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#776 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 11 (Chimaera) isos » 2021-11-16 22:07:26

And for the truly impatient, here are some no-X isos based on daedalus.
https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/

I made these the easy way - upgraded a chimaera VM to daedalus and made a snapshot iso.

#777 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 11 (Chimaera) isos » 2021-11-16 15:13:54

fsmithred
Replies: 8

Updated xfce and no-X isos are here:
https://get.refracta.org/files/stable/

These are better than the last set of isos.

- ps_mem.py now works.
- firemenu Edit button now works.
- Some odd file associations were corrected. Some might still be weird.
- Tor Browser menu bar is now enabled.
- check-link-state patch added to /etc/init.d/networking to remove the
  boot delay waiting for non-existent ethernet connection.
- Correct desktop background now shows up. (single-color: #1A6542)

#778 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-07 14:12:01

brday wrote:
golinux wrote:

We're all waiting for fsmithred's HOWTO.  wink

Was it published the HOWTO ?

At least give me a hint. What am I supposed to have written?

#779 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Chimaera XFCE SLiM "Switch Users" option (multiuser system) » 2021-09-19 13:24:55

Yes, F1 at the slim login screen is to change to a different desktop environment or window manager. There is no switch-user with slim. It's named slim for a reason.

Looks like lightdm IS dm-tool. There's not much else. 

~$ apt-file find dm-tool
lightdm: /usr/bin/dm-tool                 
lightdm: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/dm-tool
lightdm: /usr/share/man/man1/dm-tool.1.gz

lightdm will also pull in lightdm-gtk-greeter

#780 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] jack server no start: "hw:II" (No such dev) » 2021-09-18 21:19:55

You only have two audio interfaces, so I would expect them to be labeled hw:0 and hw:1
Do you want to use the on-board audio or the nvidia?

#781 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] jack server no start: "hw:II" (No such dev) » 2021-09-18 18:00:56

What is the output from the following commands?

cat /proc/asound/cards
aplay -l
aplay -L
lspci

#782 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blanking screen » 2021-09-13 23:00:47

Dutch_Master wrote:

Mind, I re-used my /home dir from Ascii, it's on a separate HDD.

Create a new user and log in as that user to test. If the problem is gone, it's something in your home configs. (~/.config)

#783 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 11 (Chimaera) XFCE beta isos » 2021-09-13 18:39:03

There's a refracta-lang live-config script that fixes the lightdm problem, but it appears to no longer work.

I'd really like to know why it's broken only in this build. I can go back to using lxdm, which I used in the last two releases because it does respect the language choice.

If you want daedelus, you could probably debootstrap ceres, wait a couple months and the change sources to daedelus and do a dist-upgrade. Otherwise you could make the symlink yourself in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/, but I don't see the point of running daedelus at this time. We haven't started working on it yet.

#784 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 22:59:48

Wow, that is weird. But then again, I have yet to see two uefi implementations that act the same way. If you install from there, be sure you know which drive you are installing to.

If you search at youtube for 'Lenovo T550 replace cmos battery' (or factory reset) you will find some videos showing you how to do it. If you do it, keep track of which screws go in which holes. They are not all the same.

#785 Re: Installation » minimal-live issue » 2021-09-12 22:55:35

It's possible that something your hardware needs is not in the initramfs in the minimal-live. There's a script used in the build that edits the initrd to remove a bunch of stuff. I've never examined this script closely. KatolaZ wrote it, and I just keep re-using it.
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-sdk/live- … _initrd.sh

Here's the list of packages installed in the minimal-live. Anything you want that isn't already in the refracta-nox that you installed can easily be added. This is the beowulf package list. There are only a few of these that are not available in chimaera. (firmware-ralink comes to mind.)
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-sdk/live- … ulf/config

#786 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 11 (Chimaera) XFCE beta isos » 2021-09-12 18:15:31

I looked at what's in the runit iso that's not in the r11-beta isos, added a few thing that I thought might help with booting into another language, but failed.

I looked at what's in the devuan desktop-live iso and didn't see anything else that was obvious.

I got a list of what packages are common to both of the isos that do boot to another language (the runit iso and the desktop-live) AND missing in the r11-beta. I still don't see anything obvous. That list is here:

libcairo-gobject-perl
libcairo-perl
libdata-dump-perl
libextutils-depends-perl
libextutils-pkgconfig-perl
libglib-object-introspection-perl
libglib-perl
libgtk3-perl
lynx
lynx-common
pkg-config
xserver-xorg-legacy

I compared lightdm.conf and lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and didn't see any relevant differences. (e.g. different background images)

I replaced lightdm with lxdm in the VM and made a new refracta-11 iso. This one boots into another language. I'd like to know why it doesn't work with lightdm in this system.

#787 Re: Installation » Could not install under UEFI with chimera netinstall » 2021-09-12 12:40:31

I haven't used vbox in a long time, but I've always had to get out of the uefi shell with ESC or exit (or both) to get to a menu that lets me boot from a file. Drill down until you find grubx64.efi or other uefi boot file.

#788 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 11 (Chimaera) XFCE beta isos » 2021-09-11 14:36:39

fsmithred
Replies: 4

They keep getting bigger. Just a few releases ago, they fit on a CD. Now they no longer fit on a 1GB usb stick.

https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/

Known problem: It won't boot into another language. The language gets configured (uncommented in /etc/locale.gen), it gets set correctly in /etc/default/locale and /etc/default/keyboard. The keyboard gets remapped to the other language, but it's all still in English.

This problem is not present in my experimental runit build, which has essentially the same packages but was built from a system that was upgraded from beowulf. These new isos started life as chimaera. The problem is also not present in the devuan chimaera desktop-live isos.

I assume that some package is missing, but I have not found it yet. I'll do some more list comparisons to try to narrow it down.

#789 Re: Installation » Could not install under UEFI with chimera netinstall » 2021-09-11 11:58:23

Bernie, the OP in this thread is using a netinstall iso, not a live iso.

FYI: gparted requires a graphical environment. If there are issues beyond that, please file a bug report for refractainstaller-base or start a separate thread about it. Thanks.

#790 Re: Devuan » minimal-live chimaera beta isos » 2021-09-11 11:48:10

cafinux, are you saying you did a uefi install with the minimal-live iso? (This one: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaer … l-live.iso )

How did you install lxqt? If you just installed lxqt, you may not have installed desktop-base, which pulls in the theme and the desktop background (and a few other things). If you installed task-lxqt-desktop, then you should get the background. But you won't get the window theme. It's not set up for that.

#791 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) Released as Next Testing! » 2021-09-10 12:44:32

Nixer, your pinning looks safe. My pin file looks much less safe, and I will not post it in full here. I have a bunch of repos enabled just so I can check package versions. 

I don't think you need to use negative numbers. I generally use a priority of 10 or 50 or sometimes 1 for things I want to use selectively.

You can use codenames with 'n=<codename>' as in my example. This is from my beowulf (my main computer.)

Package: *
Pin: release n=chimaera
Pin-Priority: 50

Package: *
Pin: release n=ceres
Pin-Priority: 50

If you have nothing pinned, running apt-policy will show you the default priorities of all the repos you have enabled. I think backports is 100 by default and experimental is 1.

See man apt_preferences for all the details.

#792 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-10 12:14:00

A couple things that I would try. I have no idea if this would work.

Try booting a debian-live usb with a devuan usb also plugged in. Get to the grub menu and boot the devuan usb from grub command-line.

If that works, you might be able to install devuan and install a minimal debian to be in charge of grub and boot devuan from that.

#793 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) Released as Next Testing! » 2021-09-09 20:28:15

You regulars know what you're doing. I wouldn't want to discourage you from going out on thin ice. Someone has to do it.

A good compromise between testing and unstable is to have both in your sources and pin ceres to a lower priority. Then you will just get packages from the testing suite unless you specify that you want something from ceres. This can be helpful when something breaks and the fix gets put into ceres. You don't have to wait for it to move to the testing suite.

Beowulf to Chimara: yes, change sources, update, upgrade/dist-upgrade. There has been some problem with upgrading eudev in some cases. I'm not sure what the exact circumstances are to create that problem, but there's a fix coming to chimaera very soon.

#794 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) Released as Next Testing! » 2021-09-09 14:42:59

nixer wrote:

If my ceres install was not working so well, I would be in daedalus right now, (-;

Ceres and daedelus should be almost identical right now. I don't think we have added any packages to daedelus, and debian has probably only added a few to whatever B is after bullseye. (Buckthorn? Bumble? Busted? I can't keep them straight anymore.)

#795 Re: Installation » To Ralph And Some Others » 2021-09-07 21:35:38

Short memory, I guess.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31200#p31200

Someone please delete my account plus all my posts, I've already changed my email into a non-existent email.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31205#p31205

Your bug report was not removed.

You might find this site useful in the future:
https://isitdownorjust.me/

#796 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] no highlight of todays date in cal » 2021-09-07 12:56:19

I didn't find that in 'man cal'. It came from a bug report. The man page leads one to believe that those options work with cal. Not all of them do.

#797 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-07 12:50:26

Thanks, Lars!

Elisabeth,

Chimaera is quite stable. 99% of devuan is unchanged from debian, and chimaera=bullseye, which is now the stable debian release. We're just tying up some loose ends (like documentation to go with the isos) before chimaera is released as stable. Some of us have been running it for months.

#799 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-07 11:14:29

The beowulf desktop-live iso does not have grub-efi-amd64-signed installed. It only has the unsigned package. The chimaera desktop-live iso does have the signed package. Please try that instead. If it works, you can be the first person to tell me that it boots with secure boot. Thanks in advance.
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaer … p-live.iso

If you're not familiar with the installer in the live isos, you might want to look at this guide.
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … f/live-gui

#800 Re: Devuan » minimal-live chimaera beta isos » 2021-09-06 11:48:24

These isos replace the July 21 alpha isos that were there. Newer kernel, some newer software since then, added rfkill and ceni. setnet.sh is still there, but is also still the old version.

Also, I added a uefi-compatible minimal-live iso. It will actually work on bios or uefi, same as the desktop-live amd64 iso.

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