Uploading updated versions of Openbox and Mate maximal versions now, not a lot has changed but Devuan pushed a kernel update along with libc and some others, seemed important enough to run some new images, plus I added the conky code I posted above, and added more info to release notes, dotted some i's and crossed some t's here and there.

Time machine?

More like pissy Microsoft wannabe, but never good enough to make the cut to make the big bucks in Redmond or Cupertino. Gnome devs=same thing.

They despise people having any choices, want to further close the source and commercialize linux and give it unremoveable "branding", these people are the very antithesis of everything open-source stands for, and a clear and present danger to free software going forward.

Refracta-Snapshot is what I build with, it's perfect for my needs and how I do things, which is as an advanced user, not a developer. It's ultra-user friendly, a comfy GUI and just a few questions and you can roll your own.

It would be possible to do _most_ of what I do, with live-sdk if you were willing to invest the time to make an extremely lengthy and detailed build template....I told FSR I would give that a try at some point, but to be honest i'm a little daunted by it and not even sure I could get the level of detail that I get working the post-install system.

Once I have tweaked a system to the nth degree and am finally ready to run a snapshot, after that first run I have a template, so subsequent builds are super easy, load a template iso on a partition, update packages and make any changes desired, squash the results and boom, new iso.

It's not a "build" system like live-sdk is really, it's a tool for making copies, and requires a system already be in place to use it. But it's damned effective, and allows even novice users to experiment and create, I especially like that aspect, more people playing makes for a robust environment for innovation and development.

So is this only in Ascii?

That's so bizarre. What kind of partition table was on the bad sticks to start with, ms-dos?

Yay! Glad you guys fixed it, but before you go to all the below steps on any other drive that does this in the future, I was wondering if you had tried just creating a new partition table first before proceeding with formatting? Knowing gparted and thumbdrive weirdness i've experienced in the past, i'd say there was a good chance doing just that might have been what fixed it, not sure you needed to zero it out first.

Okay I just found another way to reproduce this.

If you run gparted and format the usb stick to something, but don't add any content to the disk before trying it, it will automount the stick but not open Caja. If you put any piece of content whatsoever on the stick, then it will auto-open as well as auto-mount.

Gnuser are you trying the stick fresh from re-formatting but with no content?

Nope. I'm running the exact same system. And just tested another Devuan Mate install, everything working correctly.

Can't be gparted, I use it all the time and have never had the issue. Your x-content in this case is simply the fat32 filesystem you put on the usb, if it mounts it you're fine, just need to auto-open.

Just for giggles, open caja as root, and make sure that box is checked for root user as well.

Mate is funny like that, i've had some glitches in the past where the system didn't want to honor the user's preferences because root preferences were different.

I'm using Mate right now and can confirm that unchecking that box stops auto-open on my machine, and re-checking it makes it work again.

Might be something you need to do in the mimeapps.list.

There are settings in dconf related to automount, and automount-open that are usually both active in the default install, that's why it automounts it and continues to automount after formatting.

Automount-open however, only works on media for which no known x-content is detected, if the media is recognized it will use the user-specified action instead.

Open caja, click Edit>>Preferences>>Media>> and be sure that the bottom box "Browse media when inserted" is checked. If that doesn't work you may need to add to the mimeapps.list

The only one in the repo is the ubiquitous Clamav, it works okay, have used it a fair bit. There are also some rootkit programs like rkhunter.