Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

geki · 2019-04-07 09:02:58

Hi all,

just checked pkginfo.devuan.org and it is truely missing. Anyone got any indeas?

Last edited by geki (2019-04-07 09:04:32)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-07 10:09:46

The synaptic package was removed from the Debian buster repositories because it doesn't work under a Wayland session in GNOME:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=818366

As beowulf is derived from buster then it has been removed from there as well.

Try this for a replacement:

# apt install aptitude
# aptitude -u

Ncurses ftw!

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-04-07 10:10:07)

golinux · 2019-04-07 10:20:08

I'm sure that it will eventually return. Be patient . . .

ChuangTzu · 2019-04-07 16:53:37

I'm sure it will be corrected, ncurses aptitude is good (compliments HOAS), if you are not anathema towards KDE programs then muon is a nice alternative to synaptic.

https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)

https://packages.debian.org/buster/muon
https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show … ent=137507

Last edited by ChuangTzu (2019-04-07 16:57:04)

ToxicExMachina · 2019-04-07 19:11:47

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The synaptic package was removed from the Debian buster repositories because it doesn't work under a Wayland session in GNOME:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=818366

Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers. Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-07 19:16:46

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers.

You might want to read this blog post:

https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/Wayl … unked.html

Drew DeVault is the author of sway, I think he knows what he's talking about

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.

Well it certainly doesn't make much sense in Devuan, I think golinux is right and we'll see it back at some point.

Not that I would miss it...

ToxicExMachina · 2019-04-07 19:37:21

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

ToxicExMachina wrote:
Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers.
You might want to read this blog post:
https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/Wayl … unked.html
Drew DeVault is the author of sway, I think he knows what he's talking about

No, he don't. Most of those "misconceptions" are fictional conclusions suitable for "debunking". I can tell a lot about wayland and X11. However, for this topic it's enoung to mention very demonstrative fact: 10 years of development without result. So no, it's wrong to remove a package because it doesn't work with wayland. According to that argument much more packages should be removed because even with XWayland not everything works properly.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

ToxicExMachina wrote:
Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.
Well it certainly doesn't make much sense in Devuan, I think golinux is right and we'll see it back at some point.
Not that I would miss it...

I hope so.

geki · 2019-04-07 19:49:19

Looks like it keeps out of debian as long as they have wayland as default. See:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =818366#45

And the synaptic bugreport - the developer asks for help refactoring due to being short on spare time.

https://github.com/mvo5/synaptic/issues … -357439865

Anyone here interested in packaging it or help upstream? Guess I use aptitude for now, if I need to; not so often luckily.

stanz · 2019-04-10 05:34:05

ChuangTzu wrote:

I'm sure it will be corrected, ncurses aptitude is good (compliments HOAS), if you are not anathema towards KDE programs then muon is a nice alternative to synaptic.

I hope it will stick around...I kinda grew-up with synaptic - [sniffle..]
That muon reminds me of bsd's pkg gui...but, naaa - KDE programs...nadda for me

Guess it'll fade away...like allot - of package description, are...fading...disappearing...

Last edited by stanz (2019-04-12 01:49:23)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-20 09:19:03

The package is back in Debian buster with a new error message for Wayland users and an added dependency on zenity:

https://packages.debian.org/source/buster/synaptic

I presume it will be added to beowulf soon.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-04-20 09:19:42)

MiyoLinux · 2019-04-20 14:10:39

I can confirm that Synaptic is back in Debian Buster/Testing...not that I would have first-hand knowledge or anything like that.

AntoFox · 2019-04-20 18:58:36

C'mon guys just a little analisys to fix and install it

https://pasteboard.co/Ib33sTY.png

Last edited by AntoFox (2019-04-20 18:58:50)

MiyoLinux · 2019-04-20 19:21:25

Well...I was temporarily upgrading to sid/ceres to get synaptic in testing/beowulf. That's my analysis, and I'm stickin' to it!

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