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#776 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 11:29:23

Hello fsr:

fsmithred wrote:

Live isos can boot the entire iso into RAM.

Yes.

fsmithred wrote:

Add "toram" or maybe "toram=filesystem.squashfs" to the boot command for a live-usb ...
... that way might allow you to install over the imaged usb, but then you have to get it right the first time ...

That's a good idea.
Have to get it right the first time around.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#777 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 10:03:31

Hello:

Camtaf wrote:

... you are trying to install it to the same pendrive ...

Exactly.
See previous posts.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#778 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 03:03:50

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Looks funny yes ...

So I thought.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... hard to know what is happening when you start partitioning the installer disk ...
... installing over itself is probably stretching it too far.

Indeed.
For some reason I had it in my head/was convinced that is was loading to RAM ...  8^°
I wonder where I got that from?

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... really need the installed system to replace the installer on that USB ...

No, not that at all.
More ignorance (of how the install process works) than anything else.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... misunderstood your use case?

You are too kind.

Thanks (many) for your input.

Best,

A.

#779 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 01:59:42

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Have you done like that before?

Install Linux directly on a USB drive?
Most probably, long ago.
Really can't recall.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

What did you expect to see?

More like what I did not expect to see.

eg: the installer informing me that ...
      - it would format partitions in drives that don't belong to the drive previously selected for the installation.
      ie: drive selected is /dev/sdc but it informs that it will format partition #3 in /dev/sdb

      - it would format an inexistent partition.
      ie: drive /dev/sdf does not have a partition #3

Obviously, this problem has an easy enough solution: take all drives in my box off-line.

But questions remain:

Why does the installer want to work on drives not selected for the installation?
Why does the installer see an inexistent partition in one of those drives?

I think that that type of thing should not happen.
Surely it can't be because the selected drive is a USB stick?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#780 Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-27 22:46:00

Altoid
Replies: 22

Hello:

I downloaded the devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_netinstall.iso, checked it aginst its SHA256SUM and burned it to a 64Gb USB2.0 stick.
The purpose was to install it to that same USB stick.

When I got to writing the partitions I came across something strange, see for yourselves:

netinstall.jpg

The USB stick I am using for the installation is SCSI8 (sdc).

SCSI6 (sdb) is my system drive and /dev/sdb3 is the swap file.

SCSI9 (sdf) is *not* partitioned and it contains a few important backup files.

sdf1.jpg

Anyone knows what is going on?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

PD: sorry for the lousy image system but the one I had is no longer free.

#781 Re: Off-topic » Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem » 2023-07-19 02:22:37

Hello:

recklessswing wrote:

If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist?

Is that a question to ask here, at Dev1?
Seeing that there is no systemd in Devuan, you may want to consider asking that question here.

recklessswing wrote:

... the sole reason I choose devuan when I can.

If that is your sole reason for your choosing Devuan, I think you have a lot of reading up to do.

Best,

A.

#782 Re: Off-topic » PHP joke » 2023-07-14 01:48:33

Hello:

andyp67 wrote:

... purchasing stuff off Jack Ma's Aliexpress ...
... unable to login because the PHP is not working right ...

I also purchase things from Aliexpress, no problems logging in.
I use Firefox 102+uBlock Origin for most if not all my web activity.
Everything goes through Pi-Hole set up as a recursive DNS server in a VM inside my Devuan box.

Am I missing something?

Best,

A.

#783 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Random Xorg crashes after upgrading to Daedalus » 2023-07-05 00:06:09

Hello:

GNUser wrote:

... you may have to change Device1 to Device0):

Section "Device"
	Identifier "Device1"
	Driver "intel"
EndSection

--- snip ---

... had to change Device0 to Device1 for the config file to have any effect. Crashes went away with this.

Reading your post I vaguely recalled a similar issue (many) years ago when I was attempting to go from a single screen layout to a two (and then three) screen layout.

I was trying to get a manually configured xorg.conf file to work but had started the screen numbering at 1 instead of at 0.   

Once I got it to work I never had to look at it again: I have used the same *.conf file with the same hardware through at least four different distributions and now with Devuan since Jesse.

See Device Section here: https://www.x.org/releases/current/doc/ … #heading10

Screen number

This option is mandatory for cards where a single PCI entity can drive more than one display (i.e., multiple CRTCs sharing a single graphics accelerator and video memory). One Device section is required for each head, and this parameter determines which head each of the Device sections applies to. The legal values of number range from 0 to one less than the total number of heads per entity. Most drivers require that the primary screen (0) be present.

In short: screen numbers start at 0.

Best,

A.

#784 News & Announcements » X.Org Security Advisory: Sub-object overflows in libX11 » 2023-06-16 01:45:26

Altoid
Replies: 0

Hello:

Got this today in my inbox:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

X.Org Security Advisory: June 15, 2023

Buffer overflows in InitExt.c in libX11 prior to 1.8.6 [CVE-2023-3138]
====================================================

The functions in src/InitExt.c in libX11 prior to 1.8.6 do not check
that the values provided for the Request, Event, or Error IDs are
within the bounds of the arrays that those functions write to, using
those IDs as array indexes.  Instead they trusted that they were called
with values provided by an Xserver that was adhering to the bounds
specified in the X11 protocol, as all X servers provided by X.Org do.

As the protocol only specifies a single byte for these values, an
out-of-bounds value provided by a malicious server (or a malicious
proxy-in-the-middle) can only overwrite other portions of the Display
structure and not write outside the bounds of the Display structure
itself.  Testing has found it is possible to at least cause the client
to crash with this memory corruption.

This is fixed in:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib … 0332cfa36c
which is included in the libX11 1.8.6 release issued today.

X.Org thanks Gregory James Duck for reporting this issue to our security team.

--
Alan Coopersmith - alan.coopersmith@oracle.com
X.Org Security Response Team - xorg-security@lists.x.org

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Best,

A.

#785 Re: Other Issues » usb pendrive always mounted as read-only » 2023-05-30 00:00:09

Hello:

entropyagent wrote:

... idea of a hardware failure as a personal insult, especially if it is something I paid my own actual money for.

Indeed ...

But it happens and there can be quite a few reasons.
From crappy memory chips in cheap USB sticks to counterfit Kingston USB drives to faulty/dirty USB sockets.

entropyagent wrote:

... accept the loss and beg/buy/borrow/steal another drive?

I would first try the (apparently) offending drive on a different host. ie: another PC, laptop, RPi, whatever you have available.

Boot to a terminal and do a command line nuke of the thing, a thorough clean-up via dd.
Once that is done, attempt the same operation you had problems with and check the result.

If the problem subsists, the drive is bad.
If the operation was successful, repeat the whole process to rule out a fluke.

The first thing is to rule out a hardware fault.
In my experience, the usual suspects are the USB stick and then, if using a portable, the USB socket.

A few years ago I chased USB stick issues for over two days till I discovered an intermittently failing USB socket in my Asus 1000HE.

Best,

A.

#786 Re: Other Issues » Update nginx > 1.19.4 » 2023-05-29 12:50:30

Hello:

SpongeBOB wrote:

... running Chimaera and I would like to update my nginx to >= 1.19.4
... how can I update my Chimaera to a version above 1.19.4 ?

Consider waiting till the new version becomes available in the Chimaera repository?
Or maybe gets backported?

---

SpongeBOB wrote:

... followed those instructions ...
Installing a Prebuilt Debian Package ...

Debian package Devuan package.
Installing a package from a Debian repository to a Devuan installation is, more often than not, a source of grief and/or problems.
There is a reason for the existence of Devuan repositories.

SpongeBOB wrote:

... from the Official NGINX Repository ...

The NGINX Repository, official or not, is not a Debian or Devuan repository.
Noob or not, one thing you should know by now is that installing from foreign repositories is not advisable. ;^°

That said ...

Just what is it about the next version of nginx that is taking you down this path?
Is there a severe security problem involved?
If that's the case, be sure that a patched version will be available very soon.

Is there some essential functionality you need?
Do bear in mind that latest versions are not necessarily better.
Or as tested by its users as previous ones have been since the last release.

And as such, not necessarily bugless.

Best,

A.

#787 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-26 18:03:42

Hello:

steve_v wrote:

... no proposed mechanism or reliable reproduction ...
... should be punted upstream to the kernel mailing list.
Investigating esoteric kernel bugs is not Devuan's responsibility.

+1

I was about to post the same thing/idea.

Best,

A.

#788 Re: Other Issues » usb pendrive always mounted as read-only » 2023-05-18 20:32:28

Hello:

Panda1100 wrote:

I show you mkfs and kernel ...

Please post terminal output/printout as code.

In the bar above you will see, among other options, 'code' (between brackets).

Click on it and you will get 'code' and '/code' both beween brackets.

Post all the terminal output between 'code' and '/code' (each is between brackets).

Use the 'Preview' button below to check.

Thanks.

Best,

A.

#789 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Interest probing: Devuan Conference » 2023-05-15 20:16:34

Hello:

Welcome.

sakrecoer wrote:

... come in peace from Dyne.org ...

As expected.  8^D

sakrecoer wrote:

... before we go ahead ...

Indeed ...

I'd say that the organisers would have to first have a go at defining conference in terms of how many atendees/speakers actually configure one and would be feasible to get running as such, given the number obtained.

It could well be that you get 200/300 Dev1-ers able | willing | in-condition to attend, mingle and listen/exchange views with two to five speakers.

That is a level of activity that can probably be covered in a morning and an afternoon with maybe another morning for extras.

Just an idea.

Best,

A.

* BTW: I'd love to attend but for me, Stockholm is ~12.537 km away, can't possibly afford it.

#790 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how to completely disable laptop lid detection? [SOLVED] » 2023-05-10 16:15:39

Hello:

Danielsan wrote:

... missing lid in the section he used to disable it:

cat /proc/acpi/wakeup
Device	S-state	  Status   Sysfs node
HDAS	  S3	*disabled  pci:0000:00:0e.0
XHC	  S3	*enabled   pci:0000:00:15.0
XDCI	  S4	*disabled
RP01	  S4	*enabled   pci:0000:00:14.0
PXSX	  S4	*disabled  pci:0000:02:00.0
CNVW	  S4	*disabled

Maybe one of the enabled ones is causing problems.
ie: some conflict.

Danielsan wrote:

Any suggestion?

As I understand it, you have only two options with an actual address and enabled :

XHC	  S3	*enabled   pci:0000:00:15.0
RP01	  S4	*enabled   pci:0000:00:14.0

I think XHC is related to something USB and that RP01 is related to something PCIE.

Your mouse is probably on the USB bus (?).

Try disabling one at a time or both at the same time, reboot and see what happens.
ie: if the lid works properly and the mouse does not freeze any more.

BTW: in my WS, I have all entries in /proc/acpi/wakeup set to disabled, even the ones with no address.  8^°

HTH.

Best,

A.

#791 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan websites need a makeover for Daedalus » 2023-05-10 02:08:16

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Well ...
You know me, always so distracted.  8^D

Best,

A.

#792 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan websites need a makeover for Daedalus » 2023-05-10 01:43:31

Hello:

amaro wrote:

The current color scheme is perfect.

Quite so.
golinux did a truly excellent job.

Can't think of a valid reason to change it.

Just my $0.02, of course.

Best,

A.

#793 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » screen power saver/blanking issues » 2023-05-08 21:25:12

Hello:

bobemoe wrote:

... try to configure the timeout in any, all and combinations of xfce4-power-manager, xscreensaver and xset dpms but cant find a working combination.

I do away with all that, particularly the xfce4-power-manager and any screensaver.

That said, have a read here.

wiki.archlinux.org wrote:

Note:

XScreenSaver and xfce4-power-manager use their own DPMS settings and override xset configuration. See XScreenSaver#DPMS and blanking settings and Xfce#Display blanking for more information.
--- snip ---

As you can see from the quote above, combinations won't work well.

Best,

A.

#794 Re: Off-topic » A warning from the godfather of AI » 2023-05-02 13:10:46

Hello:

swanson wrote:

... bit of a scare actually.

I think the scary part of all this is what is not being said, which is probably without doubt a much larger picture.

To wit, the fantastic amount of money invested to work on/develop AI at this pace is not to see if they can find a cure for cancer or AIDS.
Those would be a by-product, the fallout so to speak.

The truth is that it is all about more money and more power to those who already hold far too much of that in their hands.

eg:
Huge tech corporations such as Microsoft/IBM/Amazon as well as banks and financial corporations are already laying off workers by the thousands as their back-office jobs are being taken over by software.

Interesting times ...

A.

#795 Off-topic » A warning from the godfather of AI » 2023-05-02 10:30:13

Altoid
Replies: 14

Hello:

Hot off the press: ‘Godfather of AI’ Geoffrey Hinton quits Google and warns over dangers of misinformation

Josh Taylor @The Guardian wrote:

The neural network pioneer says dangers of chatbots were ‘quite scary’ and warns they could be exploited by ‘bad actors’

Crikey ...
Who would have ever thought of that?  8^°

Read the piece here.

Best,

A.

#796 Re: Devuan » Non-free firmware in Devuan Daedalus? » 2023-05-01 14:05:20

Hello:

fab161 wrote:

... upstream Debian recently voted for the inclusion of necessary non-free firmware ...
Are there any plans to change ...

The Dev1 forum does have a 'Search' function. 8^)

That said, I think the answer is here.

Best,

A.

#797 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get USB to RCA connection to work? » 2023-04-29 12:09:27

Hello:

amc252 wrote:

... do so by mean of a connecting cable which has a USB plug on one side and 3 RCA video plugs on the other.

Right ...

Do you have such an thing in your posession?
I don't know of any, but ...
... if you do, please tell us about it.

ie:
Plug it in, open a terminal, type lsusb and hit enter.
You should get a printout of all the USB devices plugged into your system.

~$ lsusb
Bus 008 Device 002: ID 0458:6007 KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) 
--- snip ---
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05e3:0626 Genesys Logic, Inc. 
~$ 

Best,

A.

#798 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Unclaimed display controller » 2023-04-24 23:32:57

Hello:

Marjorie wrote:

... posted the output of lshw as an image ...

Indeed it is.

From what I can make out, the entry for *-display UNCLAIMED reads:

product: Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/265 / M340/360 / M440/M445 / 530/535 / 620/625 Mobile]

This AMD card is supported in Linux since 4.2.

See here:

https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id … -1028-0643

The OP should also post the brand/model of his laptop because it seems not all work properly.

Best,

A.

#799 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2023-04-18 14:52:40

Hello:

brday wrote:

... why haven't they included DevuanDog ...

Probably because ...

brday wrote:

... it was discontinued.

Best,

A.

#800 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » A possible login bug » 2023-04-17 20:27:14

Hello:

Anna wrote:

... cannot use the new password to login in tty7

Have you tried the same thing with tty1 to tty6?

I think (as in *seem to recall having read*) that tty7 is different from the rest ie: tty1 to tty6 in that it is usually taken by the Xorg display server.
This would mean that it is in use from the moment you logged in to your system.

Maybe the clue is there?

Best,

A.

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