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you see alot of bad info on this topic
so im going to share some info on this
fist of avoid steam the last thing you need is that bloat running on low end pcs
wine is a much lighter way of running windows soft/games
its also worth to note that steam defaults to vulkan so if youre card cant do vulkan
it will run the game with software vulkan leading to very poor framerate 1/4 fps
common mistake i see alot
as for old gpus that cant go over opengl 2.1 with no vulkan
i found that wine 9 works the best
the new wine 11 had some very strange bugs
like transparent textures not displaying right
and cdda music not working at all
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Steam uses wine to run windows games. The differences between "vanilla" wine and steam's "proton" fork are minimal, and usually confined to the latter being optimised and/or patched for gaming as opposed to general application compatibility.
steam defaults to vulkan so if youre card cant do vulkan it will run the game with software vulkan
This has nothing whatsoever to do with steam. Proton (and most other "gaming" focused wine builds and frontends for that matter) defaults to enabling DXVK (and VKD3D for DX12) , because that is by far the best performing DirectX API translation layer available.
DXVK will use whatever vulkan renderer the host graphics drivers advertise, and on antique GPUs that could well be the lavapipe CPU implementation... Provided by mesa.
If your GPU doesn't support vulkan, you'd be better served by reading the documentation and setting the appropriate environment variables, rather than wasting perfectly good oxygen bitching about steam and "bloat".
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Steam uses wine to run windows games. The differences between "vanilla" wine and steam's "proton" fork are minimal, and usually confined to the latter being optimised and/or patched for gaming as opposed to general application compatibility.
steam defaults to vulkan so if youre card cant do vulkan it will run the game with software vulkan
This has nothing whatsoever to do with steam. Proton (and most other "gaming" focused wine builds and frontends for that matter) defaults to enabling DXVK (and VKD3D for DX12) , because that is by far the best performing DirectX API translation layer available.
DXVK will use whatever vulkan renderer the host graphics drivers advertise, and on antique GPUs that could well be the lavapipe CPU implementation... Provided by mesa.If your GPU doesn't support vulkan, you'd be better served by reading the documentation and setting the appropriate environment variables, rather than wasting perfectly good oxygen bitching about steam and "bloat"
useing a core2duo and 4gigs of ram steam is very much bloat
no need to fanboy over a storefront
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a core2duo and 4gigs of ram
Is literally retrocomputing at this point (for the love of doG, at least put a C2Q in it), and you'd be better off dual-booting a stripped-down Windows XP. With those specs, WINE is "bloat".
fanboy
Nothing of the sort, simply saying it the way it is. If your graphics drivers advertise that they can do vulkan (which mesa can, on the CPU), then things will naturally try to use it.
None of this is steam at fault, it's simply a consequence of trying to run modern software on ancient hardware. Crying "bloat" any time you run into hardware limitations doesn't change reality.
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Is literally retrocomputing at this point (for the love of doG, at least put a C2Q in it), and you'd be better off dual-booting a stripped-down Windows XP. With those specs, WINE is "bloat".
linux works well on old pcs no need to use windows
This has nothing whatsoever to do with steam. Proton (and most other "gaming" focused wine builds and frontends for that matter) defaults to enabling DXVK (and VKD3D for DX12) , because that is by far the best performing DirectX API translation layer available.
DXVK will use whatever vulkan renderer the host graphics drivers advertise, and on antique GPUs that could well be the lavapipe CPU implementation... Provided by mesa.If your GPU doesn't support vulkan, you'd be better served by reading the documentation and setting the appropriate environment variables, rather than wasting perfectly good oxygen bitching about steam and "bloat".
last u checked you cant bow oxygen on a text bar
my point still stands you just a blunt fanboy of steam
and will go out of youre way and defend it
there is no reason to install storefront over wine
just to run exes
thats just bloat simple as
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