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#1476 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Using redshift » 2020-04-01 20:51:32

I don't remember how to get it to work automatically, but I know it needs geoclue-2.0 installed. I disabled that after one day and just use it manually. You can test with something like redshift -o -P -O 4800. If that doesn't work, I'll take a wild guess and say it's the nvidia driver. In that case, check nvidia-settings for a way to change the screen temp.

#1477 Re: Other Issues » [solved] firejail + firefox sound issue » 2020-03-31 16:57:12

Good job! That worked. Commenting 'nogroups' fixed it. I tried commenting 'noroot' but that didn't help.

#1478 Re: Devuan » Beowulf » 2020-03-31 12:18:51

I think it's been ready since December. Read what others are saying:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3372

#1479 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Python3.8 / Testing? » 2020-03-31 12:16:50

$ apt-cache policy python3.8
python3.8:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.8.2-1
  Version table:
     3.8.2-1 50
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages

chimaera won't be any more stable than ceres until debian bullseye goes into freeze. Some of the packages we fork are being made ready for ceres now, and they will migrate into chimaera pretty quickly when they're done.

Check all the usual suspects for desktop power control (shutdown/reboot/hibernate). (policykit, libpam-elogind, upower...)

#1480 Re: Other Issues » [solved] firejail + firefox sound issue » 2020-03-31 11:37:31

Confirmed. I can reproduce this in a beowulf nodbus live iso.

In another live iso with xfce and dbus, sound in firefox-esr works with or without firejail.

I don't really know how to debug this. Maybe something in the firejail profile files would give a clue, or maybe running with strace would show something.

#1481 Re: Installation » Issues with Broken Packages and Updating » 2020-03-30 18:04:59

Disable the cdrom repository and enable the following repos:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main

You can either do it in Synaptic or manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list. Then update/refresh the package cache.

#1482 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Python3.8 / Testing? » 2020-03-29 12:42:55

python3.8 is also in chimaera (our next testing when beowulf goes stable).

ceres=sid=unstable

#1484 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 22:05:52

That's really weird. I've installed refractasnapshot in beowulf a few times. And isolinux is a real package.

$ apt-cache policy isolinux
isolinux:
  Installed: 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1
  Candidate: 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1
  Version table:
 *** 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Make sure you have all three lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt update'

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main

If that isn't the problem, try installing syslinux and isolinux first, then install refractasnapshot.

#1485 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 19:57:05

If there was more to the refractasnapshot message, I'd like to see it. The syslinux dependency is as follows:

syslinux (< 3:6.03)  |  syslinux (>= 3:6.03), syslinux (< 3:6.03) | isolinux (>= 3:6.03)

It's been like that for a few years. (Translation: syslinux older than 6.03, which included isolinux, or both syslinux and isolinux at least version 6.03)

The non-pae kernel is default for those with old machines. The linux-headers package is in the iso, but it does not get installed by default. That's standard for debian and consequently for devuan.

You probably need to remove or purge the pavucontrol package to get rid of the .desktop file.

#1486 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 15:37:20

I burned the 3/25 iso to dvd, booted and got the udev warning. Pressing alt-F2 does nothing. Really nothing. I can't change to another tty. Pressinc ctrl-c seems to stop the warnings.

On another machine, I booted from a usb that has a regular install from a netinstall iso on it. When I got to the desktop, the keyboard was not working. Unplug/replug the keyboard fixed it.

Update: boot dvd on laptop, keyboard doesn't work, trackpad and trackpoint don't work. Can't unplug them.

#1487 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » upgrade python3 on devuan ascii / howto install » 2020-03-27 11:45:18

You probably need to change a symlink or two - the one for /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python3 would be my best guess.

Here's what I have in ascii:

$ ls -l /usr/bin/python*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 24  2017 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 24  2017 /usr/bin/python2 -> python2.7
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3779512 Sep 26  2018 /usr/bin/python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 20  2017 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4751184 Sep 27  2018 /usr/bin/python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4751184 Sep 27  2018 /usr/bin/python3.5m
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      10 Jan 20  2017 /usr/bin/python3m -> python3.5m

It is safer to download the packages and then install them. Do not add debian repos to sources.list or you might break your system.

#1488 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 01:34:31

Fri Mar 27 00:35:43 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:54 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:04 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.

I've been informed that when you get these repeating messages, you can make them stop by switching to tty2 and then back to tty1.

Press
alt-F2 and then alt-F1

#1489 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-26 09:10:19

aus9 wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

snip

apt purge pulseaudio avahi-daemon
apt autoremove

is easy.

Hi

Won't that break wireless printing setup that uses avahi?

Maybe. If you're using avahi, you shouldn't remove it. Same goes for pulseaudio.

#1490 Re: Installation » Ascii to Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-03-26 02:43:27

It's normal for everything to be upgraded when you dist-upgrade from one major release to the next. It's also normal for there to be some new packages. That happens because package dependencies or priorities sometime change, or a source package that creates several binaries might get split up differently, and you'll get new names. (e.g. cryptsetup-run is a new one)

You should update again after installing a new keyring. I didn't think it worked without doing that.

#1491 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 18:14:55

Thanks. It does help to know what won't fix it.

#1492 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 15:21:55

I made another desktop-live iso with changes that I hope will address the udev delays. If anyone who was getting messages like the one below could test the new iso, it would be a big help. Thanks.

"device /dev/sd<x> not available in udev database even after waiting for 1000000 microseconds.<another timeout>"

https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … p-live.iso

sha256sum
822ed7c7d3c456e60ba4041e8b2d43891c6853739b5fdcb16527eb041dbfe21e  devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_2020-03-25_amd64_desktop-live.iso

#1494 Re: Installation » Experiences with Beowulf Beta Desktop Iso » 2020-03-22 19:51:09

You should be able to boot the dvd, go into rescue mode, get a network connection and install grub-efi-amd64. You don't need the -signed version unless you're using secure boot.

All the installation media (including desktop-live) boot with grub on uefi and boot with isolinux on bios. If you can't tell the difference by looking at them, you can test:
Press TAB to edit the boot command in isolinux.
Press e to edit the boot command in grub.
Press ESC to return to the boot menu - this one is the same for both.

If you're already booted into the system, check to see if /sys/firmware/efi exists. If it does, you booted in uefi mode.

#1495 Re: Installation » Experiences with Beowulf Beta Desktop Iso » 2020-03-22 19:00:05

Someone mentioned that grub-efi-amd64 is missing. I think that was on the netinstall iso. I'm downloading the dvd iso now to check it.

Did you install with or without a network mirror?

#1496 Re: Installation » How do I make an encrypted Devuan install with a separate boot? » 2020-03-22 17:49:39

Gparted leaves 1MB free at the beginning by default. If that's not there, it could be the reason for grub failing. Open gparted in the live session to check that it's there.

The log is in the user's home directory on the hard disk.

mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
less /mnt/devuan/refractainstaller.log

#1497 Re: Installation » Devuan on native ZFS-Root » 2020-03-22 15:28:55

I don't know anything about zfs, but I can answer a few of your questions. I did ask someone who uses zfs to take a look at this thread, and he suggests using partitions instead of whole disk for zfs. There is no longer a performance hit for using partitions.

/home separate from the OS partition is a good idea for several reasons. You are less likely to fill up '/' if you keep your user's files separate. It can also make reinstall easier.

swapfile works fine in devuan.
I use the following to make a 256MiB swapfile:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1024 count=262144
mkswap /path/to/swapfile

Change the count if you want a bigger swapfile. Add it to fstab to use it.
Swap is not necessary. You can boot and run the system without it as long as you have enough RAM. (You obviously do have enough.)

I recommend using a separate /boot partition. In ascii, it's possible to have the /boot directory as part of an encrypted root partition, but that doesn't work in beowulf. (Maybe it will by the time you want to upgrade, but that's a guess.)
Note: the /boot partition is not the same as the efi partition.

I've never used parted to make gpt partitions, but I think it should work. Gparted should also work. I usually do it with gdisk.

The desktop-live iso won't give you what you want. It installs a full XFCE desktop. Use one of the Installer isos. Netinstall iso, CD-1 or DVD will work.

#1498 Re: Installation » How do I make an encrypted Devuan install with a separate boot? » 2020-03-22 14:02:27

Is there something unusual about your setup? How did you partition the drive? Gparted? Something else? Is there 1MB free space before the first partition? Does it use gpt partition table? What's in the log around the grub-install command?

#1499 Re: Documentation » Append date and time to .bash_history at start of session » 2020-03-22 13:56:54

Putting it in ~/.bash_profile didn't work for me. I suppose I have to log out of my desktop session and restart it. Putting it in ~/.bashrc works every time I open a new terminal on the desktop. If I put it in /root/.bashrc, it works every time I do 'su' or 'su -' in a terminal.

#1500 Re: Installation » How do I make an encrypted Devuan install with a separate boot? » 2020-03-22 11:37:52

It sounds like you made the right choices for a legacy bios system with msdos partition table. The right place to put the bootloader is /dev/sda, so it should have worked.

What error message did you get? You can check the installation log by booting the live media, mounting the home partition and getting refractainstaller.log from the user's home. The grub section should be about three-quarters of the way down the log. Look for an error message about grub.

The other way to do the install would be to install the grub-pc package before running refractainstaller, but do not let it install the bootloader at that time.  Run dpkg -i /grub-pc*.deb

After installing the package, you can install the system to hard disk, and you will be given a choice of where to put the bootloader. Choose MBR of /dev/sda. When the installer gets to the grub section, you will see a button that says 'Install bootloader' in the same place where you saw 'Copy files' the first time.

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