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#1276 Re: Installation » The best init system » 2022-03-15 05:08:28

This thread has reached a new and embarrassing low in Devuan history . . . grow up . . .

#1277 Re: Other Issues » How can we get Parent release name in devuan , for example Bullseye? » 2022-03-14 18:09:24

xinomilo wrote:

hm, chimaera should be daedalus, no?

Yes.  bookworm will be excalibur

#1278 Re: Installation » The best init system » 2022-03-14 15:57:44

Don'cha know that the kiddies have to be stoopiD . . .

#1279 Re: Off-topic » Colour of the future? » 2022-03-12 03:42:36

@zephyr . . . Does this suit you? Presentation is framed because the light BG kills it.

sapphire reversed

#1280 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] I installed gnome, now I can't use XFCE » 2022-03-11 04:30:03

andyprough wrote:

Does Gnome even run on Devuan?

Yes.

#1281 Re: Installation » Multi-DVD installation sets » 2022-03-08 15:57:43

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

There is also the debian-cd package:

If you go that route you'll need to be aware of the banned packages list or suffer the consequences.

#1282 Re: Installation » Multi-DVD installation sets » 2022-03-07 23:08:21

This wouldn't work for you?

server (~670 MB): CD1 of a 4 CD set that allows for a complete off-line server/minimal installation. The remaining CDs offer several desktop choices and a limited selection of additional software.

    CD2: Xfce (installable from tasksel) and LXDE.
    CD3: MATE (installable from tasksel) and Openbox window manager.
    CD4: Cinnamon (installable from tasksel) but requires CD2 and CD3 to install.

From https://devuan.org/get-devuan

#1283 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-07 17:16:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That's fine golinux, I was just sharing what I was reading :-)

Fair enough . . . smile I don't know how you find time to read so much or why you'd want to.  But that's another conversation . . .

#1284 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-07 17:06:54

@HoaS . . . You should know by now that "Medical Professionals" can kiss my skinny behind.  smile

You weren't around when Trust Us, We're Experts! was written.

And there you have it . . .

[edit] I thought sure that was written in the mid-20th century . . .

#1285 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2022-03-06 23:23:05

andyprough wrote:
golinux wrote:

@andyprough . . . from the sublime to the ridiculous, eh . . .

We will probably find out in the end that the path to enlightenment was actually through Gorgoroth death metal music all along. Who knew?

Seems you are unaware of the consequences that can come from even an off-the-cuff attempt at humor like that.  But then, it is your life and your choice to squander it as you wish . . .  smile

#1286 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2022-03-06 21:15:33

@andyprough . . . from the sublime to the ridiculous, eh . . .

#1287 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2022-03-06 18:48:24

Thank you Andy for those offerings. I'm sure they will bring comfort to many.

Here's a slightly different perspective and focus.  Monastics from the Abhayagiri Monastery chanting funeral texts that focus on the grinding realities of impermanence and cause and effect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16o2TYpKyQ

A recitation of the Paticcasaṃuppāda (Dependent Origination) starts at about 9:02 with the words:
Avijiāpaccayā sankhārā
Sankhārapaccayā viññānam
. . .

#1288 Re: Documentation » Devuan GNU+Linux Command-line Installation Guide (In progress) » 2022-03-04 22:58:22

k3yw0ow wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

This guide recommends you the use of balenaEtcher or Rufus to write the ISO on a storage media (CD/DVD/USB).

Debian do not recommend those tools and I have seen quite a few problem threads over at forums.debian.net caused by Rufus not burning images correctly.

The recommended technique is

cp devuan.iso /dev/sdX ; sync

Reference: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html#write-usb

I have never seen that command recommended at Devuan and have always used the dd command. These are the methods recommended on the Devuan website:

Writing an image to a CD/DVD or USB drive

Images can be written to a CD or DVD using wodim.

user@hostname:~$ wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -eject filename.iso

All Devuan ISO images are hybrid ISOs and may be written to a USB drive using dd.

root@hostname:~# dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M && sync

#1289 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-03 15:42:25

hevidevi wrote:
golinux wrote:

Life is not about always doing "well" or saying the right thing. It is about learning and sometimes we step in a big pile. big_smile

hevidevi wrote:

Back to reading about unix me thinks!

Maybe the third time will be the charm, as they say. smile

With all due respect golinux, i am old enough to learn from my mistakes but i dont believe i have made any here in my opinion.

Being unaware is not making a mistake.

I agree and thought my response made that clear.  The point was as you stated above to learn from those experiences and move on . . .

#1290 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-02 21:45:18

hevidevi wrote:

I'm not doing well here am I. Posting antisemtic links and now Tibetan sexual abuse cults!

I had no idea about Chogyam Trungpa "thing".

Life is not about always doing "well" or saying the right thing. It is about learning and sometimes we step in a big pile. big_smile

hevidevi wrote:

Back to reading about unix me thinks!

Maybe the third time will be the charm, as they say. smile

#1291 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-02 19:57:11

hevidevi wrote:

The Essential Pema:Study Guide

I know very little of Pema Chodron or what the Tibetans are about. But I do remember the Chogyam Trungpa "thing" which cemented my resolve to stay far away . . .

The link was just the first when I did a quick search so luck of the draw and no agenda.

#1292 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-02 17:25:38

LU344928 wrote:

Pali was the language of the Vinaya, if I'm not mistaken

The entire Pali Canon (Tipitka) was recorded in Pali but not until about 500 years after the the Buddha's paranibbana. Before then it was passed down via oral tradition.

LU344928 wrote:

. . . and many of the 600 odd rules in there came about as a result of sexual transgressions committed by the Buddha's disciples.

Indeed.  The task is daunting and monks are equally flawed as all humans are.

Thankfully, the monks who dropped into my life . . . I did not seek them . . . they found me . . . were of impeccable character. But that is a whole other story. This path wasn't exactly on my bucket list . . .

#1293 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-03-01 19:01:23

Here's another view of the mind.  One that is over 2500 years old. This is not a "reading" book. It is more of a reference/guide book to understanding experience:
Abhidhammattha Sangaha

Even as skillfully and well documented as these revisions are, it is inevitable that the content will be misunderstood by readers with no knowledge of Pali language or significant internal exploration of the  processes described, so tread lightly and don't embarrass yourself.  smile

FWIW . . . those involved in the revisions of the translation, which were made 30 years ago, were known to me as teachers, mentors and colleagues.  I was asked to review the changes and was surprised and honored to receive a mention of my efforts in the preface.

#1294 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-03-01 16:15:54

amaro wrote:

@golinux
You can check the formatting and let me know if there is a difference compared to previous one.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34963#p34963

Yes, better.  Could you please edit the other one also? I don't like to mess with content of users' posts.

As to the psychobabble . . . sooooo many words to state the obvious.  Not impressed . . .

As long a greed hatred and delusion exist in the mind, bias whether conscious or not, is inevitable. Duh . . .

#1295 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-28 20:06:03

Yes, incoming data is just a springboard to dreams and that is where the real challenge lies. Some experiences are pleasant, greed/attachment arise and the mind seeks more. Some are painful, aversion arises and the mind recoils. Other incoming objects are so uninteresting we fall asleep or frantically seek pleasure to keep the dream alive. Better to just observe the whole contaminated process with detachment.

And an observation . . . the formatting of the text in the original Ruiz quote is producing line breaks.  Would be easier to read if the text could just flow.  However, it does give me an opportunity to note annoyance, so thank you for that . . .  big_smile

#1296 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-28 04:17:31

@amaro . . . What exactly does "state of consciousness" mean to you?

In just a few crude words . . . I understand consciousness to be the receptor of all incoming data whether physical through the 5 physical sense doors or mental.  What we do with that information after contact is where humans get into trouble and start dreaming.  Noting what floats by without following it down a rabbit hole lessens the hold that dreaming has on the mind and brings it closer to NOW which is gone in a nano second (poetic not an actual measurement).

#1297 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-27 00:44:01

Did a 5 minute jump through from beginning to end. Stunning visuals wasted on such silliness, self-indulgence, and fantasy.  Nothing of liberative value there.  Just a celebration of excesses and stereotypes that perpetuate the dream.

#1298 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-26 22:03:18

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Just ordered the latest version of Motorcycle Roadcraft: The Police Rider's Handbook. I got knocked off by a van on Friday and separated my acromioclavicular joint so it looks like I could do with a refresher. My first crash in over 10 years. Dammit.

Oh NOOOooooo!

/me sends HoaS another virtual hug

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

At the moment of impact I really wanted to fall back into the dream but riding is great because it forces you to live in the moment, or at least as close to the moment as our sensorium will allow.

Any form of intense concentration touches NOW.  But that alone does not dispel the dream because the dream will return as soon as that concentration is broken.

#1299 Re: Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-26 21:52:30

andyprough wrote:

The desire to live past one short lifetime is intense, but the price paid is incalculable. The dangerous river of eternity.

Well said, Andy. Those who are suffering hope for a better life. Even those who have a wonderful life want more.  The thirst is insatiable and fuels the cycle.

The error humans make is to assume a transition to the same time, place and species.  Destinations are infinite which makes the prospect even more terrifying.

Unless the mind is very disciplined, it is a roll of the dice.  That is what stopping the dream and practicing to be  here and now is about. Over time the dream fades and there is just now.

I'll have a look at the movie later.

#1300 Off-topic » The Dream » 2022-02-26 19:52:34

golinux
Replies: 11
amaro wrote:

The Four Agreements, Don Miguel Ruiz

"You are dreaming right now in this moment. You are dreaming
              with the brain awake."

              [cut]

Yes.

Our delusion builds mental constructs and they are passed down from generation to generation.

This is samsara.  A prison of our own making. Endless dream after dream.

It is possible to stop dreaming but it is a daunting task and very few manage to escape from the endless cycles of birth and death.

There is no other time but NOW!

Fall into it and let the bottom fall out of the dream !!

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