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#51 Documentation » Upgrading Nvtop on Devuan » 2022-09-09 04:24:04

brocashelm
Replies: 0

What is nvtop, and why should you use it? It's programmed to look and behave like the popular htop, but instead of tracking the actively running processes on your CPU and RAM, it focuses on your GPU by displaying a plot, fan percentage, power consumption, frequency usage (both GPU and VRAM), and temperature. And, just like htop, nvtop correctly shows which processes are GPU-bound, and how much they are requiring from it. You can configure it with F2 to how you want it to display and save the configuration with F12. If you don't need the plot, run it as nvtop --no-plot, but check its manual with man nvtop for other usage instructions.

You can check its official repository over at GitHub.

Like the issue of firmware-amd-graphics (solution provided), some packages from Devuan Ceres are pretty old. The current version is at 1.2.2-1, while the latest upstream version is at 2.0-2. It also curiously only picks up Nvidia GPUs, while AMD GPUs are now supported. Keep in mind that nvtop only supports newer GPU hardware (i.e. not older than five years), so if you got an HD 6450 laying around, you're shit out of luck.

Before compiling, make sure you got the required dependencies (we'll assume a build for both AMD and Nvidia GPUs):

apt install cmake git libdrm-dev libncurses-dev libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

With those dependencies installed, it's time to get on with the process:

git clone https://github.com/Syllo/nvtop.git
mkdir -p nvtop/build && cd nvtop/build
cmake .. -DNVIDIA_SUPPORT=ON -DAMDGPU_SUPPORT=ON
make
sudo make install

#52 Documentation » Upgrading Firmware-AMD-Graphics on Devuan Ceres » 2022-09-09 04:05:13

brocashelm
Replies: 3

Even some packages from Devuan Ceres are quite old, namely the likes of firmware-amd-graphics still using binaries from last year (August 2021). Downloading the latest snapshot and copying the binaries from the amdgpu, r128, and radeon folders to /lib/firmware/ folders (overwrite the existing files) should do the trick. This will not remove firmware-amd-graphics, but add to the existing files.

As of the date of this post, we'll download linux-firmware-20220815 as the latest snapshot, extract it, and copy the folders to their respective directories:

wget https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/snapshot/linux-firmware-20220815.tar.gz
tar -xf linux-firmware-20220815.tar.gz && cd linux-firmware-20220815
sudo cp amdgpu /lib/firmware/
sudo cp r128 /lib/firmware/
sudo cp radeon /lib/firmware/

Reboot your system afterwards for the changes to take full effect.

#53 Desktop and Multimedia » Installing Snes9x on Devuan » 2022-09-09 03:24:35

brocashelm
Replies: 0

Let's face it, some systems aren't good enough to run higan (which is technically bsnes), and zsnes is too old and too shitty for a conventional Super Nintendo or Super Famicom emulator. Plus, retroarch isn't for everyone. That's why I'd recommend installing snes9x as a standalone emulator, since it Just Werks™️ and doesn't require much to get it running.

Method 1. Installing from DEB File

The quickest and easiest way to do this is to download and install the lone DEB file from Bearoso's personal repository. Make sure all dependencies are met prior to installation.

wget https://sites.google.com/site/bearoso/snes9x/snes9x_1.60-1_amd64.deb && dpkg -i snes9x_1.60-1_amd64.deb

Now, keep in mind that as of the date of this post, the latest stable build of snes9x is currently at 1.61, and there are some changes since then. If you're upgrading, make a backup of your snes9x.conf file and check the second method below for replacing the binary.

Method 2. Building from Source

You'll need to get certain packages installed:

apt install build-essential cmake git glslang-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgtk-3-dev libminizip-dev libsdl2-2.0-0 libsdl2-dev meson portaudio19-dev

Clone the git repository, build, and install (feel free to change --prefix=/usr/ to --prefix=/usr/local, if preferred):

cd ~/snes9x/
git clone https://github.com/snes9xgit/snes9x.git
cd snes9x/
git submodule update --init shaders/SPIRV-Cross
cd gtk
meson build --prefix=/usr/ --buildtype=release --strip
cd build
ninja
sudo ninja install

If all went well, your snes9x should be ready to go, and with your backed up snes9x.conf file, apply your changes to the new file.

Another method is to use the nightly builds and choose either snes9x-gtk or snes9x-x11 platforms, and then just move the executable binary to /usr/bin/ or /usr/bin/local/, and then launch it as snes9x.

#54 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » amixer-gtk » 2022-09-09 02:45:20

charliebrownau wrote:

Have you got it shared as an deb file so people with Debian and Debian distros can use it too ???

The following DEBs are available for manual installation:

https://www.gnuinos.org/amixer-gtk/amixer-gtk_0.1_amd64.deb
https://www.gnuinos.org/amixer-gtk/amixer-gtk_0.1_i386.deb

Quick installation commands (one for amd64 and the other for i386:

wget https://www.gnuinos.org/amixer-gtk/amixer-gtk_0.1_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i amixer-gtk_0.1_amd64.deb
wget https://www.gnuinos.org/amixer-gtk/amixer-gtk_0.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i amixer-gtk_0.1_i386.deb

#55 Documentation » Installing CoreCtrl on Devuan Ceres » 2022-09-09 02:19:46

brocashelm
Replies: 1

These instructions are copied from LinuxReviews.

corectrl is a graphical system monitor for your graphics card that can assist in optimizing GPU fan curves, frequency, and voltage in order to improve performance quality. You can also monitor usage metrics to see which processes are demanding more power from your GPU. It's a handy tool for gamers, streamers, video creators, musicians, and even developers (particularly if software is more GPU-bound). It can also handle your CPU frequency scaling and governors, but the draw of corectrl is for GPU optimization.

Before proceeding, keep in mind that this program WILL interfere with fancontrol from lm-sensors. Make sure that this is something you are absolutely sure of (i.e. you have experience fixing stuff by yourself), as corectrl will take immediate effect once launched. In following along with this tutorial, you agree to not hold anyone but yourself liable for any potential damages caused.

The official repository is hosted at GitLab, where you can view the source code and report issues.

As Debian doesn't provide a DEB file for this tool, your only choices are to either compile it from source or add Ernst Sjöstrand's PPA.

Method 1. Compiling from Source

You must first install the following packages:

apt install botan2-devel qca-qt5-devel qt5-qtcharts-devel

The process for building is as follows:

git clone https://gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl.git
cd corectrl
mkdir build;cd build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -Wno-dev ..
make -j$(nproc)
sudo make install

If you leave the -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr part unchanged, the binary will be installed to /usr/bin/, instead of /usr/local/, which is more preferable because it relies on a daemon called corectrl-helper, and is started as root via dbus. We can learn how to make it work with PolicyKit (polkitd) rules and start up automatically later on in the tutorial.

Method 2. Installing from PPA

You will need the package libbotan-2-12, which is available from Ubuntu's repositories (should install just fine). Click here to download the package dependency.

Otherwise, you can run the following commands:

wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/botan/libbotan-2-12_2.12.1-2build1_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i libbotan-2-12_2.12.1-2build1_amd64.deb

To add the PPA to your repository list, open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the following (no need to change the focal codename, unless it won't install):

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ernstp/mesarc/ubuntu focal main

As root, run apt update. It's likely you'll have an unverified key issue, so run these commands:

apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys B78C97EF9B2235DD && mv /etc/apt/trusted.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/corectrl.gpg

If apt update works, then run apt install corectrl. It should install with all dependencies met.

Keep the following information in mind:

Although Debian and Devuan documentation strongly recommend against using outside repositories (particularly PPAs and anything outside of a Debian-specific build), I can confirm that this method works without any issues while using the unstable branches of Debian or Devuan. It's possible that this might also work for Bookworm or Daedalus (the current testing branches as of the date of this post), but I haven't tested installing it on them yet. My instructions are for Sid and Ceres users.

With the installation process done, the following is completely optional, but highly recommended:

Step 1. Making corectrl Work with polkitd and Launch Automatically on Startup

Create or edit the file in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/90-corectrl.pkla:

[User permissions]
Identity=unix-group:*
Action=org.corectrl.*
ResultActive=yes

If you have an older PolicyKit version (0.106 and older -- check with pkaction --version), create a file in /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/90-corectrl.rules and add the following lines of code:

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
    if ((action.id == "org.corectrl.helper.init" ||
         action.id == "org.corectrl.helperkiller.init") &&
        subject.local == true &&
        subject.active == true &&
        subject.isInGroup("*")) {
            return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

Afterwards, you'll need to create a desktop launcher:

cp /usr/share/applications/org.corectrl.corectrl.desktop ~/.config/autostart/org.corectrl.corectrl.desktop

Change StartupNotify=true to StartupNotify=false.

Save the file and reboot your system. Once you log into your graphical session, corectrl will launch automatically.

Step 2. Unlocking Kernel Parameters for the amdgpu Module (NOT RECOMMENDED FOR INEXPERIENCED USERS)

For AMD GPU users (like myself), you'll probably want to unlock the kernel parameters of the amdgpu kernel module by going into your /etc/default/grub file and inserting this line into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX:

amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff

It should look like this:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff"

Save the file and run update-grub, and then reboot your system. You'll be able to increase the maximum watts of your AMD GPU and adjust both voltage and frequency. Leaving them by default is generally recommended, unless you know exactly what you're doing and won't ruin your hardware.

Once again, this is all done at your own risk, as I'm not liable for any problems that could arise. Please keep this in mind, should you do this.

All feedback is welcomed.

#56 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-08 20:55:21

What Camtaf said. It's a small project that's run by a few volunteers, so I don't understand the need to escalate things, when there are some workarounds for this. Manually installing the updated DEB file worked for me.

Be like our friend MiyoLinux and offer to help out.

#57 Re: Freedom Hacks » Replacing sudo. » 2022-09-03 18:42:05

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The creator of doas explains their reasons here:

https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/doas

I've been listening to some of Ted Unangst's talks. He's very thorough about his approach to improving code.

Anyway, I've been playing around with doas and actively considering installing OpenBSD on the side. I like the more minimalist, no-hands-held environment.

#58 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-03 18:36:17

devuan-keyring has already been updated in the repository. This command was provided by Bb|hcb in the IRC channel:
apt update --allow-insecure-repositories && apt install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

#59 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] apt-get update: gpg error (expired key) » 2022-09-03 18:35:12

devuan-keyring has already been updated in the repository. This command was provided by Bb|hcb in the IRC channel:
apt update --allow-insecure-repositories && apt install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

#60 Re: Off-topic » OT nonsense » 2022-07-25 20:45:12

Wikipedia is a biased source, and anyone can easily vandalize it, but yes, it's only been introduced as far back as the 1950s technically. "Gender" and "sex" were used interchangeably. There are established social structures of both males and females that can be observed in nature. It's not just down to your genitals, but the structure of your body (including DNA and chromosomes). Males typically have larger arms, torsos, legs, and shoulders than females. This is so they are the designated hunters, due to having a physical advantage over their prey and other threats. Sure, a woman could always get her muscle gains by spending time at the gym, but my point is it's an environmental change, rather than something that happens biologically. I'm also aware that some women can grow significant facial hair. This is not an argument for "gender identity", but something that occurs in nature due to hormonal imbalances. Try to ask some of the "authorities" what a "woman" is -- they won't have an answer, because it'd be "offensive" to the AGPs.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Gender incongruence is now a recognised medical disorder:

https://www.who.int/standards/classific … in-the-icd

The change is similar to the way the medical profession viewed homosexuals back in the dark ages compared to the more enlightened current opinions.

Science always changes, but it doesn't say anything about the "infinite" amounts of "gender identities" that proponents claim "exist". How many "non-binary" genders are there? Can you prove, objectively speaking, the existence of "astrogenders" (just one of the many absurd "gender identities")? This "I'm a guy today but a girl tomorrow" shit sounds like a complete LARP. To make things more interesting, one can now be "transracial" and/or "transspecies". I once read a blog post that was written by an "earthworm" that lamented about how people were judging "it". In pre-"progressive" times, such types would be told to go seek help. Maybe we should start doing that again. wink

#61 Re: Off-topic » OT nonsense » 2022-07-25 18:52:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
brocashelm wrote:

There are only two genders: male and female.

Those aren't genders, they're sexes. Learn the difference.

Do you know the origins of the term "gender identity"? It's quite recent, too.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

And there are various intersex conditions btw so even there the choice is not binary.

Intersex demographics make up less than two percent of the world population, though. Usually, only one of the two genitals is fully functioning. It's a condition, just like being born with six fingers or two heads (conjoined twins). That is different from some random AGP or cross dresser getting off on wearing women's clothing and then claiming to have "gender dysphoria".

#62 Re: Off-topic » OT nonsense » 2022-07-25 18:26:16

"Racist" is a code for anti-white. The favorite "card" pulled by those who want to exit an argument "gracefully". Most corporations are self-hating whites and international commies.

golinux wrote:

Good grief . . . The problem isn't "out there". It's in YOUR head!  OUR heads. The perceived external differences are irrelevant.  The labels are irrelevant. The identifications are irrelevant. We all are living in a mental fabrication. It is about choice..

It is happening outside. Don't you realize it, with all the atrocities going on in the last several years and decades? The international bankers have never profited this much off a crisis (that they created themselves). Slowly, but surely, more people are waking up to this shit. Just like the problem of Systemd, and Devuan was created in response to it. If you see corruption, won't you speak up about it?

kyuss wrote:
Kelsoo wrote:
kyuss wrote:

No refunds vaxxie.

Double fuckwit month.

charliebrownau. I take it you're an albino Indigenous Australian.

Atleast im not double jabbed!

I didn't even get my "first" one -- I've realized it was a scam all along. The amount of sheep lining up for them, even to this day when "cases" are allegedly "going down", is astronomical. We are truly living in a Clown World. Give it until 2030 for the herd to be weeded out. You will own nothing and you will be happy.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT: and just for the record I am a white cis male (they/them). I apologise on behalf of my race.

"Cis"? There are only two genders: male and female. If you have a Y chromosome, you're male. No amount of HRT or surgery can change this. "Gender identity" is a lie perpetuated by psychopaths interested in forcing their degenerate garbage on children.

#63 Re: Devuan » Experiences with Ceres? » 2022-07-08 01:35:46

Been using it for two years and counting. It's the only Devuan I really use. I had problems with Chimaera when it was still in testing, whereas stable and unstable have always been reliable for me.

I use a couple of third-party repositories (e.g. Deb Multimedia, Oibaf's Updated Open Graphics Drivers, WineHQ) that actually complement my installs, in case certain packages aren't available from Devuan. If I can't find something available that's tedious to build from source, I opt for AppImages (e.g. DuckStation).

I also recommend Bgstack15's repositories for Ceres users, especially for software such as LibreWolf and MakeMKV (makemkv-bin).

#64 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Synaptic Daedalus » 2022-07-08 01:27:07

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT: yet another indication of the superior usability of unstable compared to testing. The OP should probably at least add the ceres sources to pull from if critical system components are needed in future; testing can stay broken for a while sometimes.

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … le_literal

I agree. I haven't changed back to stable for the past two years. It helps to have firsthand experience with GNU/Linux before taking this route, but I've had very little worries at most. Bugs get fixed much quicker because of active development at hand.

#65 Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-07-08 01:22:41

brocashelm
Replies: 94

What we've suspected all along...

But, what will happen to the distros that fundamentally depend on Systemd? If there's any indication with Ubuntu-based distros switching to Debian, and now this happens.

Yesterday's surprise was that Lennart Poettering quietly had left Red Hat following a decade and a half there leading PulseAudio among other projects and ultimately going on to start systemd that has fundamentally reshaped modern Linux distributions. It turns out he had joined Microsoft and continuing his work on systemd.

After yesterday's article about Lennart no longer being at Red Hat, I began receiving tips that the systemd creator had some time back quietly joined Microsoft along with various public comments on Twitter and other mediums by individuals suggesting he joined the Redmond company... At first I thought they were jokes or just snarky remarks, but after a day of following up with folks, it actually turns out not to be a joke.

The prominent open-source developer responsible for several prominent projects joined Microsoft and continuing his focus on systemd development. While some may not always align with his views or approaches to handling some things, there is no overstating his enormous contributions to the Linux/open-source world and his dedication to advancing the ecosystem over the years.

This may take many by surprise but let's not forget Microsoft has over time employed a number of Linux developers and other prominent open-source developers... Microsoft currently employs Python creator Guido van Rossum, GNOME creator Miguel de Icaza had been employed by Microsoft from 2016 when they acquired Xamarin to earlier this year when he left, Nat Friedman as part of Xamarin-Microsoft served as GitHub CEO following Microsoft's acquisition, Gentoo Linux founder Daniel Robbins was previously employed by Microsoft, Steve French as the Linux CIFS/SMB2/SMB3 maintainer and Samba team member works for Microsoft, and Microsoft employs/previously-employed a large number of upstream Linux developers like Matteo Croce, Matthew Wilcox, Tyler Hicks, Shyam Prasad N, Michael Kelley, and many others beyond just the usual immediately recognizable names to Linux enthusiasts/developers. It was also just earlier this year that Christian Brauner as another longtime Linux kernel developer joined Microsoft. Christian Brauner is Berlin-based like Lennart and moved on to Microsoft after the past half-decade at Canonical working on the Linux kernel, LXC, systemd, and more.

With Linux being widespread on Azure, Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) continuing to prove successful, Microsoft working on Mesa as part of supporting various graphics/compute APIs atop Direct3D 12, ensuring good Hyper-V support within the Linux kernel, and maintaining various internal Linux distributions like CBL-Mariner and Azure Cloud Switch, Microsoft continues attracting more upstream Linux developers including some of the well known faces of the open-source ecosystem. Microsoft has been full of Linux/open-source surprises for many years. Now Microsoft has another key upstream developer with vast experience while able to continue his focus working on systemd.

Microsoft Careers currently shows 663 job postings mentioning Linux.

#66 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work » 2022-06-11 03:52:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Ask NVIDIA to stop being such a bunch of twats. Or buy a graphics card from a manufacturer that doesn't hate the open source community.

This is not a Devuan problem, it is an NVIDIA problem.

Correct, this has to do with the GPU and its manufacturer's disdain for the open-source community. Even Intel contributes to them.

This has nothing at all to do with whether or not you're using the unstable versions of either Debian or Devuan. Some workarounds exist, but are not foolproof.

Have a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

#67 Re: Off-topic » Is wayland the new systemd ? » 2022-06-11 03:39:02

I thought I'd drop this blog post made by one of the Artix GNU/Linux developers who'd used Wayland in the last few years and realized it's an unstable, messy piece of software "managed" by totally irresponsible groups.

Wayland Isn't Going to Save The Linux Desktop
June 10, 2022

As you all know, the Linux desktop is dominated by Xorg. The X11 protocol originated in the 80s which later ended up being adopted by Linux desktop systems. It survived all the way to this day as Xorg, and I'm using it right now to make this post. While it is remarkable that X11 has survived so long, it's certainly not flawless. There's some questionable parts of the core protocol and old legacy baggage that is still carried to this day. Developers, unsurprisingly, wanted a fresh start from scratch free from all the legacy, dated decisions that X11 made. This is what led to the birth of Wayland, way back in 2008.

In recent years, Wayland's push to the Linux desktop space accelerated, and users could actually start using this "new" (not really new but...) protocol as their daily driver on the desktop. I, myself, was one of the early adopters in those days. The promise was a clean, lean protocol designed for modern systems that could handle all the complexities people expect in today's computing. The major GUI toolkits have all implemented Wayland support. There are several big name Wayland compositors. Other major applications like Firefox, Chromium, etc. support it now and have for years. So with all of these pieces in place, why aren't we all living in a glorious Wayland future? Sure, those guys on Nvidia may have some issues, but it should be smooth sailing for everyone else. Right?

...

#68 Re: Installation » alternatives to Mozilla's and Chomethings » 2022-05-16 02:09:29

dodcel wrote:

Hi.
Is Pale Moon in Devuan repositories?

No, but there are some third-party repositories you can try, such as this one. Just match the codename to your current distro. You can also just download the official binaries from Pale Moon (they come with builtin update managers, so no need to worry about being behind a version).

#69 Re: Off-topic » Is wayland the new systemd ? » 2022-04-16 21:55:01

The amount of shilling for Wayland is preposterous, particularly by those who use distros without Systemd. I also think that D-Bus, Polkit (formerly PolicyKit), GVfs, Avahi, and PulseAudio being forced onto essential packages is every bit as bad. I remove what I can before ending up with a broken, unusable system (especially in D-Bus' case). Even things like Elogind are not what I desire, but it is what it is.

#70 Re: Off-topic » Why don't we just fork systemd and remove unneccessary bloat? » 2022-04-16 21:49:17

Even if it could be "fully removed" from a Debian system and replaced with an init of your choosing, that ship has sailed a long time ago...

#71 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] scid phalanx or toga not found » 2022-04-16 21:45:35

Which Devuan version are you experiencing problems in? Are the following packages installed?
libtcl8.6 libtk8.6 phalanx scid scid-data tcl tcl8.6 tk tk8.6 toga2

#72 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Audacity and Musescore Spyware problem » 2021-07-16 14:34:59

I had a full response typed up, but erased it at the last minute because I'd be wasting my time.

Moderators, feel free to delete all the posts I've made including the replies to them. I will be stepping out gracefully from this forum. Cheers.

#73 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Audacity and Musescore Spyware problem » 2021-07-14 03:01:48

zapper wrote:

If your laughing at it, its because you are antisocial probably... or you don't know the news of sneedacity and their 4chan bs trying to intimidate cookie engineer.

Yup, and I'm laughing at it more and more with each passing day. I only feel sorry for the gullible fools who buy into outright lies and deception.

zapper wrote:

Besides, you do realize that the trolls at sneedacity threatened cookie engineer and his family right?

There is no evidence of this, as I said already. Do you know what schizophrenia is? He could also be staging all this "drama" all along. Anyone can write numbers on sticky notes and make a house look like there was a murder. I've seen this time and time again on the Internet. Nothing changes.

zapper wrote:

Yeah... I would stop for that reason above alone.

Feel free to. As for myself, I'll keep calling a spade a spade. Sneedacity has barely been around for two weeks and is already proving to be the best thing since sliced bread. Even the Audacium developers admitted in an IRC conversation to borrowing code from Sneedacity for a commit. If Sneedacity wasn't a serious project, then why even acknowledge their existence? That's how I know Sneedacity is the true winner. Give it up.

zapper wrote:

EDIT: After seeing the commens you just posted, I realize I might have been right the first time.

Well, with a signature like that, I'm surprised you don't spend more time on the Antix forums. That's more your crowd, I reckon. Devuan has no politics (left or right).

#74 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Audacity and Musescore Spyware problem » 2021-07-09 17:01:30

steve_v wrote:

Well, you do you and all that. I'll take sneedacity seriously when the volume of functional, constructive commits exceeds that of asinine juvenile memeing, "easter eggs", and changing the names of anything and everything to be as offensive as possible.
That kind of behaviour might fly on the 'chans, but it's a lousy way to run a software project.

It now has XDG support, which is essential from a technical point of view. I don't have a problem with people on the Internet having a sense of humor while making a robust piece of software to go along with it. Better than being plain and boring, which is unfortunately the issue with a lot of open-source software these days.

#75 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Audacity and Musescore Spyware problem » 2021-07-08 15:02:41

steve_v wrote:

Personally I suggest waiting until the 4chan-powered clown-car pulls all the way out of the station before labelling anything "official".
While I do find both the name and the ongoing flamewar(s) somewhat amusing, right now picking out the competent developers from the trolls and small children is an exercise in futility. Time alone will tell which fork is in it for the long-game.

Nah, I think it's off to a solid start. Forks usually take a while to get the hang of, having just been launched. Also, they have an IRC channel that's gaining traction.

steve_v wrote:

Arguing over a name is indeed funny, the doxxing and real-world harassment it lead to is not.

Neither actually happened. I looked into the archives and screenshots myself, and he's clearly getting off on the attention he's been receiving. He's being put on blast for his shady online comments (along with writing slurs himself). His faux victimhood ironically makes him more likely to do the creepy stalking than a typical anon. 4chan's only mistake is giving him said attention. He'd be just another lonely GitHub maintainer without their "harassment".

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