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#1 2021-09-06 21:48:11

Élisabeth
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[SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

I am trying to install Devuan on a Lenovo T550, which currently runs Windows 10.

I burnt a USB drive with Beowolf 3.1.1 desktop live ISO.
When I try to boot from it I get the error Image failed to verify with ACCESS DENIED.

I presume the problem is Secure Boot, which I have so far not managed to disable in the BIOS. The option is grayed out.


I can boot from a Debian USB.


What's the way forward?

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#2 2021-09-07 11:14:29

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

The beowulf desktop-live iso does not have grub-efi-amd64-signed installed. It only has the unsigned package. The chimaera desktop-live iso does have the signed package. Please try that instead. If it works, you can be the first person to tell me that it boots with secure boot. Thanks in advance.
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaer … p-live.iso

If you're not familiar with the installer in the live isos, you might want to look at this guide.
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … f/live-gui

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#3 2021-09-07 11:40:23

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Thank you so much for your tip. I will try this and report back.

How stable/unstable is Chimaera for everyday use ?


I have been using Debian for about 15 years but never ever installed a system myself.

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#4 2021-09-07 12:29:03

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Hi

fsmithred: I can tell you that Secure boot works with the chiamera network installer. I have not tried any of the desktop live installers

Have a nice day
Lars H

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#5 2021-09-07 12:50:26

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Thanks, Lars!

Elisabeth,

Chimaera is quite stable. 99% of devuan is unchanged from debian, and chimaera=bullseye, which is now the stable debian release. We're just tying up some loose ends (like documentation to go with the isos) before chimaera is released as stable. Some of us have been running it for months.

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#6 2021-09-07 12:52:05

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Élisabeth wrote:

How stable/unstable is Chimaera for everyday use?

I have switched my home network completely to Chimaera. 2 PCs, a file server, a laptop.

rolfie

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#7 2021-09-07 13:14:06

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Super! I'll be on the bleeding edge then!

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#8 2021-09-07 21:27:34

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

I downloaded devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta2_2021-09-04_amd64_desktop-live.iso
I used Unetbootin-windows to write the USB.

I get the same error message as with beowolf.

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#9 2021-09-08 08:45:57

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

I always use dd - try using that, mine worked fine on a chromebook.

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#10 2021-09-08 09:07:28

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Camtaf wrote:

I always use dd - try using that, mine worked fine on a chromebook.

I can't: I only have one PC, a secondhand Lenovo T550 with Windows 10, which I bought to convert to Linux. That's why I bought a Debian USB. Then a friend suggested Devuan ...

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#11 2021-09-08 16:26:36

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

larsH wrote:

I can tell you that Secure boot works with the chiamera network installer.

I tried devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210906_amd64_netinstall.
I used Unetbootin-windows to write the USB.

Same error.

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#12 2021-09-08 17:37:46

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Élisabeth wrote:
Camtaf wrote:

I always use dd - try using that, mine worked fine on a chromebook.

I can't: I only have one PC, a secondhand Lenovo T550 with Windows 10, which I bought to convert to Linux. That's why I bought a Debian USB. Then a friend suggested Devuan ...

I have used a Windows version before, there is one here - http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

You could also use your Debian 'live' USB drive to install the image to a second USB drive - but be careful of which drive you put it onto, (check their sizes carefully).

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#13 2021-09-08 19:49:00

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Camtaf wrote:

I have used a Windows version before, there is one here - http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

I tried dd for Windows. That failed with the same error too.

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#14 2021-09-08 20:24:44

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Hi

Are we sure that secure boot works with the live iso's ???. Maybe try to disable secure boot ?? Or use the network installer for Chiamera. It works on my system with secure boot enabled :-) But as fsmithred wrote it is not confirmed for the live isos

Have a nice day
Lars H

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#15 2021-09-08 21:08:04

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

larsH wrote:

Hi
Are we sure that secure boot works with the live iso's ???. Maybe try to disable secure boot ?? Or use the network installer for Chiamera. It works on my system with secure boot enabled :-) But as fsmithred wrote it is not confirmed for the live isos

Thank you for your suggestions.

I tried devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210906_amd64_netinstall.
I used Unetbootin-windows to write the USB.
It failed with the same error.


As per my original post, I cannot disable Secure Boot in the BIOS.

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#16 2021-09-08 21:38:13

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Have a look at this post: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30971#p30971

Since I always do legacy boot not sure it's the issue you're experiencing but doesn't hurt to mention it.

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#17 2021-09-08 21:40:07

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

I am not sure whether the problem is with the ISO, the format of the USB or my BIOS.

I tried three different  burn tools (Unetbootin-windows, AnyBurn, dd Windows).

The only thing that boots so far is the Debian USB.

Woud it work to install Debian, then Devuan?

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#18 2021-09-08 21:45:57

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

I have heard rufus mentioned a few times too.  A migration is possible https://www.devuan.org/os/install but not always trouble-free. Search the forum for discussions.

OK just searched for "Image failed to verify with ACCESS DENIED" and getting a lot of hits.

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#19 2021-09-09 15:58:20

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

On reflection, I don't think  that a Debian interim step would resolve the problem. I don't think this is a Windows issue. The problem seems to be with the grub/BIOS interaction.

You get quite a few hits if you search for
grub "Image failed to verify with ACCESS DENIED"

for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … ug/1528345

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#20 2021-09-10 12:14:00

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

A couple things that I would try. I have no idea if this would work.

Try booting a debian-live usb with a devuan usb also plugged in. Get to the grub menu and boot the devuan usb from grub command-line.

If that works, you might be able to install devuan and install a minimal debian to be in charge of grub and boot devuan from that.

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#21 2021-09-10 15:36:27

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Élisabeth wrote:

You get quite a few hits if you search for
grub "Image failed to verify with ACCESS DENIED"

for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … ug/1528345

So did you check your boot entries?

efibootmgr -uv

^ That will show the .efi loader used for each entry.


antifa ftw!

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#22 2021-09-10 20:06:20

Élisabeth
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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So did you check your boot entries?

efibootmgr -uv

No. Sorry if I'm being dense.
But I am running Windows 10 on this PC.

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#23 2021-09-10 20:15:59

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

fsmithred wrote:

A couple things that I would try. I have no idea if this would work.

Try booting a debian-live usb with a devuan usb also plugged in. Get to the grub menu and boot the devuan usb from grub command-line.

If that works, you might be able to install devuan and install a minimal debian to be in charge of grub and boot devuan from that.



I  tried something simple to begin with:

I formatted my USB stick to FAT32.
Then I copied the files from my Debian USB over. (drag + drop)

Booting from the original Debian USB works: it takes me to a UEFI menu, which gives me various options (install, grub, ...).

I then tried to boot from my USB copy. It did boot without error. But strangely, it went straight to grub. The content of the two USB is identical. Why the different behaviour?

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#24 2021-09-10 21:57:59

Élisabeth
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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

fsmithred wrote:

A couple things that I would try. I have no idea if this would work.

Try booting a debian-live usb with a devuan usb also plugged in. Get to the grub menu and boot the devuan usb from grub command-line.

If that works, you might be able to install devuan and install a minimal debian to be in charge of grub and boot devuan from that.


OK, I'm trying this. But I have a couple of roadblocks to solve.

  • I tried  to search for the other USB drive using the root command, which wasn't found.

  • It's also a bit of a pain that it doesn't recognise my French keyboard.

  • I entered the command usb, which returned the following error: Secure Boot forbids loading module from (hd1)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/usbtest.mod



I also found an article on Debian How to boot from USB when the BIOS doesn't allow it.

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#25 2021-09-11 15:13:44

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Re: [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error

Élisabeth wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So did you check your boot entries?

efibootmgr -uv

No. Sorry if I'm being dense.
But I am running Windows 10 on this PC.

The equivalent command under Windows would be

bcdedit /enum bootmgr

antifa ftw!

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