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#1 2019-04-07 09:02:58

geki
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Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

Hi all,

just checked pkginfo.devuan.org and it is truely missing. Anyone got any indeas?

Last edited by geki (2019-04-07 09:04:32)

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#2 2019-04-07 10:09:46

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

The synaptic package was removed from the Debian buster repositories because it doesn't work under a Wayland session in GNOME:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=818366

As beowulf is derived from buster then it has been removed from there as well.

Try this for a replacement:

# apt install aptitude
# aptitude -u

Ncurses ftw!

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-04-07 10:10:07)


antifa ftw!

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#3 2019-04-07 10:20:08

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

I'm sure that it will eventually return.  Be patient . . .

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#4 2019-04-07 16:53:37

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

I'm sure it will be corrected, ncurses aptitude is good (compliments HOAS), if you are not anathema towards KDE programs then muon is a nice alternative to synaptic. 

https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)

https://packages.debian.org/buster/muon
https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show … ent=137507

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#5 2019-04-07 19:11:47

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The synaptic package was removed from the Debian buster repositories because it doesn't work under a Wayland session in GNOME:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=818366

Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers. Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.

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#6 2019-04-07 19:16:46

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers.

You might want to read this blog post:

https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/Wayl … unked.html

Drew DeVault is the author of sway, I think he knows what he's talking about smile

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.

Well it certainly doesn't make much sense in Devuan, I think golinux is right and we'll see it back at some point.

Not that I would miss it...


antifa ftw!

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#7 2019-04-07 19:37:21

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
ToxicExMachina wrote:

Wayland is futureless non-working garbage made by incompetent wannabe-programmers.

You might want to read this blog post:

https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/Wayl … unked.html

Drew DeVault is the author of sway, I think he knows what he's talking about smile

No, he don't. Most of those "misconceptions" are fictional conclusions suitable for "debunking". I can tell a lot about wayland and X11. However, for this topic it's enoung to mention very demonstrative fact: 10 years of development without result. So no, it's wrong to remove a package because it doesn't work with wayland. According to that argument much more packages should be removed because even with XWayland not everything works properly.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
ToxicExMachina wrote:

Only idiot can remove working package in favor of wayland.

Well it certainly doesn't make much sense in Devuan, I think golinux is right and we'll see it back at some point.

Not that I would miss it...

I hope so.

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#8 2019-04-07 19:49:19

geki
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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

Looks like it keeps out of debian as long as they have wayland as default. See:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =818366#45

And the synaptic bugreport - the developer asks for help refactoring due to being short on spare time.

https://github.com/mvo5/synaptic/issues … -357439865

Anyone here interested in packaging it or help upstream? Guess I use aptitude for now, if I need to; not so often luckily.

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#9 2019-04-10 05:34:05

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

ChuangTzu wrote:

I'm sure it will be corrected, ncurses aptitude is good (compliments HOAS), if you are not anathema towards KDE programs then muon is a nice alternative to synaptic.

I hope it will stick around...I kinda grew-up with synaptic - [sniffle..]
That muon reminds me of bsd's pkg gui...but, naaa - KDE programs...nadda for me tongue

Guess it'll fade away...like allot - of package description, are...fading...disappearing...

Last edited by stanz (2019-04-12 01:49:23)


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#10 2019-04-20 09:19:03

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

The package is back in Debian buster with a new error message for Wayland users and an added dependency on zenity:

https://packages.debian.org/source/buster/synaptic

I presume it will be added to beowulf soon.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-04-20 09:19:42)


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#11 2019-04-20 14:10:39

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

I can confirm that Synaptic is back in Debian Buster/Testing...not that I would have first-hand knowledge or anything like that. tongue


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#12 2019-04-20 18:58:36

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

C'mon guys just a little analisys to fix and install it smile


https://pasteboard.co/Ib33sTY.png

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#13 2019-04-20 19:21:25

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Re: Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres

Well...I was temporarily upgrading to sid/ceres to get synaptic in testing/beowulf. That's my analysis, and I'm stickin' to it! smile  tongue


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