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#51 Installation » Changing UUID of /root? » 2022-02-02 05:56:06

MLEvD
Replies: 10

How is this done? Live or chroot? I know about changing uuid in fstab, but there is something else I need to do, what is it? Is there a guide online to this?
I want to clone a system then give it a new UUID?

#52 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 16:51:53

I must confess, I delete most supplied wallpapers before opening the wallpaper chooser, I find they slow down the chooser, and the login screen if it has wallpaper slideshow. On mint I delete all the mint-backgrounds-name and the three largest from the mint-artwork package.

#53 Desktop and Multimedia » How to disable nm-applet and cinnamon screensaver? » 2022-01-18 16:46:08

MLEvD
Replies: 3

Using minty base for devuan, installed devuan cinnamon to avoid a lot of mint dependancies, shocked to find that devuan cinnamon demands network-manager!

Asking for a friend with little ram.

#54 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Warpinator on beomint/debbowulf » 2022-01-17 09:35:10

It got silly, I got excited. Have ordered a mini pcie-msata converter and a 3x5 128GB fast ssd, to put in the eee pc 904 disney special, and then fill her full of sweet music, over the airwaves, at 2.7MB/s, which is considerably faster than PCM.
Also hoping she will boot cinnamon in under one minute with a faster ssd.

Warpinator has a multi-state taskbar icon, fiddly to change, but I will.

#55 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Warpinator on beomint/debbowulf » 2022-01-17 01:53:45

Got it working by disabling noroot firewall on phone and allowing all incoming via GUFW.
Initial thoughts:
1. I am too paranoid to change firewall settings that I do not completely understand.
2. Only 2.7MB per second? it is faster to use an old sd card for large file transfers, so will only use it for transferring Emma Radacanu wallpapers from phone to PC.
3. Warpinator has a low quality taskbar icon. To be changed.

My network is only 50mb/s over wireless???

#56 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Warpinator on beomint/debbowulf » 2022-01-17 01:21:56

Ah, thanks, I will try installing GUFW. Were any of your machines using ifupdown?

#57 Devuan Derivatives » Warpinator on beomint/debbowulf » 2022-01-16 12:57:38

MLEvD
Replies: 6

Has anyone who has a devuanified mint tried warpinator? Put it on three machines:

1. Network manager and systemd - can't find other computers
2. Network manager and sysv - can't find other computers
3. Ifupdown and sysv - can't find network on own computer

Any info appreciated

#58 Re: Other Issues » Problems with configuration, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin » 2022-01-11 10:33:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Yes, I know. My suggestion was for you to create them yourself.

The solution is to write your own desktop entirely, it's the only way to be sure.
Oh, and don't forget to write your own init, to be on the safe side.

Look, write your own kernel or it's your fault big_smile

#59 Re: Other Issues » Problems with configuration, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin » 2022-01-11 07:23:11

This problem goes away if you start by installing debian and switch to devuan. It only happens on a clean devuan install, and it happens on the mate desktop too. It's a bug. Losing user settings, is data loss. I don't know how to log this as a bug but I did notice systemd doing the alsa save and restore thing, but not devuan.
Other distros with sysvinit, antix etc, do not have this bug.

#60 Installation » Cindii - Debbowulf news » 2022-01-05 15:22:01

MLEvD
Replies: 0

It appears there is no need to upgrade from LMDE2 to LMDE3 with sysvinit-core held, in order to preserve that init for a smooth crossover to devuan. You can simply install sysvinit-core and elogind into LMDE3 Cindy, the only difference being is that you don't have the boot time init choice like in LMDE2, the systemd boot option is gone.

So having got our Cindy rebooted into sysv, it's easy to switch over to ascii and get rid of systemd entirely. The only packages removed were caja, mate-control-center, and mate-panel. I used synaptic but apt is as good.

You'll find the machine might not shut down when trying to reboot into sysv, so rather than pulling the plug or smothering the power button, as administrator type:

cat >> /dev/watchdog

Hit return (Enter) twice, and go make a cup of tea while the hardware watchdog does the reboot for you, in a few minutes.

Upgrading to Debbowulf was equally smooth. Can't wait to try LMDE5 with Chimaera, Essiemaera!
Or Essaera?

#61 Re: Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-12-30 11:39:41

In the end, success. Clearly systemd won't allow live removal, but debian documentation on init suggests you can --download-only the packages you need, then switch to rescue mode, and install them. This also didn't work.
In the end, needed to use rescue mode on a netinstaller to do the installation.
Then found there appears to be no way to proceed with debian repos, so had to switch over to devuan to install eudev and get everything else installed,
This was LMDE3 upgraded incorrectly to LMDE4 Debbie repos with debian chassis, now devuan beowulf chassis with LMDE4 repos.

All we need are devuan specific spins of mintSources and mintMirrors, and what do mintsystem and plymouth do anyway?

This sysv-init-LMDE4 incarnation idles with a mate desktop with a mint menu in less than 100 MB.

I think it's fair to suggest that the debian documentation on switching to sysv from systemd, is lacking in clarity. The devuan documentation also seems wanting, in light of this.

#62 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-12-25 06:26:19

cd /usr/share/icons
rm -rf *@2x*

#63 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Chimaera still has bug in audio settings persistance for mate desktop » 2021-12-23 19:07:11

I can confirm the bug is still present in daedalus.

Checked using the latest netinstall iso, noticed there were some alsa related messages flashing past on boot, perhaps a clue?

#64 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Chimaera still has bug in audio settings persistance for mate desktop » 2021-12-19 15:49:44

New info, a new approach to trying to reproduce bug from a debian base:
Debian Bullseye netinstall, skipping 'install software' stage, chroot /target and apt install sysvinit-core elogind
Boot system and point sources to Devuan Chimaera, upgraded to devuan, rebooted.
Then installed xorg, mate desktop, pulseaudio.
The bug was not reproducible.
It seems the bug doesn't happen when starting from debian, no matter how early you change over to devuan.

#65 Re: Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-12-13 18:40:53

fsmithred wrote:

The update to the migration guide is in the works. Thanks!

Thank YOU too!

#66 Re: Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-12-13 08:31:46

I can happy. Just tried netinstall of debian bullseye, but took advice to open a terminal before the 'select and install software' stage, did chroot into /target, apt install sysvinit-core elogind libpam-elogind, then continued as normal with the install. This is on the asus eee pc 701, originally a machine that ran debian and runit in 2007.

I haven't seen linux working this well on this machine since LMDE 2! It has no problem connecting to wifi, or continuing if no wifi, all audio settings persist, and it hibernates reliably even when the grub timeout is set to zero.
Can't wait to try this approach with LMDE 5. Hoping it will work.

#67 Re: Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-11-27 17:47:18

User479 you are right! It is a bug in the install documentation.

I can't log it until i've figured out how to log my other bug. Anybody?

#68 Re: Installation » Looking for advice for upgrading from Ascii to Chimaera. » 2021-11-07 14:58:25

I accidentally did this last year. It's interesting, but even if I'd got it working, I'd have had little confidence in it. The horrors!

Go via Beowulf, or clean install, or wait six months.

#69 Re: Installation » strange lightdm greeter background » 2021-11-06 07:29:12

desktop-base should be removed for smooth installation of your chosen bodykit

#70 Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-11-06 07:21:01

MLEvD
Replies: 12

We've all done this, right? Removed systemd without first installing an alternative, rebooting.
I have a root prompt and nothing seems to work. How to install init without an init?
Do we even need an init?

#71 Desktop and Multimedia » User-defined wallpaper choices persisting in chimeara! Mate DE » 2021-10-26 09:35:46

MLEvD
Replies: 0

Hi, remember the wallpaper persistence bug in the last version? It is fixed in the latest version. Mate desktop.

Was it fixed accidentally or on purpose?

#72 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Chimaera still has bug in audio settings persistance for mate desktop » 2021-10-25 10:11:25

After a little detective work and guesswork, looking at devuan specific files that are dependencies of mate-settings-daemon, I would suggest maybe either dbus or libdbus-1-3 are the problem. But how to know for sure, and which?

#73 Desktop and Multimedia » Chimaera still has bug in audio settings persistance for mate desktop » 2021-10-23 13:49:32

MLEvD
Replies: 4

Hi, to reproduce the bug, launch 'Sound Preferences', select the 'Hardware' tab. Change the 'profile' from 'Analogue stereo duplex' to 'Analogue stereo output'. Close sound preferences and reboot.
When you return, you find your selection has not been saved.

Similarly, on the 'output' tab, the 'Connector' defaults to 'speakers'. Changing it to 'headphones', reboot, it has returned to 'speakers', even when speakers are turned off in bios.

Can somebody tell me please, which devuan specific package is responsible for saving these data? I can't log the bug against mate-media because the version is the same as debian and this bug does not occur in debian.

#75 Re: Off-topic » post your interesting bashrc commands » 2021-05-29 15:15:46

I got 2.9 GB/s with radio stream playing, 3.5 GB/s with radio stream stopped.

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