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#151 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » "Partial ACPI Installation" on MacBook5,2 » 2025-10-07 17:44:46

Oh, interesting. I don't have that one. I have:

ii  acpi-fakekey                     0.143-5.1                     amd64        tool to generate fake key events
ii  acpi-support                     0.143-5.1                     all          scripts for handling many ACPI events
ii  acpi-support-base                0.143-5.1                     all          scripts for handling base ACPI events such as the power button
ii  acpid                            1:2.0.33-2+b1                 amd64        Advanced Configuration and Power Interface event daemon

I don't know what you need, but -support and -support-base are probably good ones to try first.

#152 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » "Partial ACPI Installation" on MacBook5,2 » 2025-10-07 16:16:35

This is just a guess, but you could start by seeing what acpi packages are already installed and compare that to what's available in the repo. Post the output of the first command and maybe someone can tell you what's missing.

# show what's installed
dpkg -l | grep acpi

# see what's available
apt-cache search acpi

#153 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Login as root on Graphcial desktop possible » 2025-10-05 19:19:52

I think there is a significant security risk - if there's a vulnerability in some piece of software that gives an attacker access to your session, they don't have to bother with escalating privileges because they're already root. Imagine running a web browser as root and allowing all unknown entities to run javascript as root on your machine. Up until recently, xorg always ran as root. It was changed because it was a security risk.

#154 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Login as root on Graphcial desktop possible » 2025-10-05 19:13:16

Suse used to allow root login to desktop. I don't know if it's still the case. The default desktop background for root was a picture of a bomb. Good reminder.

The only time I ever log into the desktop as root is if I can't do it as user, and I want to narrow down the problem.

#155 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to report "gpg: BAD signature" » 2025-10-03 23:38:15

See if this fixes it:

 gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --refresh-keys

#156 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Lease files piling up in /var/lib/NetworkManager » 2025-10-02 19:49:33

OK, I confirmed the pileup of lease files when there's no system-connections file for eth0. I think I'll include this in the main part of the script. I can put the creation of the generic system-connections file in where the other network configs get removed. That way, if they turn off that section  (with netconfig_opt="ip=frommedia" in refractasnapshot.conf) they won't lose their connections file. Removal of all the lease files would be outside of that so it's not turned off. Or probably those should be listed in the rsync excludes file. Tell me if any of this doesn't make sense.

#157 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Lease files piling up in /var/lib/NetworkManager » 2025-10-01 13:38:47

I'm still not understanding this "Wired connection" file. I can't tell if it does anything or not.

I have "Ethernet connection 1.nmconnection"  and I moved it out of the way and deleted all the lease files in /var/lib/NetworkManager and rebooted. The missing nmconnection file did not get regenerated, but I do have a working ethernet connection. And note that mine does not have the same name that yours does. This is in daedalus on a laptop and /e/n/i only has the loopback interface defined.

#158 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] removing adjfontsize (LARGER FONTS/SMALLER FONTS) » 2025-10-01 12:47:40

The name of the package is fontsnaps. It's one of the few native devuan packages, but it doesn't have "devuan" in the version string because only forked packages get that.

$ dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/LARGER_FONTS.desktop 
fontsnaps: /usr/share/applications/LARGER_FONTS.desktop

#159 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Error Sylpheed upon start (G FILENAME ENCODING NOT SET) » 2025-09-30 12:39:50

I think it means that you have to do one of two things - either set the system locale to one that uses UTF-8 or else set the environment variable in that program as explained in the README they mention.

To set the system locale, run dpkg-reconfigure locales as root.
or
To set the locale in the program... (do whatever it says in the README.)

#160 Re: Installation » firefox on old 32 bit cpu » 2025-09-25 16:13:24

You could try this iso which works on my netbook that has a 32-bit intel atom processor, but it's built from devuan (excalibur) so it will have the same browsers as pure devuan or debian.

For browsers, this iso has lynx, links2 and dillo installed. Firefox and chromium will give you the same error message. Maybe falkon will work. If you already have daedalus installed, falkon is available in the repo and you don't need this iso to try it.

https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 0_1739.iso

#161 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-24 15:50:45

The -0, -1, or -10 at the end of the filename corresponds to the $DISPLAY that was used.

If you switch to console without stopping the desktop, log in and then start a second desktop on :1, you'll get another file in ~/.dbus/session-bus with the same number as /var/lib/dbus/machine-id except with -1 at the end, but only if there's a number in dbus/machine-id. If you delete that file first, you won't get another one in your home unless you also restart dbus. (e.g. cycle through 'init 1' and 'ctrl-d')

> ctrl-alt-f1 to get to console
> log in as user
Run:
  startx -- :1 

#162 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-23 23:29:22

Greenjeans: that is weird about the 21 files with the same time/date. I have no ideas about that.

This will nuke them all:

find / -type f -wholename "*.dbus/session-bus/*" -exec rm {} \;

#163 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Why freia ? » 2025-09-23 17:57:31

If you have both ceres and freia in sources.list, you will only get ceres packages unless you pin ceres to a lower priority than freia.

There's no -security for ceres or freia, and excalibur-security won't have package versions that match what's in freia/ceres right now.

Excalibur is currently in the twilight zone between testing and stable. It hasn't been declared Stable yet, but it has been disconnected from the unstable to testing pipeline, and it's based on Debian Trixie which is their stable release. That's why freia exists, which will be our next testing suite.

#164 Re: Installation » RISC-V in Excalibur » 2025-09-18 14:17:38

I see a mini.iso in the netboot directory here: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … nt/images/

And I checked one of our forked packages (util-linux) and there's one for riscv64 that's the same version as excalibur amd64.
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/poo … til-linux/

So it looks like it's possible. The mini.iso is the same as what debian calls (or called?) business card iso. It's like the netinstall but doesn't have firmware in the iso. If you try it, please report back and let us know if it worked. Thanks.

#165 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-17 21:56:44

I should have mentioned this in my last post. Default behavior in devuan is for /var/lib/dbus/machine-id to be replaced on reboot. This can be disabled to revert to the upstream default by commenting the line that says: IDTYPE="RANDOM" in /etc/default/dbus. If you do that, the id number will be constant. I don't know if there are other situations where it will change. Maybe on update of dbus packages? That's just a guess.

#166 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-17 21:13:59

Nice find. I'll add it to the excludes file. You should probably keep the newest one, but the rest can be deleted.

I've got over 200 of them and I hardly ever reboot. The file name is your dbus machine-id which changes on every reboot in devuan unless you edit /etc/default/dbus or run a script that changes it for you. (I have one)

OK, I just ran my script and changed /var/lib/dbus/machine-id. The file in ~/.dbus/session-bus did not change, but when I switched to root in a terminal, the new id was in /root/.dbus/session-bus. I guess if I log out and in, then user will get the new number.

Maybe this needs another line or two. (Note: Most of this code was borrowed from a live-config script.)
EDIT: Note 2: no guarantee that it won't screw something up that needs a consistent machine-id. Also no guarantee that it will prevent your machine from being identified.

#!/bin/sh
# update-machineid
# Change /var/lib/dbus/machine-id manually.

MACHINEID=/var/lib/dbus/machine-id
UUIDGEN=/usr/bin/dbus-uuidgen
UUIDGEN_OPTS=--ensure

if [ "$(id -u)" -ne 0 ] ; then
        echo " You need to be root."
        exit 1
fi

if [ -f "${MACHINEID}" ] && [ -x "$UUIDGEN" ] ; then
	OLD_ID=$(cat $MACHINEID)
	rm -f "${MACHINEID}"
    $UUIDGEN $UUIDGEN_OPTS
	NEW_ID=$(cat $MACHINEID)
	notify-send -t 5000 "Changed dbus machine-id
 old: $OLD_ID
new: $NEW_ID" 
fi

exit 0

#167 Re: Other Issues » Alsa errors during boot of Excalibur » 2025-09-16 22:37:12

b) IDTYPE="RANDOM"

Feature.

e) ntpsec-ntpdate

I'm not sure if that one runs when you reboot. I have a script to run it when I think my time has drifted. Fuzzy, I know.

For full synchronization, use the ntp package.

#168 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No automount after update to Excalibur » 2025-09-07 13:04:59

What kind of shares are they? NFS, Samba, local partitions or something else?

What's in /etc/fstab?

Also please post the output of blkid and maybe lsblk. Maybe other stuff, too after we narrow it down.

#169 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Question about using Nouveau for Nvidia graphics » 2025-09-05 19:30:28

In chimaera and daedalus, the nvidia firmware is in firmware-misc-nonfree. The version of firmware-nvidia-graphics in daedalus-backports probably has support for newer hardware and is meant to be used with the backports kernel.

My old GT218 works without the firmware, but as Altoid mentioned, there are a lot of complaints about missing firmware. I don't recall if I could see any difference when I finally installed the firmware.

Note: you can have two monitors with nouveau. The monitor settings in xfce, lxde and lxqt will let you configure two monitors. (maybe more - I never tried three).

#170 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » three questions regarding Realtek RTL8812AU » 2025-09-05 14:52:18

Your description of the debian installer's network setup is what I see when I use the devuan installer on a laptop. I don't know how you got to the screen you described. I do know that near the beginning of the devuan install there's a screen that asks you to supply firmware on a separate usb stick, and in most cases you should ignore that and continue. But that comes before the screen that lets you choose the interface to set up.

#171 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] tomcat9 version in chimaera » 2025-09-04 14:45:25

No, it's not in -security. Note the "devuan" in the version string. It's a forked package and hasn't been updated yet. I don't know if the maintainer is working on it. Maybe a bug report for tomcat9 in devuan would help. (email method is easy)
https://bugs.devuan.org/Reporting.html

#172 Re: Devuan » Devuan Excalibur + Shepherd » 2025-09-03 20:20:35

I don't see scripts on that page, just deb packages. And they aren't the same ones that are in debian/devuan. The versions of guile don't match the current versions in bookworm/daedalus. You're probably better off installing the packages from the repo.

#173 Re: Devuan » Devuan Excalibur + Shepherd » 2025-09-02 19:32:51

apt policy shepherd
shepherd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.0.3-1
  Version table:
     1.0.6-2 10
         10 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages
     1.0.3-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages

#174 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre! » 2025-09-02 17:57:33

I'm curious to see what glxgears tells you. Added xlibre to a refracta-excalibur (xfce)  VM and tested in qemu and hardware against the same system with xorg.

In qemu...

xlibre:  18FPS
xorg:  800FPS

live-usb on hardware (Thinkpad T450s)...

xlibre: 60FPS
xorg:   60FPS

I don't know enough to make any intelligent comments about that. I do notice that xlibre is slow in qemu.

#175 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Should the live desktop auto start RAID arrays? » 2025-09-01 21:06:15

Thanks for all the testing and thanks to all for helping with this. I'll keep this arrangement, and I already made a minimal-live iso with mdadm included but not installed. That one and future desktop isos won't have "noraid" in the name, but that's what they will be.

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