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#901 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-08 23:00:48
Actually, moc seems to be the lightest way to play audio that I know of.
ffplay is way more cpu usage intensive in my findings... heh.
#902 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2021-04-08 22:59:12
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:andyprough wrote:antiX Libre respin with Linux-libre kernel
You do know the De??an kernels are already de-blobbed, right? The only difference with the "Libre" kernel is that the ability to load non-free firmware has been hobbled but that's irrelevant if you use Devuan without the non-free firmware packages installed.
lsmod shows 41 additional modules with the default kernel in Devuan over the Linux-libre kernel in antiX Libre respin. Including some stuff I don't want such as appletalk and bluetooth. It's mainly just a personal preference though - the Devuan kernel is mostly blob-free enough for me, but I prefer Linux Libre, and I have no need to install non-free firmware on a Libre system so the "hobbling" is irrelevant.
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:And to stay on topic: I've deleted my Debian systems so I'm now just using Arch & Alpine Linux. Alpine is my favourite and I might drop Arch
I'm proud of you!
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:once I get bored of GNOME 40.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit...
The fact anyone likes gnome makes me cringe also. But also, most DE's make me cringe a little bit. They are mostly bloated. Lumina Desktop is the only one I respect currently.
I much prefer my i3-wm on my main laptop. XFCE4 is good if your lazy same with LXDE, but yeah...
That being said, Gnome, MATE and KDE are crap in my opinion. Yes, even MATE. IT looks nice, but its bloated. 
#903 Re: Off-topic » is the subject of that open letter taboo? » 2021-04-01 03:59:14
Feel free to lock if it is taboo now. heh...
#904 Off-topic » is the subject of that open letter taboo? » 2021-04-01 03:57:43
- zapper
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If so, can you make a sticky about it so that people know for sure?
I am not for the letter, don't get me wrong, I think its just an excuse to destroy software freedom.
But yeah, my point stands, is talking about the letter of Stallman to resign taboo?
I have seen two threads die after all about it...
#905 Re: Off-topic » Digital minimalism. How many applications do you use daily » 2021-03-23 23:27:15
web browser = Palemoon or iceweasel-uxp depending on which computer,
mpv for videos
mocp (moc) if you prefer, for audio
pcmanfm for file manager
geany or nano for editor
Focuswriter mainly for writing, libreoffice for other documents,
icedove-uxp for email client (this is strictly on Hyperbola... ) I prefer to use devuan for gaming more.
hexchat for irc
sakura for command line
Those are mainly what I use. I might have other specifics but that sums up most of it.
Unless you speak of wine and emulators such as qemu, dosbox, etc...
Some of this is subject to change, I may try to use ffplay from now on aka... for videos if possible.
#906 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Issues installing VirtualBox on Refracta » 2021-03-23 23:13:54
fsmithred wrote:People use virtualbox because it's easy to figure out how to do things with it.
Have you tried gnome-boxes? It's easier to use than VirtualBox, and virt-manager isn't particularly difficult to use either.
fsmithred wrote:how does one attach a usb drive in qemu?
See https://www.spice-space.org/usbredir.html ← that shows how to configure pass-through for the USB ports themselves. It works for any attached USB devices, including hard drives; gnome-boxes configures it automagically.
EDIT: my fdn guide shows a complete configuration from the command line, including shared folders and USB pass-through.
Virt-manager and gnome-boxes are both also good.
Virt-manager is the easier of the two.
But I think, redhat develops virt-manager, which makes me wary of them now.
I used to like it, but I don't need it now that I know a bit more how to use qemu.
#907 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Issues installing VirtualBox on Refracta » 2021-03-23 23:09:50
People use virtualbox because it's easy to figure out how to do things with it.
So how does one attach a usb drive in qemu? I saw two ways to do it and one way not to do it in the man page, but not really an explanation of how to do it. Anyone have a quick answer so I don't have to spend the time experimenting?
Ah, you want to know how to use a usb drive in qemu?
I can tell you:
qemu-system-x86_64 ~/your.img -cpu kvm64,+nx -enable-kvm -hdb /dev/sdb -m 3072 -soundhw ac97
However, for some virtual machines, you need to do one other thing...
Switch on show tabs on your VM, and go to compat_monitor0
Then type in device_add usb-host or usb-storage...
That's always worked when I used to use winxp vms.
Obviously I keep those detached from the internet.
Quick note though, I don't remember whether its usb-host or usb-storage after device_add
my two cents. Hope this helps.
The extra step however isn't needed for Devuan images from what I remember. Same with Hyperbola, etc...
#908 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-03-23 23:02:53
If you consider moc to be bloated, I wonder what you would think of vlc and smplayer...
Thank you though for the info! Will try it.
#909 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-20 17:44:13
zapper wrote:Isn't there some warning about not making a frankendebian?
Such a warning exists. Here he is
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
And here's a quote
Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:
Debian testing release (currently bullseye)
Debian unstable release (also known as sid)
Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!
Ubuntu PPAs and other repositories created to distribute single applications
I had thought so...
#910 Re: Devuan » Meet Chimaera's deepsea theme » 2021-03-20 09:42:27
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-grub.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-slim-sm.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/lightdm-greeter-sm.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-theme.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-openbox-sm2.png
Finally, have the Chimaera deepsea theme together. Am now getting all the other parts in place. Enjoy your dive to the deepsea floor!
I am surprised, but your theme for some reason is growing on me a little bit.
I dunno why, but it looks better than I thought before.
#911 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-20 09:37:56
Isn't there some warning about not making a frankendebian?
Although, debian and devuan repos are sometimes compatible... but combining even one ubuntu with devuan repos sounds like its just asking for trouble
#912 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Issues installing VirtualBox on Refracta » 2021-03-20 09:35:26
I am a bit confused why people use virtualbox still...
Qemu works fine for most things I thought...
just my two cents.
qemu-system-x86_64 ~/YOUR.img -cpu kvm64,+nx --enable-kvm -m 2048 -soundhw ac97
I do this to make qemu work. It is the better option for many reasons...
Also, virtualbox is a security minefield I have heard.
And I wasn't talking about systemd either.
#913 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Why I have to have a desktop and hope I am wrong. » 2021-03-20 09:28:33
Asus 701.
630mhz celeron M, single core.
512mb ram
Max 30mb/s read speed off disk, more like 1mb/s for random small read/writeThe gaps feel like the music stops for a very brief time before continuing. It's not right!
Hmm, if that's your laptop, no wonder...
I recommend using something extremely lightweight such as i3-wm or equivalent.
Just my two cents...
#914 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2021-03-13 03:44:46
Let's see, pipewire or pulseaudio which is worse...
How about neither...
Since they both are redhat garbage software.
I tire of the corporate ideal to eff things up that work well just to make people depend on software that is bloated and sux...
Smh... greed does wonders... or horrors if you prefer.
#915 Re: Other Issues » Is VirtualBox (or alternative) in the repo? » 2021-03-13 03:40:50
Actually, I neglected to mention, in my config, it seems I don't have that configuration, so maybe idk, I just forgot to write down my actual config... lol...
It was a quick copy and paste, but more or less its the same, - the dumb sudo... 
#916 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-03-13 03:38:11
my guess is slim could be the issue, have you tried this below in .xinitrc or .xsessionrc ? I dont use slim anymore but im sure it calls on .xinitrc to start the session from memory
dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4
Yep, you were absolutely correct...
#917 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2021-02-25 00:54:26
fsmithred wrote:MLEvD, I hope you have better luck. Are you sure you need pulseaudio? Maybe plain alsa would behave better.
I'm doing sychronised multi-room audio with asus eee pc as receiver boxes. Why not rpi? Because eee pc have screens and input attached, and are dust proof, have cases, are portable (own battery!). In addition to music. They also provide wifi, a digital picture frame/show, and anything else you might do with an 800x600 screen.
I read back at the start that one must use pulse or sndio for this avahi magic, alsa is a one horse town. Hopefully I am wrong?
Hack: I *could* just hack the scripts to enforce defaults and policies, but this is something clearly broken compared to the last version of devuan or the contemporary version of debian, so it's possibly an indication of some wider improvement opportunity in the development sphere. It's a very long time since I was a pro tester so forgive my antiquated language please!
Probably, its a debian issue inflicted on devuan.
Though, pulseaudio imo sucks.
Sndio is the best, if you have alsa-sndio and aucatctl installed. 
Otherwise, use alsa
#918 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-25 00:50:36
Now I know why I don't hang out on reddit.
Trust is a fragile thing and not easy to repair.
If you hang around here for a while maybe you will understand why Devuan is so special . . . or maybe not. It's about more than code . . .
Yeah, reddit has quite a bit of systemd loving trolls and people who like new technologies regardless of how insecure or freedom restricting they really are.
Even in the linux community there...
And yes, Devuan has standards that make sense. Debian is moving away from that.
If I added Arch to this mix, I would say they are not K.I.S.S friendly anymore.
Systemd goes against keep it simple stupid logic and stability as well. So, Debian and Arch both have some hypocrites in charge eh...
#919 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-02-18 12:12:05
zapper wrote:is there a way to make elogind behave when I use xfce4?
I'm pretty sure elogind works just fine with Xfce because that's what the live ISO image uses.
Please post my requested terminal output.
1 - user (1000)
Okay, here it is:
Since: Wed 2021-02-17 17:02:46 EST; 14h ago
Leader: 2227 (slim)
Seat: seat0; vc7
Display: :0.0
Remote: user root
Service: slim; type x11; class user
State: active
#920 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-02-17 17:44:42
In LMDE, this is done by the 'debian-system-adjustments' package. Perhaps just borrow it?
I would like to be able to assign ctrl+alt+del to reboot, ctrl+alt+u to shut down immediately, and just be able to type it in a terminal without sudo.
Hmm, is there a way to make elogind behave when I use xfce4?
On my devuan laptop I am too lazy to install lumina-desktop, although maybe I should... heh.
#921 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Why I have to have a desktop and hope I am wrong. » 2021-02-17 17:41:23
zapper wrote:Moc works for me, just use by command mocp
and you get a cli interface.
Do you have a very fast machine? Perhaps your gaps are very small but I assure you, they are there!
Haven't noticed much issues, and mocp works on both my hyperbola gnu/linux install and if it works on that, it will work well on my devuan laptop too. Because the hyperbola one is on a x200, the devuan one is on an x230, and x230 is like twice as fast.
Both have some version of coreboot on them/me disabled.
Tell me, what do those gaps feel like to you? I am curious.
Just to make sure, If you like, I can always test on my thinkpad x230. But first I need to know what I am testing for. ;o
Also, is your comp a 2nd gen intel, 3rd gen intel, arm, etc?
Don't know your specs to know how slow your comp is or how fast it is.
Your call though.
#922 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Why I have to have a desktop and hope I am wrong. » 2021-02-16 23:58:09
Moc works for me, just use by command mocp
and you get a cli interface.
#923 Re: Devuan » The future of 32bit and Devuan? » 2021-02-16 23:54:03
FOSSuser wrote:I also have an Atom (64bit) based computer that has a 32bit bus, so needs a 32bit system, a bit annoying, but as it only has 1 or 2GB ram, it doesn't require a 64bit system.
x101 are great. I have one in the corner busy compressing my 4GB eee pc backup images. Going to try installing efi devuan on it. Actually, I have two :3
This thread died 3+ years ago, congrats.
On a serious note, I do hope 32 bit sticks around on some devices for a while for those who need it.
#924 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-02-16 23:50:55
Most likely a matter of user rights and policies. Maybe related to elogind?
Are you on Beowulf? Which desktop, how do you start? How did you get there? Upgrade from ASCII, fresh install?
rolfie
On the laptop I mentioned, yes. And I installed fresh and... also, I was using xfce4 and went to the option to shutdown from the menu panel mark X.
So, is this something I can disable? It isn't exactly sane or helpful. heh...
elogind sounds like it has some problems then...
#925 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release » 2021-02-16 12:03:05
Does it include a patch package to undo the horrible change in su behaviour introduced in the 3.0 release?
What change is that?
Is su, more messed up then before?
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