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#326 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SSH won't ask to save my password for later in terminal(XFCE) » 2023-11-02 17:42:54

Maybe installing gnome-keyring will do it.

Description: GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools)
 gnome-keyring is a daemon in the session, similar to ssh-agent,
 and other applications can use it to store passwords and other
 sensitive information.
 .
 The program can manage several keyrings, each with its own master
 password, and there is also a session keyring which is never stored to
 disk, but forgotten when the session ends.

#327 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Refracta created live system with auto mounted FAT32 partition » 2023-11-02 14:55:26

You can preserve the /etc/fstab in the source system by commenting out the line for it in /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/snapshot_exclude.list

If that doesn't work for you, there's probably a way to do it with a hook script, which I've used in the past but don't recall how to do it. See the man pages for live-boot and live-config and maybe even the debian-live manual.

#328 Re: Installation » how to change the init system ? » 2023-10-28 19:05:48

sysvinit is just a dummy transitional package. Use "sysvinit-core" instead of "sysvinit" in the above command.

#329 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2023-10-26 13:25:40

Those packages will install in devuan. I tried it. I could not get the system to boot -  something about the virtual machine not supporting efi variables. Maybe someone who knows their way around gummiboot would have a better chance.

#330 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-22 23:19:50

In newer versions of grub, os-prober is disabled by default. Edit /etc/default/grub to enable (un-disable) os-prober. Like this:

# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

And then run update-grub

Note: if you booted into devuan from mx's grub, you'll need to run 'grub-install' from devuan.

If you're using gpt with bios boot instead of uefi, you'll also need a special partition for that. i think it's called bios_grub in gparted and ef02 in gdisk. Needs to be 1mb and have no filesystem on it.

Time for dinner. Yell if this doesn't make sense.

#331 Re: Devuan » Installed Daedalus! » 2023-10-13 22:57:55

If dpkg gives you error messages about missing dependencies, just run apt -f install with no package listed, and it will install the deps if they are in the repo.

#332 Re: Other Issues » Ustable and Testing Systemd. » 2023-10-13 22:54:45

Nice work, Altoid. No, there's no point in continuing. At least their last statement is more accurate than the earlier one.

#333 Re: Other Issues » Ustable and Testing Systemd. » 2023-10-12 22:34:06

# apt install systemd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package systemd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  systemd-standalone-tmpfiles systemd-standalone-sysusers systemd-oomd systemd-boot-efi systemd-boot
  ifupdown

E: Package 'systemd' has no installation candidate

None of the available packages listed contains an init system.
Their descriptions are below. Note the part that says for use in non-systemd systems

Description: standalone tmpfiles binary for use in non-systemd systems
Description: standalone sysusers binary for use in non-systemd systems
Description: userspace out-of-memory (OOM) killer
Description: simple UEFI boot manager - EFI binaries
Description: simple UEFI boot manager - tools and services

#334 Re: Other Issues » Ustable and Testing Systemd. » 2023-10-11 10:04:44

There must be something wrong with whatever generates that list. There's no systemd package in devuan.

root@ceres:/# apt policy systemd
systemd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:

Same as the rest of the banned packages.
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt

#335 Re: Off-topic » Hi all! Back again after many adventures! » 2023-10-06 16:20:17

One thing that happened while you were gone and you already know it is that ascii reached end-of-live and is no longer supported.
But what you may not know is that you can still get the last software updates by changing sources.list to archive.devuan.org instead of deb.devuan.org (or whatever you may have used). I think only main or main and security are enabled.

Oh yeah, maybe try apulse instead of pulseaudio.

#336 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Strange filemanager behaviour » 2023-10-05 19:03:04

One way to get into this situation would be to rsync /DATA to /media/storage/ when nothing is mounted at /media/storage. Then when you do mount something there, it will hide /media/storage/DATA.

To fix it, you could get fancy with overlay mounts so that DATA did not get covered, but moving it out as already suggested is a much better idea.

'locate' shows you what it found the last time updatedb ran, which might be different from what files exist now. updatedb usually runs once a day.

#337 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] service ssh not running » 2023-10-05 18:42:03

I checked this on a daedalus live-iso with runit that I made some time ago. (more than a year, I think,) I get slightly different weirdness.

service tells me that ssh is running. If I try to stop it with 'service ssh stop' it tells me that it's stopped, but then status tells me it's still running.
If I then try 'sv stop ssh' it does stop it (according to service) and then I can stop or start it with the service command. i.e. it only fails the first time.

#338 Re: Off-topic » Hi all! Back again after many adventures! » 2023-10-03 10:15:13

Good call, Camtaf. If you need non-free wireless firmware, add "non-free-firmware" instead of "non-free" to sources.list.

I'm not sure what's in non-free now that they moved the firmware.

#339 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Homeless » 2023-10-03 00:44:39

If you removed or commented the line for the swapfile in /etc/fstab and you rebooted, then you can just delete the swapfile.
If it's still in use, you need to run swapoff /swapfile && rm /swapfile (as root)

You can see how much swap space you have with free -m  If both swap and swapfile are active, it'll show the total size of both.

#340 Re: Off-topic » Hi all! Back again after many adventures! » 2023-10-02 20:03:11

Welcome back and congrats on the house! Nice to see you again. I'm in and out of here a lot. Internet here is as slow as yours is fast.

For 1, 2 and 3... what rolfie said. Or, if you have a beowulf install around, upgrading to chimaera is not bad (i.e. easier than ascii to beowulf) and chimaera to daedalus is even smoother. YMMV depending on desktop and whatever else you have installed.

See you around.

#341 Re: Installation » How can I replace sysv with runit? » 2023-09-30 22:07:51

apt install runit-init

You probably also want runit-services if that doesn't come in automatically.

#342 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-09-27 22:57:31

The-Amnesiac-Philosopher wrote:

Why aren't koalas actually considered to be bears?

Because they're unkoalafied.

tongue

I wish to protest on behalf of the koalas. That was unbearable.

#343 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Switching VT crashes Xorg after upgrade to Daedalus » 2023-09-27 22:51:42

That fixed it. Thanks! I can start a second xserver as another user.

I pinned daedalus-proposed-updates to a lower priority so that I had to specify that I wanted xserver-xorg-core. I got that package and xserver-common without getting other stuff that's currently in proposed-updtaes. I saw some pam stuff and wanted to make sure that just these two packages were needed.

#344 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] sddm not launching on fresh desktop install (kde) » 2023-09-26 12:41:46

Two suggestions.

1. Press ctrl-alt-F7 to see if you can find your running desktop (or graphical login screen)
2. As root, run /etc/init.d/sddm restart and see if you get any useful messages. Try finding the desktop again, too. Maybe check all the vts (ctrl-alt-F1, F2, etc.)

#345 Re: Installation » cannot inform kernel of changes » 2023-09-25 19:59:21

My comment was in regard to following these directions: (emphasis added)

You might try restarting the installer after that happens. If the partition table is as you set it last time, don't write the changes. (i.e., use the drive as-is)

#346 Re: Installation » apt install kde-plasma-desktop recommends systemd » 2023-09-24 15:29:24

I see it in the list of Recommended packages, but it's not in the list of packages to be installed, and I am not excluding Recommends. I'm testing on a daedalus desktop-live iso booted in qemu. Here's where those two Recommends come from. You cannot install them in devuan. You can proceed without excluding Recommends.

root@devuan:/home/devuan# apt rdepends systemd
<systemd>
root@devuan:/home/devuan# aptitude why systemd
i   ntp    Depends    ntpsec
i A ntpsec Recommends systemd | cron | cron-daemon
root@devuan:~# aptitude why systemd-coredump
i   task-xfce-desktop Recommends xfce4-goodies
i A xfce4-goodies     Depends    xfce4-notifyd | notification-daemon | notify-os
                                 d
p   plasma-workspace  Provides   notification-daemon
p   plasma-workspace  Depends    drkonqi (>= 5.27.5~)
p   drkonqi           Recommends systemd-coredump

The desktop-live isos only provide a single desktop, which includes everything you get when you install task-xfce-desktop. If you want a different desktop, it's probably better to use one of the installer isos. You can choose the desktop you want from the installer and get a fat installation with everything, or you can un-check the desktop stuff and start with a console-only system to add exactly what you want.

#347 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Switching VT crashes Xorg after upgrade to Daedalus » 2023-09-23 14:34:50

I can confirm your findings. I have a similar setup but with lxqt instead of xfce and no display manager, and with elogind and seatd installed. Ctrl-alt-F2 drops to console.
Adding a second user, dropping to console to login as that user works, but then startx -- :1 fails.

Here are the Xorg log errors.

[  1363.893] (EE) [libseat/backend/seatd.c:66] Could not connect to socket /run/seatd.sock: Permission denied
[  1364.045] (EE) [libseat/backend/logind.c:137] Could not take device: Device or resource busy
[  1364.045] (EE) seatd_libseat open graphics /dev/dri/card0 (-1) failed: -11
[  1364.086] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1364.088] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1364.103] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
[  1364.105] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission denied
[  1364.106] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[  1364.106] (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section.
[  1364.107] (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section.
[  1364.511] (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied
[  1364.511] (EE) 
[  1364.511] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[  1364.511] (EE) 
[  1364.531] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

#348 Re: Installation » Archiving it -all- » 2023-09-23 12:31:50

Instead of archiving the packages to install, you could just archive the installation itself with all the tools you need already installed and working. Install the system in a virtual machine made with open source tools and you have the entire system inside a single file that you can move around and keep in a safe place.

#349 Re: Installation » cant boot with devuan live usb stick on Windows 11 Pro » 2023-09-21 21:56:44

You probably just need to disable secure boot in the bios/uefi setup.

#350 Re: DIY » Chimaera Minimal Live ISO Customization Question » 2023-09-17 14:09:50

The use for encrypted persistence is so that nobody can steal your live-usb and read your personal files.

Using a usb to provide encryption keys for an installed system is a completely different but equally valid case.

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