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#1 2026-04-28 09:53:05

gfp
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GENUEN starting GUI

in starting Genuen I got only the terminal without GUI
after entering:

startx

it opened the last Cinnamon session.

What command would be to start a wayland session?

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#2 2026-04-28 13:47:47

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

Maybe you have various display managers installed (e.g. lightdm and sddm). You should define the one you want in /etc/X11/default-display-manager to end up at the login dm.


If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#3 2026-04-29 13:50:44

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
I have got only one installed.

/usr/sbin/lightdm

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#4 2026-04-29 14:21:26

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

again starting Genuen stopped at the terminal.
I press ENTER
then I have to enter my user name with password
after that I have to

startx

in order to start the GUI
where again I have to enter my user name and password.

in the auth.log file:

may be here is something visible

2026-04-29T16:02:43.397405+02:00 Tuxedo elogind[5015]: New seat seat0.
2026-04-29T16:02:43.430647+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431456+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /run/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431673+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Error opening rules directory: Error opening directory “/run/polkit-1/rules.d”: No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431827+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /usr/local/share/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431913+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Error opening rules directory: Error opening directory “/usr/local/share/polkit-1/rules.d”: No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
2026-04-29T16:02:43.432135+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d

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#5 2026-04-29 14:22:50

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

should I install gdm ?

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#6 2026-04-29 18:38:45

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

Polkitd looks for authorisation rules in several directories, but cannot find them. Polkit simply reports that these optional directories are not present. But this is not a serious issue as long as it manages to load the basic rules.


If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#7 2026-04-30 10:49:56

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

How can I copy or save the messages which come up when starting Genuen?
Where are those messages saved?

in /var/log/ there are many log files.
Which one shows exactly that, which comes up when booting Genuen?

I checked several, but didn't find exactly those which I was looking for.

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#8 2026-04-30 18:54:18

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

in /var/log/boot, but you need to install bootlogd


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#9 2026-04-30 23:28:35

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

bootlogd  is already installed
but the file /var/log/boot  is empty.
It does not record anything until now.

there are several messages that xorg can't start, but I can't recall them by heart. That´s why I want to get those messages.

there are messages in /var/log/syslog:

2026-05-01T01:07:34.694355+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:208): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.694406+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:209): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698272+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:210): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7419-0/" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698307+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:211): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710359+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:212): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710398+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:213): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.822306+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.815:214): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/data/c226:0" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862283+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:215): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862328+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:216): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7420/mounts" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862337+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:217): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7420-0/" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0

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#10 Yesterday 09:39:58

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

there are several messages that xorg can't start

You may want to have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

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#11 Yesterday 14:19:50

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

starting Genuen
..
...
....
starting network connection manager: Network manager
ok: run: dbus: (pid 4990) 1s

those are the last messages
then waiting
still one message about acpi error

and nothing more

It can't start Xorg.

the first messages in the file: /var/olg/Xorg.0.log:

[   124.745]
X.Org X Server 1.21.1.16
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   124.745] Current Operating System: Linux Tuxedo 6.1.0-27-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Gnuinos 6.1.115-1 (2024-11-01) x86_64
[   124.745] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-27-amd64 root=UUID=8921d97a-ed7c-4ea7-b703-25e7d8c31647 ro quiet
[   124.745] xorg-server 2:21.1.16-1.3+deb13u1devuan1 (https://www.devuan.org/os/community)
[   124.745] Current version of pixman: 0.44.0
[   124.745]     Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   124.745] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   124.746] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Sat May  2 16:04:33 2026
[   124.746] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[   124.747] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   124.747] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.

How can I may be reinstall XOrg ...  to get the GUI?

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#12 Today 00:25:32

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

This does not show any error.

You could run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)" and see what that digs up.

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#13 Today 04:24:02

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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

There's also something Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre devs found called sx

It does what startx does but is even more minimal and I have used it, no issues once its all set up. Then you just copy paste a backup in case when you reinstall your os, etc...


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