An assertion or fact put forward in order to persuade or sway others; a reason advanced in support of (or in opposition to) a proposition; the assertion or point of view for which a person is arguing."

Though the poor argumentation began when you dismissed steve_v as a steam fanboy.

#22 Re: Off-topic » word is that flatpak 2.0 WILL depend on systemd » 2026-05-24 19:06:15

Flatpak is Flatpack, but if you leave the c out it's way cooler and the fanbois love that...

#23 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Unknown file » 2026-05-21 16:03:06

Possibly something you have accidentally redirected to a file while running commands as root, due to a syntax error. perhaps.

/root is the root user's home directory. No packages would install in that location. Open it in a text editor
and have a look?

#24 Re: Devuan » Will Wayland on Gnome etc. work on Devuan 6 in the future release? » 2026-05-21 15:56:01

gnome is a lost cause. I recently installed it in a Debian 13 system and it's truly a GUI designed by people who view their users as total idiots. It's developed from a proprietary mindset and is systemd focused, only a masochist would waste time trying to get it working on a systemd-less Linux distribution - bearing in mind that the upstream are constantly working against you.

#25 Re: Devuan » Will Wayland on Gnome etc. work on Devuan 6 in the future release? » 2026-05-21 08:23:08

The gnome project have made it clear that they only care about Linux based OS with systemd installed, so don't get your hopes up.

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