@greenjeans also screw redhat above that x1000 for infecting linux with all sorts of bloated frameworks that no one should want or need.

depends what you consider garbage.

I consider minimal yet easy to use to be non-garbage which if so would mean console-tdm which isn't in debian repos to my knowledge.

But if you mean easy and user friendly, something like lxdm or lightdm or slim might fit.

Depends on which works best right now.

I honestly have no clue. Stuff breaks sometimes with upgrades in annoying yet minor ways.

I have however had no problem with lxdm usually and sometimes slim is good.

@fsmithred sadly then I can't use it then.

I already can do that with a reboot.

I just plug in the usb audio in first and then it naturally loads when I boot up.

Want to do it without rebooting aka the swap.

@ralph.ronnquist

Not sure what you mean by that refer element.

just sayin

EDIT:

I tried what he suggested and something didn't work, I don't know why.

EDIT: again, I see what happened.

I should mention my previous setup here. It also uses sndio as well and alsa-sndio:

#
# ALSA
#

# ALSA settings by default
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 0
defaults.pcm.subdevice -1
defaults.rawmidi.card 0
defaults.rawmidi.device 0
defaults.rawmidi.subdevice -1
defaults.hwdep.card 0
defaults.hwdep.device 0
defaults.timer.card 0
defaults.timer.device 0
defaults.timer.subdevice 0

#
# sndio on ALSA (alsa-sndio)
#

# Uncomment it to use sndio sound server on PCM (this requires alsa-sndio)
pcm.default sndio

# sndio PCM settings by default
defaults.pcm.sndio.device snd/0
defaults.pcm.sndio.volume 127
#defaults.pcm.sndio.playback.device snd/0
#defaults.pcm.sndio.playback.volume 127
#defaults.pcm.sndio.capture.device snd/0

# Uncomment it to use sndio sound server on RawMIDI (this requires alsa-sndio)
#rawmidi.default sndio

# sndio RawMIDI settings by default
defaults.rawmidi.sndio.device midi/0

I need all of this to stay there probably.

and the 0s to switch to 1s probably.

In this setup I notice 0 is the one that plays and 1 is the one tat doesn't.

Whichever is set to sound card 0 in alsamixer is the one that plays. If this helps let me know.

@ron blackhole is right, there is no left in the US.

If you want socialist, go to European countries like Sweden or Denmark

There's also something Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre devs found called sx

It does what startx does but is even more minimal and I have used it, no issues once its all set up. Then you just copy paste a backup in case when you reinstall your os, etc...

@blackhole @goat

I have to agree it probably is...

@ralph.ronnquist it is kind of like preaching to the choir...

@brocashelm

I made an issue on xlibre anyhow since I posted this for xlibre to add unveil & pledge functions to xlibre like xenocara has but with linux.

We will see how that goes I guess.

But yeah, point being, you might have a point.

EDIT accidentally clicked solved, but w/e it doesn't matter too much.

Still using Hyperbola on some of my comps and Devuan on my gaming one