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#26 2023-02-20 21:23:10

jue-gen
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

Oh, what I just found is quite interesting in this context after all (it's in German, but the charts are probably globally understandable):
https://gnulinux.ch/ressourcenverbrauch … umgebungen
Addendum: I missed an English source, it's here:
https://itvision.altervista.org/linux-d … usage.html

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#27 2023-02-20 21:48:55

jue-gen
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

golinux wrote:

Do you know about Project Gemini? Produces sane web pages . . .

Some time ago I heard about it. Yes, that is interesting ...

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#28 2023-02-21 09:50:10

Camtaf
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

I've always favoured Window Managers over Desktop Environents.... wink

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#29 2023-02-21 15:58:29

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Re: Increasing need for RAM

jue-gen wrote:

Unfortunately, nobody writes HTML in the editor these days.

I'm pretty sure that a few people in this very forum still do. And I'm one of those smile

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#30 2023-02-21 16:50:42

golinux
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

PedroReina wrote:
jue-gen wrote:

Unfortunately, nobody writes HTML in the editor these days.

I'm pretty sure that a few people in this very forum still do. And I'm one of those smile

Indeed . . . devuan.org was crafted from scratch by hellekin. It has gone through some changes but that code is mostly still in use and I always created my sites in a text editor too.

[edit] There was a time when exploring the creative possibilities of html and css was a "thing":

http://www.csszengarden.com/

The only rule is:

"You may modify the style sheet in any way you wish, but not the HTML."

Do take a tour through their gallery . . . though it seems a bit broken atm . . .

[edit2] Another interesting option to add to a site created in a text editor is  Flat Press which use to be an no-database version of wordpress. Have no idea where it's gone since I last used it.

Sorry for the OT, folks . . .

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#31 2023-02-22 06:42:17

jue-gen
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

PedroReina wrote:
jue-gen wrote:

Unfortunately, nobody writes HTML in the editor these days.

I'm pretty sure that a few people in this very forum still do. And I'm one of those smile

Ahhh, that feels good ... 👍

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#32 2023-02-22 07:00:04

jue-gen
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

golinux wrote:

... "You may modify the style sheet in any way you wish, but not the HTML." ...

Yes, and a clean HTML code is very clear. Errors are quickly detected.
You can play creatively with the style sheet. But for some things, e.g. scientific texts, you don't even need a style sheet. For me, this is currently the most economical and practical way to store texts (including links).

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#33 2023-03-31 03:51:00

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Re: Increasing need for RAM

Going back to the subject line....

I have to use color-management by default with xfce4.

The ps output for chinaera:

colord  1777  0.1  0.1  239288   14896 ?  Sl  10:16   0:00 /usr/libexec/colord

and for daedalus:

colord  2260  0.6  1.4  341496  116452 ?  Sl  09:57  0:00 /usr/libexec/colord

colord_1.4.6 claims to require 7.8 times more Resident Memory as colord_1.4.5. AFAIK, nothing major has been added/incorporated which would justify this substanially encreased resident memory requirement.

This makes the 1.4.6 version the top-contender for the most memory-hungry daemon.

Soon we need 32Gig just to run a DE alone. wink

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#34 2023-03-31 08:14:34

steve_v
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Re: Increasing need for RAM

$ cat /etc/devuan_version ; free -m
chimaera
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          128887      102819       21226          61        4841       24548
Swap:          16383         179       16204

And this box doesn't even run a GUI tongue

I will never understand this constant obsessing over memory, it's like some kind of religion here.


Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Four times is Official GNOME Policy.

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#35 2023-03-31 13:14:42

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Re: Increasing need for RAM

fred43 wrote:

colord_1.4.6 claims to require 7.8 times more Resident Memory as colord_1.4.5. AFAIK, nothing major has been added/incorporated which would justify this substanially encreased resident memory requirement.

It's Gnome software, isn't that enough to explain it...? ;)
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Since there are only 16 commits between "Release colord 1.4.5" and "Release colord 1.4.5" [sic], if someone were so inclined they could use git bisect to identify what commit might have changed things.

Though there are also several "trivial: fix a small memory leak ..." commits made in April last year, not yet in a release, so perhaps those are relevant.

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