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#1 2021-10-08 15:08:12

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It's a sad day . . .

Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.  Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . . 

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#2 2021-10-08 15:44:00

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

golinux wrote:

Not quite sure what that says about Devuan

It is so awesome that no support threads are required.

But hey, it's not just the devs — the users obviously know what they're doing as well :-)


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#3 2021-10-08 17:53:39

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

@HoaS . . . half empty or half full?  That is the question . . .

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#4 2021-10-08 21:25:46

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

What size is the glass then?

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#5 2021-10-08 22:11:47

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Perhaps it is also worth knowing what the glass contains...


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#6 2021-10-08 23:07:45

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

golinux wrote:

Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.  Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . . 

Troll appreciation thread

Fight for the Plasma Desktop Cube

Palemoon drama, has gotten bad

Music

Show your desktop (rebooted)

Just to be clear, that was not my intention whatsoever...

Although, I didn't comment on the last two... tongue

Although, the third one has been derailed a bit...

On further inspeection it seems I didn't comment on the 2nd one today either... lol.

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#7 2021-10-08 23:13:11

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

zapper wrote:

Just to be clear, that was not my intention whatsoever...

No one said it was.

Please take note of appropriately trimmed post.  smile

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#8 2021-10-08 23:24:21

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

golinux wrote:

Please take note of appropriately trimmed post.  smile

Point taken...

Either way, I decided to respond in a different thread if that helps,

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I am hopeful I was at least somewhat on topic.

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#9 2021-10-09 09:02:36

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Well, Chimaera seems to be pretty stable, so I'm guessing, nobody has much to say really.... big_smile

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#10 2021-10-09 10:33:44

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

I can't said anything bad about testing/daedalus either.

Head_on_a_Stick has a point here.

Off-topic is a lovely place to stick up.


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#11 2021-10-09 10:53:12

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Camtaf wrote:

Well, Chimaera seems to be pretty stable, so I'm guessing, nobody has much to say really.... big_smile

Ive been using chimaera all year, stable for me too.

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#12 2021-10-09 12:41:55

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .

Indeed ...

I'd add that there are 10 pages of unanswered posts to which no one had anything to say.
The last two pages being from this year.

Best,

A.

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#13 2021-10-09 23:06:55

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

hevidevi wrote:

Ive been using chimaera all year, stable for me too.

Same here. In fact it is so stable that after couple tests I made a bold move and switched main production machine to daedalus.
So far the only thing that borked itself were old AMDGPU-PRO drivers (20.40) which I don't need that bad as of now. Still waiting for 5.14 kernel with RT patch, so I can try to install newer versions.

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#14 2021-10-09 23:11:40

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

uther wrote:

AMDGPU-PRO drivers

Don't use those, the open source amdgpu driver outperforms it for almost all tasks.

EDIT: I've got a PRO video chip and I don't use the PRO drivers.

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#15 2021-10-09 23:13:56

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Open drivers don't have OpenCL support. And I need that.
Also I have installed only OpenCL parts of AMDGPU-PRO. Display is handled by mesa, and indeed it's great.

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#16 2021-10-10 02:32:17

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

uther wrote:

Open drivers don't have OpenCL support. And I need that.
Also I have installed only OpenCL parts of AMDGPU-PRO. Display is handled by mesa, and indeed it's great.

You have perked my curiosity, what do you need opencl for and/or the proprietary blob for? I am curious.

If you don't want or feel like telling me though, feel free to tell me.

It just sounds odd to me, given that those blobs are like mystery software.

hmm

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#17 2021-10-10 09:36:39

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

GPU rendering in Blender require OpenCL drivers if you have AMD GPU, otherwise Blender won't see your card at all.
However with recent Cycles rewrite AMD will have completly different backend (HIP) and OpenCL was dropped. We (Blender users) still don't know what drivers we will need or what hardware will be supported, as HIP implementation isn't finished.


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#18 2021-10-10 17:37:19

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

uther wrote:

GPU rendering in Blender require OpenCL drivers if you have AMD GPU, otherwise Blender won't see your card at all.
However with recent Cycles rewrite AMD will have completly different backend (HIP) and OpenCL was dropped. We (Blender users) still don't know what drivers we will need or what hardware will be supported, as HIP implementation isn't finished.

So blender doesn't work with open source drivers... well okay.

That's a shame, but meh, it is what it is eh, at least for now.


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#19 2021-10-10 18:59:29

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

zapper wrote:

blender doesn't work with open source drivers

Blender works fine with open source drivers but it can only use CPU rendering. The proprietary drivers are needed for rendering on the GPU. It's the only thing the open source drivers can't do.

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#20 2021-10-10 20:27:46

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

@zapper Blender's interface, viewport and pretty much all that is displayed on a screen is OpenGL based. That works fine on mesa drivers! Most functions require CPU compute to perform operation on data, and the GPU is used in couple places to accelerate that compute side - like rendering final image/frame. OpenCL drivers are needed to enable this on AMD hardware. Do not mistake display rendering in a form of pushing frames to the display render buffer on a GPU to be passed on screen with rendering of the final product like image or animation that you export and save on a disc.

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#21 2021-10-11 02:04:34

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

golinux wrote:

Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.  Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . . 

Troll appreciation thread

Fight for the Plasma Desktop Cube

Palemoon drama, has gotten bad

Music

Show your desktop (rebooted)

Okay...

You have forced me into this; therefore, I will give my input (not that my input matters).

Here it is...

-->  LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Best topic I've seen in a while! big_smile

As to Blender. I spent a lot of time learning how to use it on OpenBSD in order to use its video editing capabilities. After finally "getting it", OpenBSD added Shotcut to their repos (which is my preferred video editor). neutral   big_smile   tongue


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#22 2021-10-11 02:36:44

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

MiyoLinux wrote:
golinux wrote:

Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.  Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .  [snip]

Okay...

You have forced me into this; therefore, I will give my input (not that my input matters).

Here it is...

-->  LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Best topic I've seen in a while! big_smile

@Miyo . . . your input always matters to me.  You dropping into our little would always makes me smile.  smile

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#23 2021-10-23 02:21:21

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Re: It's a sad day . . .

Blender works really well in Linux if you use Nvidia graphics card. 

I don't have any good experiences with AMD graphics card. To build a graphics workstation two years ago, I bought two brand new AMD graphics card. After spending a full week of troubleshooting instability issue of the AMD graphics card, I had to return them to the seller.  I bought two used Nvidia graphics card on eBay for the graphics workstation.

Rendering 3D models requires decent graphics card for GPU computing.

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