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#76 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus gnome wayland doesn't work with nvidia » 2023-08-14 16:07:53
Ok Marjorie, I got one question. Does that debian to devuan thing still working: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … owulf.html
I tried it a few days ago but couldn't remove systemd at all. I got a debian system, and I want to try migrating to devuan. But I couldn't on the VM.
#77 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus gnome wayland doesn't work with nvidia » 2023-08-13 21:58:06
Just curious why none helped me yet? If having a working wayland gnome isn't devs target, then it is ok for me. No worries. I will use xorg then.
#78 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus gnome wayland doesn't work with nvidia » 2023-08-08 20:21:39
What I did so far today: I uncommented the WaylandEnable=true line. Also, I commented the lines at /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules, which were these lines:
LABEL="gdm_prefer_xorg"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon PreferredDisplayServer xorg"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_disable_wayland"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon WaylandEnable false"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_end"
Wayland supposedly works(!) but when I click firefox, it seems to be loading but it won't open, and finally will shutdown later. I tried to remove that gdm.rules file, still the same thing.
#79 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » wayland on devuan » 2023-08-08 20:19:39
I also need this, I am running gnome with nvidia 525 driver. I uncommented the WaylandEnable=true line. Also, I commented the lines at /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules, which were these lines:
LABEL="gdm_prefer_xorg"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon PreferredDisplayServer xorg"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_disable_wayland"
#RUN+="/usr/libexec/gdm-runtime-config set daemon WaylandEnable false"
GOTO="gdm_end"
LABEL="gdm_end"
Wayland supposedly works(!) but when I click firefox, it seems to be loading but it won't open, and finally will shutdown later.
#80 Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus gnome wayland doesn't work with nvidia » 2023-08-07 22:19:21
- recklessswing
- Replies: 14
I uncommented the /etc/gdm3/custom.conf WaylandEnable thing, also 61-gdm.rules thing in /usr/blahblah, it simply doesn't exist there. So it must work with wayland right? But no it doesn't work. I use nvidia 525 driver.
It worked when I applied the same things with debian 12. By the way, is nvidia-persistenced important? It doesn't work in devuan properly. I assume it has hard dependency to systemd.
#81 Installation » [SOLVED] Is nvidia-persistenced even neccessary? It fails while installing driv » 2023-08-07 11:24:39
- recklessswing
- Replies: 1
It gives this error. Otherwise driver works perfectly:
Starting NVIDIA Persistence Daemon
nvidia-persistenced failed to initialize. Check syslog for more details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript nvidia-persistenced, action "start" failed.
dpkg: nvidia-persistenced paketi işlenirken sorun yaşandı (--configure):
nvidia-persistenced paketi post-installation betiği kuruldu alt süreci 1 hatalı çıkış kodu ile sona erdi
#82 Re: Off-topic » Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem » 2023-07-29 21:55:27
Usually that's an errant program/service that isn't listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.
Well I am sitting at a cafe for example, I need to go ASAP. I don't wanna wait for some stupid service. How is there not a big backlash to systemd devs for this? I don't get it.
#83 Off-topic » Is systemd still bad in 2023? » 2023-07-29 21:53:53
- recklessswing
- Replies: 14
Do we still hate systemd in 2023? Maybe they have fixed all those things for all those years, didn't they?
#84 Off-topic » Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem » 2023-07-18 21:13:58
- recklessswing
- Replies: 5
You know that sometimes happens that prompts you to wait 3 mins before shutting down the pc for absolutely no reason. Why does it still exists? If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist? This is the sole reason I choose devuan when I can. "But you can close that with some journalctl blah blah command" Fuck that I don't wanna invent some stuff for this shit. I am a noob user I wanna keep it that way. I don't wanna learn commands I will only use once in my life.
#85 Installation » Does sysvinit make you wait for rebooting if NFS was cut off? » 2023-01-07 15:16:11
- recklessswing
- Replies: 2
You know systemd, a USB was put in? Waiting for some stupid shit (1 min 30 seconds/infinite). I frequently connect to NFS, sometimes server gets broken. Then I click reboot, but it won't reboot because of systemd, and this happens on my debian system. Does it also happen with devuan? I am so sick of this...
#86 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] What's the minimum disk space does the most minimalist setup take? » 2023-01-07 15:14:19
recklessswing wrote:I FUCKING DID IT!!! I GOT INTO THE BIOS AND CHANGED BOOT ORDER HECK YESS!! But didn't install to 1GB disk, it's probably die in a year anyway. NAND FLASH what could I expect? So I installed devuan into an SSD in another pc, then put it inside.
Congrats, friend :-)
Sadly couldn't make it under 1 GB. Alpine linux is too alien to me. I'll just use an SSD.
#87 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] What's the minimum disk space does the most minimalist setup take? » 2023-01-03 02:26:21
I FUCKING DID IT!!! I GOT INTO THE BIOS AND CHANGED BOOT ORDER HECK YESS!! But didn't install to 1GB disk, it's probably die in a year anyway. NAND FLASH what could I expect? So I installed devuan into an SSD in another pc, then put it inside.
#88 Installation » [SOLVED] What's the minimum disk space does the most minimalist setup take? » 2023-01-01 02:28:34
- recklessswing
- Replies: 6
I am talking about netinstall. I got a very spesific device, it has a 1GB builtin USB disk. It's an hassle to remove. What if I just install netinstall, no GUI, nothing? How much space will it take?
#89 Installation » What is the point of not enabling hot plug of ethernet devices? » 2022-12-29 22:03:40
- recklessswing
- Replies: 2
Why in the hell netinstall doesn't enable this? This is so primitive. Why not just enable hot plug automatically in netinstall, are we living in 90's? Please tell me.. Just because I unplugged the ethernet cable now I just need to restart it to make networking work again.. Sigh.
#90 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to get devuan 3's XFCE appearance into devuan 4? » 2022-12-27 12:47:31
The default desktop theme is installed with desktop-base but all the old themes from grub to the desktop are available in the repos. You can also get all the pieces at:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics
If you need help finding where to put them just holler . . .
That git link is broken. Can't download anything from there. Btw, wasn't there a dark mode for these themes? And what about pc's that don't currently use devuan? I run debian on one of my laptops and I want this theme pls.
#91 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to get devuan 3's XFCE appearance into devuan 4? » 2022-12-27 00:03:49
I think that's the clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme package. EDIT: and cinnabar-icon-theme.
I found it but after a lot of googling. Wow. This shouldn't be this hard man.
What about icon themes and window options? Where to find those too?
#92 Installation » [SOLVED] How to get devuan 3's XFCE appearance into devuan 4? » 2022-12-26 21:11:22
- recklessswing
- Replies: 10
I liked devuan 3's reddish colors more than this devuan 4. How could I bring those themes and icons back?
#93 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-12-11 19:07:39
You can nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd
Package: systemd
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1Package: *systemd*
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1Package: systemd:i386
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1and than use as many compatible repos as you like. It should be ok. For example I have LMDE chimaera edition))
But if some package from another repo requires systemd as dependency than you are out of luck with this package.
I tried similiar stuff but in the end they failed. Good try though.
#94 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Installing openmediavault on top of devuan » 2022-12-11 19:06:07
I've looked at porting OMV to Devuan a couple times, but the author of OMV has tied the majority of his code directly to systemd behavior.
It will require a fork and a lot of unwinding of hardcoded systemd stuff to get it going.
I think it won't work then. Thanks for info.
#95 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-30 23:17:16
At first I had to enter name and password blind, then the screen was switched to the corresponding output. Then I enabled in slim.conf the sessionstart_cmd with the name of an executable script file, where the same xrandr commands are called. Worked fine on my old Thinkpad.
This would probably work, but can't try. Changed to lightdm already. Works already.
#96 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 20:08:00
For example this was on chroot:
root@pardus:/# apt-get full-upgrade
...
Downloading packages etc.
....
....
Removing: systemd-sysv (247.3-7+deb11u1) ...
dpkg: systemd: some dependency problems blah blah
plymouth depends on this: systemd (>= 232-8~).
libpam-systemd:amd64 depends to this: systemd (= 247.3-7+deb11u1).
libnss-systemd:amd64 depends to this: systemd (= 247.3-7+deb11u1).
Removing: systemd (247.3-7+deb11u1) ...
systemd is the active init system, please switch to another before removing systemd.
dpkg: systemd paketi işlenirken sorun yaşandı (--remove):
systemd paketi pre-removal betiği kuruldu alt süreci 1 hatalı çıkış kodu ile sona erdi
#means systemd pre removal script is installed but sub process returned error code 1
dpkg: çok fazla hata oldu, işlem durduruluyor
#dpkg: too many errors, stopping the process
İşleme sırasında hatalarla karşılaşıldı:
systemd
Çok fazla hatayla karşılaşıldığı için işlem yarıda kesildi.
#Because of too many errors the process is halted.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)#97 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 19:56:33
There are the commands in the links I posted. It used to work but not anymore. Can't remove systemd. Thus it fails. Even though I try to remove it from a chroot.
#98 Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-29 19:33:58
- recklessswing
- Replies: 11
This is an UNOFFICIAL method, that used to work. But not anymore.
EDIT 1: I also tried direct migrate from debian to devuan, that now also doesn't work because of similiar errors? Which is this:https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera
The point is, it's debian but on systemd related packages, it uses devuan repos instead. Rest is debian. But it doesn't work anymore. It says systemd is the init system bla bla, and can't remove it. No matter how you try. Is there a way to override this? Here was a topic I used: https://forum.pardus.org.tr/t/pardusu-nosystemd-hale-getirmek/20676
Don't mind the Turkish, you get the idea I hope. Pardus is another debian based system btw, %100 the same. I tried this with debian before also and it worked. But not anymore it doesn't. At 4. phase it uses live usb and we chroot inside it, and we try to remove systemd. But doesn't work.
Why I do this? Sometimes devuan repos go down for a long time. With this way we use devuan repos only for systemd related packages thus less usage.
#99 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-29 19:23:33
Probably calling xrandr in your .xsession or .xinitrc may help.
Here my example on an older Thinkpad T410S:
xrandr --output VGA-1 --primary xrandr --output LVDS-1 --offBut before simply call xrandr without any parameters, to figure out what the names for your outputs is. In above example VGA-1 is the external monitor and LVDS-1 the laptops own screen.
Sadly this didn't work. I want this to work on slim login screen. I assume this .xinitrc is run when login is complete, so it's useless.
#100 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-29 19:21:48
If you go into the display setting, you should be able to set the external monitor to be the primary.
Bro you don't get it. I am talking about login screen... Not the display screen after the login screen.
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