I did a KDE Plasma install with --no-install-recommends once.

The result was useless.

It still gave me numerous packages I absolutely did not need, and it took me a while to figure out the reason a bunch of things were not working was because several actually useful packages were mis-labelled as recommends.

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It would be nice if package maintainers were required to state why something is recommended/suggested, so that people could make informed decisions about when to include/exclude them, (and maybe get the maintainers to think a bit harder about which level a dependency belongs in).

And to get an idea of how much a lot...

awk '$1=="Size:" {qty+=1;size+=$2}
   ENDFILE {print "qty: "qty,"size: "size,"(~"int(1+size/1024^3) "G)","file:" FILENAME}
   ' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages

No point downloading an entire repository when the most common stuff is in the 4GB "desktop" ISO, and that can be supplemented with other necessary packages in various different ways.

I would possibly start with reading //blends.debian.org/blends

DistroWatch also provides the ability to review and rank a distro and reports the averages of the ratings.

In that ranking, when limited to distros with over 100 reviews, six of the top ten are non-systemd distros:

Although, since ~75% of them have a "Most Frequent Rating" of either 10 or 1, they're clearly not objective/reliable ratings... *shrug*

Start by running inxi --system --bluetooth --extra 3 (or inxi -SExxx) and showing the results here (within [code]..[/code] tags to preserve formatting).

If inxi isn't installed, install it. You may need to be root to get bluetooth info, and you can also try rfkill list as root to confirm the hardware is active.

A quick search reveals the main setting is (should be) a three option radio group, looking something like this:
https://assets-prod.sumo.prod.webservic … a011a8.png

The documentation also shows how to configure the per-site setting, which has an explicit On/Off drop-down:
//support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/https-only-prefs#firefox:linux:fx102

Hoping wont make it happen any quicker.

On the other hand, a polite nudge to the relevant Debian maintainer - asking if the changes made were sufficient, or if there is still more to do - may well have a positive impact.

jue-gen, you quoted my entire post (despite it being the immediately preceding message), but didn't actually respond to any of it...?

You haven't said why you want to do this. ("I did it with Debian" is not a reason.)

Testing and Unstable (whether Sid or Ceres) are not an upgrade, they are development tools for those helping to test potential future versions of packages - i.e. software that has yet to be verified as stable and secure.

If one actually wants to help test, great. Or as a learning tool (as above), fine. Other reasons for running Unstable are probably the result of a misunderstanding and would be better served by running something else, but what else depends on the specific reason(s) for running it.

Anyone with good reason to run Devuan Testing or Devuan Unstable should have an understanding of the mechanism through which Debian becomes Devuan. Anyone who understands that process would also understand the potential additional issues involved, and wouldn't need to ask about differences between Sid and Ceres. (Put another way, to know the differences, learn how Devuan works.)

Heh, I don't recall encountering zerofree before - I wonder if that might have been the missing step that stopped some of my attempts from working.

No, but I have spent a significant amount of time trying various solutions that didn't work, before eventually giving up and converting each partition to its own file, with qemu-image convert.

Browsers frequently hide real errors, and complicate things with caches and cookies; usually better to diagnose things directly.

What does curl -Iv localhost:631 say?

Check with ss -ltnp sport 631 (as sudo/root) whether the server is running?

Anything relevant in the logs - i.e: tail /var/log/cups/*_log ?

Nope, it's because they exactly copied what was written in the other thread $mkdir .themes

Since there is no variable "mkdir" it evaluated to empty string, and thus was removed, leaving ".themes" which Bash tried to execute as a command, and since there isn't such a command, it displayed "command not found".

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The command is mkdir .themes - no dollar - just like you didn't put a dollar for the ls -a command.

Yes, the dollar is the prompt - experienced users know that, but new users don't - so it should be explicitly pointed out, or not used - personally, I'll only include a prompt when displaying both input and output. When offering advice for a specific command to run, it's less confusing to not use it. (Especially when one forgets the space and doesn't spot it whilst proofreading. Or writes one command with it and one without.)

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Charon795:
It's a good practice to always verify what a command does before you enter it. Putting "man $mkdir" into a search engine would have clarified that the correct command is "mkdir" and explained what it does. The best source for Devuan is Debian man pages //manpages.debian.org

A dollar at the start of a command is usually the shell prompt (and thus not intended to be typed), but elsewhere in a command it can be a shell variable, and those can significantly change what a command does.

Something else worth pointing out - when a file or directory name starts with a "." it is considered "hidden" and not always displayed. This is why the need for ls -a instead of just ls. If you use a graphical file manager, it will have an option to toggle hidden resources on/off, which you would want to do if managing this folder with such a tool.

Also, if you prefer to reduce the number of files/directories directly in your home, you might prefer to use .local/share/themes instead of .themes

I guess since I didn't specify a font it varies based on whatever the system's default might be - on the system I tested that the +0+6 meant there was enough space, but obviously other fonts need different numbers.

I'm happy to experiment with some fancier variant(s) with colours/borders/shadows/etc and see what people think - is the swoosh with dots emblem from that page still valid?