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#551 Re: DIY » A Survey of User-made Content » 2023-02-04 16:11:02

boughtonp wrote:

What would be the benefit of a Devuan-specific community repository, as opposed to a Debian-wide one?

Unless you're not intending it to be Devuan-specific, in which case I amend the above to: what would you consider to be the benefits of a Debian-wide community repository?

I imagine that a Debian-wide community repository would not exclude software that requires systemd. One for Devuan would need to exclude things that won't install on Devuan. If you're running Debian, you will probably be able to use anything that's in the crapton repo.

#552 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-02-03 12:39:44

zapper wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

The version of live-boot in daedalus/ceres is still broken. Use the deb packages for live-boot and live-boot-initramfs-tools in the same sourceforge directory I linked in my last post.

Make sure you dd the iso to the whole device, not to a partition. ( to /dev/sdb and not to /dev/sdb1 for example.)

So qemu-system-x86_64 isn't a way to do so?

Aka, with the command parameters from earlier in this thread only slightly different.

Btw, if it doesn't work properly installing via qemu on a vm, that's usually a sign of somrthing needs to be fixed.

wink

If live-boot is broken (can't find the mount command) then it doesn't matter if you install to VM or hardware.

However...  the fixed version of live-boot is now in sid/ceres and will soon be in daedalus.

$ apt policy live-boot
...
  Version table:
     1:20230131 10
         10 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
 

#553 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2023-01-30 19:35:03

There does not seem to be a metapackage in debian for the ukui desktop. It looks like you have to install the parts separately. I tried a few that I thought would pull in the main parts of the desktop, but they did not. (ukui-session-manager, ukui-sessionserver, ukui-desktopserver).

I would expect to see a package called ukui, or ukui-desktop and probably task-ukui-desktop, too. Didn't find them in sid or at salsa.debian.org.

You could install the ukui parts after an install of the base system without a desktop, or you could install the base system and drop to a shell before exiting the installer, and install the parts in a chroot. (the installer makes this easy). My preference is to reboot into the installed base system first, and then add other things. Seems to be safer and easier in the long run.

#554 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Disk blockdevice detecting order scrambled after every boot » 2023-01-29 18:34:09

TCH wrote:

Well, the order was the same for 11 years, across several versions of several distributions, including Devuan. Is there a chance that this was only coincidence?

Yes, there's a chance it's coincidence. I've gotten away with using device names instead of uuids many times, even though the recommendation to use uuids in fstab goes back to some older version of debian that pre-dates devuan. I forget which one.  (squeeze? wheezy?)

#555 Re: Freedom Hacks » Tinfoil Tuxery - Packages_of_interest » 2023-01-29 13:38:54

Another helpful tip - you can avoid installing Recommends with:

apt --no-install-recommends install <package>

Redshift will install without geoclue this way. (Edit: and without avahi-daemon.)

#556 Re: Freedom Hacks » Tinfoil Tuxery - Packages_of_interest » 2023-01-28 17:10:00

Altoid wrote:

I wonder if there's a way to scan the whole Debian/Devuan package information database to filter the packages that list zeitgeist (or its libraries) as a suggests or depends.
.

apt rdepends zeitgeist

will show packages that depend on zeitgeist. I don't know an easy way to get Recommends or Suggests.

Maybe some good tips here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=511

#557 Re: Off-topic » Should someone use openai ChatGPT? » 2023-01-28 16:33:11

56jhonsmith wrote:

Why don’t you tell me?

"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

#558 Re: DIY » sudo and slim » 2023-01-28 16:05:24

I read through this thread quickly and may have missed something, but it sounds like you're trying to make changes in a running live session. Or maybe you're surgically modifying the iso file and then booting the result. Those ways sound difficult to me. Easier is to install devuan into a spare partition or into a virtual machine, configure it the way you want, and then run refractasnapshot.

To boot the live isos without autologin, add the word noautologin to the boot command.

To boot the live isos without sudo, add nocomponents=sudo to the boot command.

Read man live-config for more.

#559 Re: Devuan » what's going on with aufs? » 2023-01-27 21:26:57

You'll also need to recompile the kernel to support aufs. (or use one that does support it)

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't understand what you're trying to do.

#560 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] consolekit requirement » 2023-01-23 22:26:22

I was wrong. That package is gone and consolekit was rebuilt without the dep on libcgmanager0.

If you refuse aptitude's first suggestion, it should give you other possible solutions.

Edit: if that doesn't work, whatever is wrong will get fixed tomorrow or so.

#561 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] consolekit requirement » 2023-01-23 21:51:09

This post intentionally left blank.

After update, it's gone.

$ apt policy libcgmanager0
libcgmanager0:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)

#562 Re: Devuan » finit: new init system option for Devuan daedalus » 2023-01-22 23:29:34

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Look:

empty@P14s:~ $ pgrep -a dbus
1|empty@P14s:~ $

^ This is not possible with the other init systems.

I guess I'm not understanding what you're saying here. It is possible to run sysvinit without dbus. This is in a daedalus live-iso made last May.

user@refracta-nodbus:~$ pgrep -a dbus
user@refracta-nodbus:~$ 
user@refracta-nodbus:~$ dpkg -l |grep sysvinit
ii  live-config-sysvinit             11.0.3+devuan2                         all          Live System Configuration Components (sysvinit backend)
ii  sysvinit-core                    3.03-1devuan1                          amd64        System-V-like init
ii  sysvinit-utils                   3.03-1devuan1                          amd64        System-V-like utilities

#563 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-19 18:22:17

aluma wrote:

1. During installation, formatting is mandatory for the "/" partition and is not allowed without a direct user selection for the /home partition.

I don't understand what you are saying here, but it sounds wrong.

It is not mandatory for the installer to format the chosen partition(s) but it is mandatory for them to have a filesystem if you want them to contain files, and formatting is the default setting.

You can partition and format before running the installer and tell the installer not to format. That's a checkbox in the options menu of the graphical installer and it's a config file setting in the cli installer.

You have the choice to install the entire system to one partition, or you could optionally have separate partitions for /boot and/or /home.

The installer doesn't know what to do with your old home or the user configs it contains. It's up to you to figure out any conflicts caused by mismatched or missing config files caused by sharing a home between two different operating systems.

#564 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-19 13:56:10

deepforest, I would like to see the installation log (refractainstaller.log) that should be in the user's home directory. You can post it here or paste.debian.net or email it to me through the forum. Thanks.

#565 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-19 02:16:28

It shouldn't matter that your partition was mounted, because you should not be selecting that pre-existing home partition during the installation. Please be aware that the default action is to format any partitions you select. If you select a partition with data you want to keep, you will lose it.

#566 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-18 22:55:10

Camtaf's diagnosis is probably correct. I've sometimes seen remnant /target_home and /target_boot directories that didn't get cleaned up correctly, but they are just mountpoints and are always empty on reboot.

Also, that first option in the live installer, "Create new, separate /home partition" is not the same thing as "Re-use an existing /home partition that already has files on it." That latter option doesn't exist. If you want to re-use an existing home, just let the installer put /home in the root partition and edit your fstab afterward. I recommend keeping the user configs from the live install in case you need to use them. Just rename /home to /home.live or something like that.

#567 Re: Other Issues » [Ceres] apt: initramfs-tools post-installation error [SOLVED] » 2023-01-15 19:02:06

I built live-boot packages with the fix and put them here for people to use until debian builds them. I really hope we don't have to fork live-boot for this.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/

live-boot, live-boot-initramfs-tools and live-boot doc all from 2022-12-16.

#568 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » fluxbox: no window decoration in firefox and thunderbird » 2023-01-09 21:26:09

Fluxbox-1.4 is not in sid/ceres yet, so I guess you'd have to compile it yourself. That might be easy or not. I don't know. It may not make it into sid in time for bookworm/daedalus.

#569 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » fluxbox: no window decoration in firefox and thunderbird » 2023-01-08 20:48:21

You might have older deb packages in /var/cache/apt/archives but if they're from beowulf, they're a lot less likely to work than if they are previous versions from chimaera.

I tested on a T450s, running amd64.

#570 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » fluxbox: no window decoration in firefox and thunderbird » 2023-01-08 19:50:01

If I use lxrandr in xfce to change the resolution as described in my previous post, it does not cause the problem with firefox. It only happens in fluxbox.

#571 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » fluxbox: no window decoration in firefox and thunderbird » 2023-01-08 19:31:29

Is this an issue with client-side decorations? If so, make sure gtk3-nocsd is installed.

For the live isos, root password is toor, user name is devuan and user's password is devuan.

Edit: It's not a CSD problem. I just got the same behavior. I added fluxbox, logged out and into fluxbox, changed the display with lxrandr from 1600x900 to 1360x768. Firefox lost its window border and controls. I changed back to 1600x900 using lxrandr and the window borders did not return.

I'm back in xfce now and everything is normal.

#572 Re: Installation » Does sysvinit make you wait for rebooting if NFS was cut off? » 2023-01-07 21:52:35

I just tested this, and yes, there's a delay on reboot if the nfs server goes down while the share is mounted. The delay was less than 10 seconds on an old thinkpad with an i5 cpu. To avoid the delay before attempting reboot, you can unmount the share with

umount -l <nfs-share-mountpoint>

There might be a way to shorten the timeout on the delay, but I don't know where that would be.

#573 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2022-12-30 23:49:24

The version of live-boot in daedalus/ceres is still broken. Use the deb packages for live-boot and live-boot-initramfs-tools in the same sourceforge directory I linked in my last post.

Make sure you dd the iso to the whole device, not to a partition. ( to /dev/sdb and not to /dev/sdb1 for example.)

#574 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2022-12-30 22:29:06

oui wrote:

Hello

I wish all people a merry new year 2023!

Gnuinos for i686: the new release of refracta snapshot causes that the USB stick can't be found to start linux starting the snapshot from USB.

can someone having a good working version upload a snapshot INCLUDING refracta tools?

I don't understand what problem you are having or what you are asking for. If you want the previous version of refracasnapshot or any older version, they are here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools

What version of gnuinos/devuan are you using and how did you prepare the usb stick?

#575 Re: Devuan » Hardening Linux, minimal, to ultra. » 2022-12-18 12:53:25

andyp67 wrote:

Why don't I have /var/log/messages anymore,
not because I have noatime in fstab, and rsync installed.
I hope it's not a new feature.
tail -f /var/log/messages is handy.
I have a minimal console install, I'm being extremely careful, I havn't broken anything, I do that in a RefractaSS.

You might be running into this problem:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5096

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