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recklessswing

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Registered: 2020-12-18

Posts: 67  

Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Do we still hate systemd in 2023? Maybe they have fixed all those things for all those years, didn't they?

Camtaf

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Registered: 2019-11-19

Posts: 346  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Waste of time asking that here!!!

We are here because we want nothing to do with systemd - Debian's biggest mistake was to try & force it onto its users, that's why Devuan exists.

soren

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Registered: 2023-04-30

Posts: 59  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Do we still hate systemd in 2023? Maybe they have fixed all those things for all those years, didn't they?

If systemd still runs as process id 1, im calling that init "not fixed".

stopAI

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Registered: 2023-04-04

Posts: 52  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

This malware, called "systemd" added new feature:
A new "soft-reboot" mechanism has been added to the service manager. A "soft reboot" is similar to a regular reboot, except that it affects userspace only: the service manager shuts down any running   services and other units, then optionally switches into a new root  file system (mounted to /run/nextroot/).

czeekaj

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Registered: 2019-06-12

Posts: 111  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Lenart now works at microsoft.

Make up your mind on that.

Last edited by czeekaj (2023-08-31 07:41:52)

Dutch_Master

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Registered: 2018-05-31

Posts: 262  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Systemd still does NOT adhere to core *nix principles:

Build a tool for a single task, make it perform that task to perfection. It does NOT do other tasks as that compromises the original task execution.

Ron

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Registered: 2018-04-22

Posts: 413  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

If it was bad eleven years ago then it's still bad today. Probably even worse.

Segfault

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Registered: 2017-02-10

Posts: 14  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Systemd still does NOT adhere to core *nix principles:

Build a tool for a single task, make it perform that task to perfection. It does NOT do other tasks as that compromises the original task execution.

Yea, as promised systemd is fully modular and anyone can choose what functionality they want ... oh wait ...

GlennW

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Registered: 2019-07-18

Posts: 383  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

...imho, it's just M$ hobbling the competition.

swanson

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Registered: 2020-04-22

Posts: 32  

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2023?

Yes it's bad and it has even gotten worse over the years. Gobbling up more and more features. A big blob.