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Just installed 64bit live to my old HP-G62, (2GB ram/2GB swap) - also installed 32bit live to an old Toshiba Satellite Pro, (1GB ram/2GB swap), both seem to be working fine. ![]()
The doas program is an updated sudo basically, with less options making for more security, first appeared on OpenBSD. ![]()
Did you check that your download/s was/were good?
(Personally, never had a problem with the 'live' image.)
Possibly, your graphics aren't supported, but rare these days.
Check all physical connections, etc.
They tend to stick with tried & tested kernels, if you want the latest, you might have to use 'sid'.
Many thanks!
I was needing the extra parameter with apt-get, (my 'usual' way of package management).
What exactly do I need to do, please.
:~$ sudo apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [26.3 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.8 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease [26.7 kB]
Reading package lists... Done
E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-security' to 'stable-security'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.19.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.118-2 (2020-04-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux
I think, if I remember right, you have only bought the right to use MS Windows, a kind of lease, you don't own it outright - which was another reason for using Linux for me.
I would prefer to use totally open software & hardware, but it won't happen, because companies spend billions to bring new products to market, to stay ahead of their competitors.
But.......don't all processor chips have proprietary code in them......I really can't see much difference - but blobs can be updated by a user, or maybe even replaced by different code.
Not sure what to make of your comments, I have Devuan on all my RPi, 3A+ / 3B+ / 4B / 400, works well as a basic desktop computer for me.
For a regular desktop user, i.e. internet, photos, music, movies, wordprocessor, spreadsheet user, a Raspberry Pi 4B is the answer, & we have Devuan to put onto it - a win/win situation! ![]()
N.B. The RPi4B with 2GB ram is only about £35/$35 & is silent in operation - 4GB is about £55/$55 - 8GB about £75/$75.
Disappointingly, no Flytech Carry1 twin 3.5" floppy, my first computer. ![]()
Sometimes, when you change a setting, all your options get removed, so when you return, you may have lost your options that you had previously set, that's why I asked whether you reset them when you returned to the previous WM theme.
(It was just a thought.)
Normally, I'll use xmms in a GUI, & just mc/mpg123 in the CLI.... ![]()
Camtaf wrote:so far, no hacked backend on ARM that I'm aware of
I think the relative bit is,
a Chinese ARM system-on-a-chip maker, which has recently been caught shipping a version of Linux Kernel with an incredibly simple and easy-to-use built-in backdoor.
That is a 'Chinese' built kernel, not the hardware - your choice of distro to run on a RPi is up to you, not dictated by a manufacturer. ![]()
The hardware is sound, no buggy CPU - just about every computer will use some proprietary equipment or software driver - so far, no hacked backend on ARM that I'm aware of.
Remember too, I'm running Devuan on mine - (no MS repository). ![]()
Linux on Raspberry Pi is the way forwards - for me at least.....especially as I can now have Devuan on them. ![]()
"Minimalism" - is that which allows you to do what you want with the least amount of fuss - not necessarily the absolute smallest program.... ![]()
I've kept my hand in with BSD ever since systemd became a reality - too much Corporate interference going on in Linuxland - I'll be ready, if I have to... ![]()
I did not do anything weird in between those period. What I did was change the Window Manager theme from 'Clearlook-Phenix-Cinnabar' to 'Default-hdpi,' then I changed to 'Default' I mention this because this funny rebooting thing started to happen right after I changed the theme.
Perhaps when you changed to 'Default' it also changed back whatever you set to its default values - did you try resetting what you wanted again(?).
I know from personal experience, with another distro, that changing WMs would reset everything to their default values, even though I'd only just switched - used to annoy me no end. ![]()
Just use Fluxbox..... ![]()
devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_arm64_rpi3.img.zip 04-Mar-2021 22:44 576M
devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_arm64_rpi4.img.zip 04-Mar-2021 22:46 573M
Working well on my RPi3A+ / RPi3B+ // RPi4B / RPi400
Excellent work, thank you. ![]()
Is my interpretation of your statement correct?
Yes. ![]()
Most problems seem to come from some program or other, so upgrading installed programs is mainly what I do - I'm just a 'desktop user''. ![]()
P.S. By the way, I use apt-get, always have, but there's no difference.
To upgrade a kernel...
How To Upgrade Linux Kernel
The easiest way to do this is to install one of the supplied Linux kernel image packages on your system. They may be obtained using apt-get or aptitude if you want to use the command line, or Synaptic if you want to use a GUI.
To install a Linux kernel image, you first have to decide which one you want to use. Start with
apt-cache search linux-image
Note that images are available for several flavours - depending on your architecture.
A good overview on available versions can also be seen at linux.
The latest version can be installed using:
$ sudo apt install linux-image-<flavour>
I only rarely bother, as I normally just update/upgrade the system files, but, if a major flaw has been found, then it's time for a newer kernel.
Since I last posted in this thread, (a year ago), all my machines are running Devuan, mainly brought on by having it available for my RPi4B/400/3B+/3A+ which I really appreciate. ![]()
My regular distro was #! (Crunchbang) for many years, (before systemd existed), & on its demise I transferred to AntiX, using the Base version.
I tried Devuan a couple of times in the mean time, but always returned to AntiX.
I've also used OpenBSD as a fairly regular system on a couple of boxes, because I liked its low footprint - recently I tried NomadBSD, (based on FreeBSD), it runs live, & can be installed - so I did, to all but one of my computers, but felt that the USB transfer speed was just too slow, it only lasted just over a week!
......& so here I am with Devuan on all my machines - desktops, laptops, chromebook, & SBCs. ![]()
So that brings me up to date. ![]()
If you really want to be up to date, you will have to compile the software & kernel yourself - otherwise you have to wait for someone else to do it & post it to the repos. ![]()