Age Verification

slonik · 2026-03-26 13:02:33

So Linux users are expected to go into hiding, rely on encrypted networks on the Dark Net, and accept being social outcasts, while developers who devote their private time to creating programs under the GNU license will be treated as criminals facing massive fines… Maybe that’s what the bureaucrats want?

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Elyon · 2026-03-26 13:39:23

So Linux users are expected to go into hiding, rely on encrypted networks on the Dark Net, and accept being social outcasts, while developers who devote their private time to creating programs under the GNU license will be treated as criminals facing massive fines… Maybe that’s what the bureaucrats want?

That's what corporations want. Bureaucrats are just sold out.

slonik · 2026-03-27 15:43:25

According to the CachyOS forum admin, a ‘radical’ is someone who opposes politicians interfering with the Linux source code

"CachyOS Censors "Radicals" Opposed to Age Verification"
-- The Lunduke Journal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJN6UWZPrzk

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zapper · 2026-03-28 01:44:55

@slonik good to know, I won't recommend CachyOS to anyone now.

This law will likely make kids more targetted not less.

Screw Zuckerberg for this and anyone who supports his bs.

blackhole · 2026-03-28 10:14:30

https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/age-verif … md/26316/6

Looks like one to avoid...

brocashelm · 2026-03-28 11:22:23

Convinced my friend who used CachyOS to switch to Artix after showing him the Bryan Lunduke video. All is good again.

pcalvert · 2026-03-28 12:01:29

I recall recently looking into CachyOS. As soon as I saw that it uses systemd, that was the end of that.

Duke Nukem · 2026-03-28 13:33:26

Screw Zuckerberg for this and anyone who supports his bs.

From my perspective in the UK, while there has been concern about kids getting addicted to Facebook etc, it has been more to do with stopping them seeing p0rn, and also about stopping anonymity on the internet which some politicians have been pushing for a long time. So far the UK has gone in a different direction, by requiring (under the Online Safety Act) p0rn websites to verify your age - that's right, you are supposed to show a shot of your passport, driving licence or give your credit card details to any shady p0rn site out there. Many non-p0rn websites are also asking for age proof because they are frightened of being prosecuted anyway in case a troll posts a NSFW comment and they take the blame for it. The UK government's answer to the security risks of on-line verification is "Just don't look at p0rn then!". A UK YouTuber called Cyber Waffle covers this :
https://youtu.be/eJYYO2EoxJg

However, if the practice of putting your birthday into your OS spreads, like it is now spreading in the USA, I have no doubt the UK and other governments will adopt that method too. As a bonus for them, it will be a backdoor method of adding digital ID without the resistance that was met by a straight-out attempt to introduce it recently.

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oldbook · 2026-03-29 07:50:13

Elyon · 2026-04-15 14:46:12

USA - A new federal bill proposes OS-level age verification, advancing beyond state laws to establish a potential nationwide requirement.

https://linuxiac.com/federal-bill-would … entire-us/

EU - age verification app ready as Europe moves to curb children's social media access

https://www.reuters.com/world/eu-age-ve … 026-04-15/

It seems that we are doomed.

zapper · 2026-04-16 03:35:01

@Elyon hopefully not... I refuse to eat shit.

Kiergan · 2026-04-16 18:48:51

For those interested:

This Is Not the End of Linux Freedom!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5RA4PzrEl0

https://systemdfree.com/#manifesto

It seems more and more people are starting to see that we were right all along.

golinux · 2026-04-16 20:49:58

I wish that was readable . . .

Elyon · 2026-04-18 08:35:00

This is just hilarious! It seems that the new released and highly praised EU Age Verification app got already hacked. And it took less than 2 minutes using only stock android app!

https://cybersecuritynews.com/eus-age-verification-app/

The arrogance of professional revolutionaries from the European Union announcing a groundbreaking application for the Union and the entire WORLD showed what clowns they are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VRRriyDKKk

diziet_sma · 2026-04-18 15:35:29

My cynical side says that's the point. As with end to end encryption, everyone must be pwnable at the hands of the state.

yurimodin · 2026-04-18 22:14:57

My cynical side says that's the point. As with end to end encryption, everyone must be pwnable at the hands of the state.

This is just going to bring back webrings and BBS's, and that's a good thing.

diziet_sma · 2026-04-18 22:45:05

Well yes, but actually no. The US version at least, if bill HR 8250 and its Senatorial equivalent pass, would mandate age verification (i.e. ID verification, not just attestation) at the OS level, presumably shareable with every app and website through some API. This would effectively de-anonymize the Internet for US users.

Whether the bill will pass, not clear. It has bipartisan sponsorship, and like KOSA and numerous other such bills it will probably gather wide bipartisan support despite being very unpopular with the public. KOSA did fail to pass... But now it's been resurrected too, and it has support even from some officials who are normally against such surveillance and censorship measures. And there is no question that it would be signed into law if passed, and probably deemed legal by the Supreme Court as well.

The upshot is that for people in the US, it would allow them to be surveilled online much more easily regardless of their choice of websites or OS platforms. Circumvention wouldn't be impossible (people routinely bypass China's Great Firewall, of course it can be done) but the bar would be considerably higher for most users.

Edit: as far as the European version, pwned is pwned. If a mandatory app is easily hackable, then you can be spied on through it whether you are using Farcebook or Webring.

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Duke Nukem · 2026-04-19 10:38:32

The US version at least, if bill HR 8250 and its Senatorial equivalent pass, would mandate age verification (i.e. ID verification, not just attestation) at the OS level

It is certain that the rest of the world (if they are into age restrictions at all) will adopt the same methodology. Once there is an age field in the OS which any website can interrogate (or even must interrogate), it can and will be employed anywhere. OS makers are not going to produce different versions for different regions, with and without the age field, in fact Microsoft, Google and Apple will welcome this method of extending their snooping of their users. They already have the infrastructure for it, like the now compulsory Windows accounts with the mothership.

Hund · 2026-04-24 21:24:24

Elyon:

This is just hilarious! It seems that the new released and highly praised EU Age Verification app got already hacked. And it took less than 2 minutes using only stock android app!
https://cybersecuritynews.com/eus-age-verification-app/
The arrogance of professional revolutionaries from the European Union announcing a groundbreaking application for the Union and the entire WORLD showed what clowns they are!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VRRriyDKKk

They haven't released any app to begin with. They have a "reference implementation of the Age Verification solution" that you can build yourself for Android and iOS if you're interested in making a proper solution yourself.

This white-label application is a reference implementation of the Age Verification solution that should be customised before publishing it. The current version is not feature complete and will require further integration work before production deployment.

https://github.com/eu-digital-identity- … -wallet-ui
https://github.com/eu-digital-identity- … -wallet-ui

But hey, who cares about the facts these days anyway. It seems to be more important to write articles that generate clicks and money.

mmaglis · Yesterday 21:08:52

Thinking the consequences of these Orwellian laws to the free software freedoms:

Honoring the GPL, you can create surveillance free software, but you are then braking the law.
Honoring the surveillance law, you brake the GPL license agreement.

Now, I am not a lawyer, but it looks that these surveillance laws are making the GPL license and thus free software, illegal.

Update. On second thought of the above:

Using any system without restrictions is illegal in the jurisdiction of these laws.
Now only age, next ID, bio-metric, etc, verification.
Now minor sensitive sites, next any sites declared not suitable for you or plain illegal.
For now you are allowed to build and run an unrestricted system only for yourself. Isolated from the internet.
Next, you will only be able to illegally smuggle in computing parts capable of allowing free software.
Now you can establish a free ¨dark¨net. Later?

FSF will sue anyone braking the GPL.
Any restrictions developed in a free software system to comply with these laws, brakes the GPL and cannot be distributed as free software.
But these are likely going to be open source software!
But are they free software?

What is then the point of developing such open source freedom restricting software?
Only with these law compliant non-free systems you will be allowed to run free software in a restricted mode (LOL).
For personal use only, IF you ¨choose¨ to and never exercise your GPL freedoms.

So this is what it has always been.
A battle for freedom.

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golinux · Yesterday 21:16:14

Isn't that the point of it? The end of anonymity and autonomous freedom.

zapper · Today 04:26:05

@golinux they won't be satisfied it seems till we have zero freedom of any kind.

I think this is why some people on mastodon, say "Eat the rich"

Or think violence is needed to deal with them.

It no doubt is the wrong way, but I wonder if there is even a right way at this point.

This disturbs me greatly.

blackhole · Today 13:36:19

Historically, the oppressor, the despot, the tyrant, the dictatorship of the elites, has only ever been brought down by armed struggle. That hasn't changed. What has changed is how they remain in power under the illusion of democracy. While the proletariat sit by and do nothing, the ruling classes will continue to exploit them and grind them under foot. It won't happen in my lifetime, but eventually they will see the super rich, megalomaniac, psychopaths and perverts who rule over us for what they really are and it will explode. Hopefully in these times of doublespeak and hypocrisy, unjust wars and double standards, they are just beginning to awaken.

Ron · Today 14:58:28

Would you just stop with your socialist politics for a day, please. There are plenty of left-wing politicians behind these age verification laws. I mean, isn't California one of the US states pushing for it? They're run by the type you like.

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