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#76 Re: Off-topic » Xfce 4.18 at Christmas » 2022-10-03 02:14:29
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Unfortunately Openbox is GTK2 based and GTK2 went EOL some time ago but some people like obsolete software, apparently.
I'm not trying to stir up anything here, but I seem to recall a certain person...whom I won't name...but I might be quoting the unnamed person in this post...also had/has their own Openbox respin? I know, because I tried it.
So, it would appear that some people apparently do like obsolete software and providing it for others to use.
Tee-hee...
You know you can still find the 11.1.0 ISO of SharpBang from last October if your DuckDuckGo-foo is strong enough. Pretty awesome distro if I recall correctly. I might have to spin it up and run the updates now that I'm thinking about it. Too bad that a certain un-named person took down their git repo. And I can't find their web page either. Used to be a lot of amazing bits of wisdom on those pages.
#77 Re: Off-topic » Xfce 4.18 at Christmas » 2022-10-02 01:14:26
found AntiX & enjoyed my stay there, until 'new blood' kept putting more & more into the menus & making it less like it was when I found it
It's easy to forget that Warren Woodford was creating antiX as a minimal Mepis side distro for the first 6 or 7 years of its existence.
#78 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] external NVMe SSD is piggish » 2022-09-22 02:55:22
@andyprough
Wow! Reformatting to EXT4 made an amazing difference. Transfers are at least five times faster. And I'm running 5.18, though there's something amiss about the drivers it provides for my laptop (but that's another story). Thanks for the help.
Awesome!
My experience is that too new of a kernel will often bring in a bunch of regressions with their own driver problems. If you aren't using NTFS any more then you don't need to be post-5.15. Possibly the stock 5.10 Devuan kernel will serve you well. Anyway, best of luck.
#79 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] external NVMe SSD is piggish » 2022-09-19 20:39:09
As soon as I make sufficient backups, I will try your suggestion and reformat the NVMe SSD to EXT4 and recopy the data from the aforementioned backups. I'm running NTFS now, but that's a legacy from Windows systems.
From what I'm reading unless you are using kernel version 5.15 or later you are going to get crappy performance with NTFS. Head_on_a_stick probably knows more about this. But you could try just going with the most recent available kernel as long as it is post-5.15 with the new NTFS3 driver. It's supposed to be much better performance. Prior to NTFS3, I think the drivers were in poor condition and in some cases almost abandoned, and you would get the type of poor responsiveness that you've noticed.
Overall though, you'll probably be better with EXT4. You are already pushing the envelope a bit by running the system from an external drive. No reason not to give it the best available natively supported file system to work with.
#80 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] external NVMe SSD is piggish » 2022-09-19 15:44:24
I ran Devuan on an external NVMe enclosure attached to a USB 3.1 port for about a year recently, and the speed was so good I never really noticed it wasn't an internal drive. I did everything I can think of with it - I ran big VMs, ran multiple VMs, did tons of data transfer. Ran every kind of popular program except Steam (I don't game, so had no reason to try it).
I used the EXT4 file system - make sure you are using a fast file system. Also, sometimes I would plug another USB device into the machine that for some reason would grind the whole USB system nearly to a halt. I've never figured out why, but I had one 128GB Samsung thumb drive that used to bring the system to its knees. Try running it with nothing else plugged in except a keyboard, mouse, and monitor and see if you get any better speed.
The NVMe enclosure I use is one from the "plugable" company. Make sure it's a newer one, as apparently their older ones used a non-ideal chipset. I read a lot of reviews on the different enclosures before choosing this one, as hidden in those reviews sometimes are clues that they aren't worth a crap for running an OS externally for some reason. I think it's usually that they use cheap or old chipsets.
#81 Re: News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-09-17 00:13:50
HOAS is just lobbying you to re-base off of Fedora with Gnome 43 and systemd 252. Maybe throw in a Peppermint-themed Microsoft Edge browser for good measure.
Now that was just humorous. I got a good laugh from that. No disrespect intended to HOAS, none at all.
It's funny because it's true. A slight degree of playful disrespect is possibly intended.
#82 Re: News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-09-13 18:19:07
Don't fall for the trap - HOAS is just lobbying you to re-base off of Fedora with Gnome 43 and systemd 252. Maybe throw in a Peppermint-themed Microsoft Edge browser for good measure. That's when you'll get your resounding HOAS 5-star review.
#83 Re: Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-18 13:18:48
As we know, Pale Moon stopped the 32-bit versions back in 2020.
The Pale Moon project does not currently create 32-bit binaries themselves, but they recommend the 32-bit builds by Steve Pusser. Links to his repos and deb packages for GTK2 and GTK3 versions are at the top of Pale Moon's 3rd party builds page here: http://www.palemoon.org/contributed-builds.shtml
I don't know if the latest Pale Moon will work better for you than the older Firefox ESR, but it's been working well for me.
#84 Re: Off-topic » April fools in August » 2022-08-17 17:39:44
'Software freedom your way' by the Devuan community is a very good book. There are very few other distros which have published the philosophical reasons for the existence of the distro. And yet, books of that nature can be very important for helping users to form deeper connections with the goals of the project. For instance, I became much more insistent on using libre software after reading 'Free Software, Free Society' by Richard Stallman, and reading the Stallman biography called 'Free as in Freedom'.
There's a PDF version linked in the post that golinux posted where you can read the entire 'Software freedom your way' book yourself: https://bxl.dyne.org/media/actions/3-so … ur-way.pdf
Devuan users should read the entire book if possible.
#85 Re: Devuan Derivatives » We are making progress » 2022-08-06 15:50:13
Exciting times - Peppermint has announced their 64-bit and 32-bit Devuan-based releases: https://peppermintos.com/2022/08/pepper … 8-02-2022/
#86 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2022-07-25 21:38:56
I see there's a new version of GNUinos ISO's posted to the Chimaera live mirror today, both 32-bit (PAE and non-PAE) and 64-bit, with XFCE or openbox. https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/chimaera/live/
I've tried the XFCE version, think I'll have a look at the openbox version this time.
#87 Re: Devuan » A Possible Future For Devuan and Linux » 2022-07-17 15:05:57
Bump!
andyprough wrote:Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land? Looks like a security must-have.
We do now:
Porting OpenBSD pledge() to Linux
Nice.
Wow, who better than a world famous internet troll to create a perfect security tool for Linux? Way to go Justine! She's the kind of highly productive troll I want to be when I grow up.
#88 Re: Devuan Derivatives » We are making progress » 2022-07-15 18:33:54
I also wanted to let you know in the course of the next 2 weeks we will be dropping the Production release 32 and 64 bit of PeppermintOS(Devuan) we will definitely be throwing much love your way as we start ramping up the release.
This is going to be very cool!! Linux-land is dominated by conservative old distros that work overtime to maintain the status quo. Very exciting to see PeppermintOS willing to shake things up a bit.
#89 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] chimaera in vm on m1 mac » 2022-06-09 16:47:53
You can apparently install qemu on an M1 through homebrew. Might be worth a shot.
#90 Re: Devuan Derivatives » We are making progress » 2022-06-01 15:43:37
Very exciting, can't wait to try PepOSDevuan
#91 Re: Documentation » How-to boot GRUB with HP Envy laptop » 2022-04-19 17:10:17
Say yes when it asks if you want to "force extra installation to the EFI removable media path".
Oh interesting, so this is primarily for people who boot from an EFI partition on a USB drive, I would imagine. Something like that?
#92 Documentation » How-to boot GRUB with HP Envy laptop » 2022-04-19 15:49:16
- andyprough
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I am following the instructions from the extremely helpful post by @edbarx who figured out how to boot the HP Probook 4540s in this post: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=15
I have an old 2012 HP Envy laptop that I was able to install Devuan on, but which would not boot normally. It did allow booting by finding the efi file from a boot menu, but it was a tricky process and looked like it could fail pretty easily, which would leave this machine un-bootable.
The trick that @edbarx figured out was to create a /boot/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/ folder and copy the /boot/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi file into the new Microsoft boot folder and change its name to bootmgfw.efi. That did not work in Legacy Boot mode on edbarx's HP Probook, but did work in EFI boot mode.
On my HP Envy laptop, it will boot in Legacy mode, and there's a small difference where the bootmgfw.efi file goes. Proceed as follows, as root:
cd /boot/efi/EFI/
mkdir -p Microsoft/Boot/
cp debian/grubx64.efi Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efiThat's it, reboot, and should boot up normally now. Hopefully this will help someone else in the future find the correct path and bios settings for their HP laptop.
A few notes - to access the legacy BIOS settings in this HP laptop, I needed to hit the Escape key right after power up, as it will go directly to another failed boot attempt with a zero second delay. Have to have a fast Escape key finger. That brings up a screen with some options, including changing legacy BIOS settings, which can only be accessed with the F10 key - arrowing down to that option and hitting "Enter" will just go directly to a failed boot again. Pushing the F9 key on that menu gives access to an option to find the Devuan efi file, which is actually easy to do in HP's little cli file manager thingy.
Anyway, long story short, if you have a 2012-era HP laptop that is giving you trouble with booting, don't give up. My HP Envy system is very weird, from the keyboard entries to the menu prompts to the BIOS settings to the efi path, but it can all be navigated and fixed with a bit of patience.
#93 Re: Off-topic » Anyone know how to compile firefox from source from Devuan? » 2022-04-14 16:58:40
I used to build customized versions of the Firefox nightly version quite often a couple of years ago. I would recommend working with nightly in your initial test builds, it tends to build a bit more easily for some reason. Probably Firefox's regular releases have all kinds of extra useless crap added on.
Also, I'd build it on a minimal Void installation with no dbus, just to have a very clean build environment that's already got some similarities to Hyperbola. You can have a graphical environment with void without any dbus if you stick to DWM (or probably JWM as well). I can walk you through the Void setup steps. I'll try building it soon. I may not have time to dig into it right away this week, but maybe the week after.
If I do get it built, I will need some help from you, zapper, on my Hyperbola 0.4 installation so I can test out the Firefox binary. I've had a bit of trouble with my graphics setup, and have set it aside and didn't bother to figure it out yet.
#94 Re: Devuan » Donation bombed » 2022-03-18 03:57:53
I think that zapper and andyprough should create their own forum where they can try to outdo each other's nonsense. Please stop wasting Devuan resources on irrelevant babble.
Yes, it's too bad that zapper is not on the leadership team of a forum that supports an astonishingly advanced GNU/Linux technology. Which, by the way just announced their looooong-awaited 0.4 release. Bravo to the Hyperbola team. Quite an amazing accomplishment, you guys have truly outdone yourselves this time.
#95 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2022-03-18 03:43:00
Btw, do you know how to get alsa working in for it in devuan? I doubt you can with dbus requirement removed, especially for Hyperbola, but I don't use alsa or pipewire.
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Thanks though, I am surprised they didn't put a notification about this anywhere on the current website, but ah well, it least I know now why.
Ruben did put a notification a couple weeks ago.
My level of knowledge about how to make sound work with alsa is total crap. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes not. If you are using GNUinOS, I'm assuming you already tried installing apulse and then doing "apulse abrowser"?
#96 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2022-03-18 01:18:57
Something interesting has happened of late... I don't know why, but I cannot enter their forums, only 7 possibilities exist I imagine:
1: They blocked my IP address
2: They only let members view the forum now
3: Trisquel has finally died... -_- Not sure if this will do any good for anyone...
4: They have been hacked
5: Their forums website is buggy right now
6: They are blocking certain useragents
7: Something else
None of the above. It's this:
8. They are moving the forum to a new software and server, and it is currently down during the transition.
#97 Re: Devuan » Donation bombed » 2022-03-18 01:10:36
that's something I would even gove to mother Theresa :-)
Twenty-year-old-me would have given my phone number to 20-year-old Mother Theresa. 
#98 Re: Installation » The best init system » 2022-03-13 22:07:23
I prefer all systems except systemD.
Did you mean to say Soystem-D?
#99 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2022-03-12 18:30:12
Bathory - In Nomine Satanas
Bathory is some high quality black metal. Reminds me of 80s Iron Maiden for some reason. Not the same at all, but just reminds me.
#100 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] I installed gnome, now I can't use XFCE » 2022-03-11 03:26:21
Does Gnome even run on Devuan? I thought it requires Soystem-D.
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