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#1 2023-01-10 15:23:05

MrReplikant
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A Survey of User-made Content

Full Disclosure: I act alone in this, this is not put on by the Devuan team themselves.

I would like to know who all here has software they have or would like to package for Devuan, but can't due to the limitations on Devuan's official resources. This is following up on the end of the discussion in "My crappy radio player". This is intended to get a better idea of how much "community" software would be out there for Devuan, and whether or not it's enough to make a dedicated community repository worthwhile.

Again, this is a PRELIMINARY survey, nothing is set in stone yet, I just want to get a feel of the total extent.

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#2 2023-01-11 08:59:26

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Believe it or not, but for my daily drivers, my printservers, camservers and NFS-servers there is nothing I'm missing. I use Chimaera ans 2 Daedalus installations and everything I need is in the repositories. It was never necessary to compile a program from source. So I'm quite happy with Devuan. Maybe I'm unpretentious, but thats my situation. 

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#3 2023-01-12 12:02:00

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

I have several things... tongue ...that I've built (aka coded) and include with MiyoLinux releases, but I don't think they're really worth making "repository builds" for; they're basically just convenience-items that I include on MiyoLinux.  wink

Perhaps My Crappy Radio Player and the MiyoLinux Update Notifier (which I don't actually include in MiyoLinux releases) may be of interest to some folks? I don't know, but I would be glad to package them for a Community Repository if desired.


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#4 2023-01-13 21:11:44

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

MiyoLinux wrote:

I have several things... tongue ...that I've built (aka coded) and include with MiyoLinux releases, but I don't think they're really worth making "repository builds" for; they're basically just convenience-items that I include on MiyoLinux.  wink

Perhaps My Crappy Radio Player and the MiyoLinux Update Notifier (which I don't actually include in MiyoLinux releases) may be of interest to some folks? I don't know, but I would be glad to package them for a Community Repository if desired.

jwmkit is a good example of this
sct which is set color temperature is a massively huge example of this. faf currently is working on a fork of sct,  that is more or less, a continuation of it.

Noods is good, for a DS emulator.  its pronounced like this tho:

Noo-ds.

I feel the need to mention to him that he may want to space it to make sure people know its not called Noods.

tongue

multiload-ng-systray is another

Btw, if you want more examples for community software that is actually good, hyperbola.info has a crapton of reasonable lightweight software packages for said purpose.

I currently am in the process of convincing a dev on the team to ditch redshift in favor of set color temperature. The one from the faf repo. smile

This all being said, this idea is in fact good.

Whoever makes this repository, I recommend you, add specifically, stuff that either

A: Debian doesn't have due to selfishness, meaning like their ideology about how wonderful it is to use redhat bloated frameworks

B: Debian cannot support even if they wanted to, which is a less guilty reason... tongue

C: Stuff neither Devuan or Debian has.  Innocent reasoning...

D:  Specifically lightweight packages that aren't traditionally available or are outdated as all hell and get important fixes from time to time.

Or E:  some mixture of the above or something else entirely.

Btw, when I gave these reasons, I speak of course, of packages that are not usually supported, etc...

@jwmkit I took your offer up to make a mention here

Btw,  I thought of something new as an idea, assuming you haven't already done this, make it so we can add icons from a zip directly into jwmkit instead of the standard ones. For everything we usually use it for, etc...

Meaning when we use jwm.

I had heard of this window manager called uwm, but I haven't figured out how to use it, hence why I want to try their icons out for my purposes.

wink

Btw, hopefully someday HyperbolaBSD becomes a beta or beyond, but if that day comes, I hope you guys will at a some point, choose to make your own forks, or help with it, etc...

I do recall seeing some people at one point who had interest in a Devuan flavored HyperbolaBSD type blend.

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#5 2023-01-14 01:20:01

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

I was waiting for @zappers input from our discussion before making the suggest  of JWMKit as a possibility for this repository, but I see he already jumped in head first. wink   I guess he's quicker to action than I am.  Thanks

JWMKit is not in the Debian repository and the project was originally release here on these forums as a Refracta build of Devuan.  I do maintain debs so it should be easy to add to the repository and keep up to date.

I think it would also be nice to see things like JWM themes in the repository, and custom Devuan wallpapers, icons, etc.  Or archives of older Devuan artwork that is not in the current release.

Also having the repository would help deliver the newest versions to the user of my Devuan based JWMKit Linux.

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#6 2023-01-14 02:21:38

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

JWM-Kit wrote:

I was waiting for @zappers input from our discussion before making the suggest  of JWMKit as a possibility for this repository, but I see he already jumped in head first. wink   I guess he's quicker to action than I am.  Thanks

JWMKit is not in the Debian repository and the project was originally release here on these forums as a Refracta build of Devuan.  I do maintain debs so it should be easy to add to the repository and keep up to date.

I think it would also be nice to see things like JWM themes in the repository, and custom Devuan wallpapers, icons, etc.  Or archives of older Devuan artwork that is not in the current release.

Also having the repository would help deliver the newest versions to the user of my Devuan based JWMKit Linux.

I thought that was already obvious... I was confused why you didn't reply here sooner.

xD


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#7 2023-01-14 02:41:16

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

zapper wrote:

has a crapton of ...

Now you're getting into my happy space! Hahahahahaha! Well said man...well said! smile
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#8 2023-01-14 04:03:33

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

JWM-Kit wrote:

I think it would also be nice to see things like JWM themes in the repository, and custom Devuan wallpapers, icons, etc.  Or archives of older Devuan artwork that is not in the current release.

FYI . . . all the previous Devuan artwork is archived on our git as raw files and all the Clearlooks-Phoenix-*  debs are still available in the Chimaera repos and likely Daedalus too!

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#9 2023-01-14 18:26:20

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

JWM-Kit wrote:

I was waiting for @zappers input from our discussion before making the suggest  of JWMKit as a possibility for this repository, but I see he already jumped in head first. wink   I guess he's quicker to action than I am.  Thanks

JWMKit is not in the Debian repository and the project was originally release here on these forums as a Refracta build of Devuan.  I do maintain debs so it should be easy to add to the repository and keep up to date.

I think it would also be nice to see things like JWM themes in the repository, and custom Devuan wallpapers, icons, etc.  Or archives of older Devuan artwork that is not in the current release.

Also having the repository would help deliver the newest versions to the user of my Devuan based JWMKit Linux.

So what does JWMkit....do?


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#10 2023-01-14 19:22:11

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

golinux wrote:

FYI . . . all the previous Devuan artwork is archived on our git as raw files and all the Clearlooks-Phoenix-*  debs are still available in the Chimaera repos and likely Daedalus too!

Thanks.  I remember seeing it when browsing the git, but I forgot about it.  I just needed reminded.

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#11 2023-01-14 19:48:10

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

MrReplikant wrote:

So what does JWMkit....do?

I'll keep my answer short so not to derail this thread.

JWMKit's goal is to provide JWM (Joe's WIndow Manager) with the easy of use found in much more complicated window managers and desktop environments.

I consider JWM the lightest of the window managers.  So JWMKit with JWM can provide an ultra lightweight system that is easy to use.

Check out the links in my signature for more info.  The wiki would be a good place to start.

I am the author and maintainer of JWMKit.  JWMkit should works on any distro, but in it's early days development specifically targeted Devuan.

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#12 2023-01-14 19:58:44

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

@JWM-Kit . . . This discussion piqued my interest so I went to your website and at the top of the page found this:

JavaScript error: TypeError: window.customElements is undefined (https://design.codeberg.org/components/codeberg-components.js @ 2:145333). Open browser console to see more details.
JavaScript error: TypeError: window.customElements is undefined (https://design.codeberg.org/components/codeberg-components.js @ 2:145333). Open browser console to see more details.
JavaScript error: SyntaxError: expected expression, got keyword 'import' (https://codeberg.org/assets/stlview.js @ 11:8). Open browser console to see more details.

Oops! Have no idea whether that is under your control but should probably be fixed . . . : )

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#13 2023-01-14 20:05:46

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

@golinux: which browser are you using? The codeberg site works fine for me with Firefox v108.0.2.


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#14 2023-01-14 20:11:08

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

@golinux
Thanks.  It's out of my control.  it's up to codeberg.  Everything works for me.  So maybe try it again latter?

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#15 2023-01-14 22:26:02

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

@golinux: which browser are you using? The codeberg site works fine for me with Firefox v108.0.2.

102.6.0esr (64-bit)

SNS strikes again . . . This perpetual arms race is exhausting . . .

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#16 2023-01-14 22:29:08

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The codeberg site works fine for me with Firefox v108.0.2.

Wait just a stinkin' minute...

I thought you didn't like that shite???

HAHAHAHAHA!!! tongue


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#17 2023-01-14 23:03:32

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

MiyoLinux wrote:

I thought you didn't like that shite?

Ahem:

$ pacman -Q firefox
firefox 108.0.2-1
$

Also: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-p … BUILD#L142

tongue


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#18 2023-01-14 23:15:48

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

I know this is currently just in discussion, but if this comes to fruition can I suggest it be called "The Devuan Community's  Crapton Repository" or the DCCR for short.  Of course in the Devuan community It will simple be known as Crapton.

-- to be clear, I'm not expecting anyone to take this suggestion seriously.

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#19 2023-01-14 23:24:20

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

I thought you didn't like that shite?

Ahem:

$ pacman -Q firefox
firefox 108.0.2-1
$

Also: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-p … BUILD#L142

tongue

Sorry...I had to delete and edit my previous post since JWM-Kit responded while I was typing. tongue

Here's what I wrote...

Bwahahaha! big_smile

Touché  tongue

Hey man...I don't know if this will mean anything to you brother, but here's what I get when I try clicking on the link in your signature...

I'm too much of a conspiracy-theorist to allow it... -_-

2023-01-14-181357-1366x768-scrot.png

big_smile


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#20 2023-01-14 23:27:15

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

JWM-Kit wrote:

I know this is currently just in discussion, but if this comes to fruition can I suggest it be called "The Devuan Community's  Crapton Repository" or the DCCR for short.  Of course in the Devuan community It will simple be known as Crapton.

-- to be clear, I'm not expecting anyone to take this suggestion seriously.

I don't know, but I think Crapton is a great name for it...but that's just me and my quirkyness...  tongue


I have been Devuanated, and my practice in the art of Devuanism shall continue until my Devuanization is complete. Until then, I will strive to continue in my understanding of Devuanchology, Devuanprocity, and Devuanivity.

Veni, vidi, vici vdevuaned. I came, I saw, I Devuaned. wink

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#21 2023-01-14 23:27:50

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

JWM-Kit wrote:

I'm not expecting anyone to take this suggestion seriously.

Too late — I've set it up over at my OBS account:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show … Stick:DCCR

big_smile

EDIT:

@Miyo: the SSL certificate expired last year. Those bloody anarchists need to get organised...

Just click on "Advanced" then add an exception for the site but be warned that viewing it will probably land you on an FBI watchlist.

Make no mistake: I am a dangerous far-left radical hell bent on overthrowing Western "civilisation".

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2023-01-14 23:30:18)


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#22 2023-01-14 23:36:51

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

@Miyo: the SSL certificate expired last year. Those bloody anarchists need to get organised...

Just click on "Advanced" then add an exception for the site but be warned that viewing it will probably land you on an FBI watchlist.

yikes

Perhaps this means that when I visit London, you won't be giving me a ride on your motorbike...and wrecking with me as a passenger in the process???

LOLOLOL!!! tongue


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#23 2023-01-14 23:42:05

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Too late — I've set it up over at my OBS account:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show … Stick:DCCR

Sweet.  I didn't say I wasn't serious, just that I didn't expect anyone to take me serious.  big_smile

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#24 2023-01-14 23:45:06

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
JWM-Kit wrote:

I'm not expecting anyone to take this suggestion seriously.

Too late — I've set it up over at my OBS account:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show … Stick:DCCR

big_smile

EDIT:

@Miyo: the SSL certificate expired last year. Those bloody anarchists need to get organised...

Just click on "Advanced" then add an exception for the site but be warned that viewing it will probably land you on an FBI watchlist.

Make no mistake: I am a dangerous far-left radical hell bent on overthrowing Western "civilisation".

I'm just getting off from working 36 hours straight...

I'll make .deb packages for My Crappy Radio Player and the MiyoLinux Update Notifier after I've had time to recover. HoaS, what do I need to do in order to upload them to your site?


I have been Devuanated, and my practice in the art of Devuanism shall continue until my Devuanization is complete. Until then, I will strive to continue in my understanding of Devuanchology, Devuanprocity, and Devuanivity.

Veni, vidi, vici vdevuaned. I came, I saw, I Devuaned. wink

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#25 2023-01-14 23:51:15

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Re: A Survey of User-made Content

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Make no mistake: I am a dangerous far-left radical hell bent on overthrowing Western "civilisation".

Cool...I'm a dangerous far-right radical hell bent on overthrowing Western "civilization"

So there...


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