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#3151 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [solved] Problems to open synaptic icon. » 2017-06-20 14:42:27

I have a gksu synaptic launcher stacked in the Xfce panel so never have to open from the menu or desktop.  wink  Ditto other root accessible apps.

#3152 Re: Installation » [solved] How to update to ascii? » 2017-06-20 14:38:37

That is what is recommended for jessie on the homepage of devuan.org:

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie          main
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates  main
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main

Here are the same ones for ascii:

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii          main
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main

#3153 Re: Installation » [solved] How to update to ascii? » 2017-06-20 14:06:48

You might do better using 'auto' rather than 'us' mirror

#3154 Re: News & Announcements » AWS AMI Devuan available » 2017-06-19 02:49:28

This just posted on #devuan:

<batmore> golinux,fsmithred,rrq: I checked out Amazon Web Services, Devuan-1.0-TLS by maurorappa... Amazon image for people to use within AWS env.  Very nice installation and setup.  Far and away better than my AWS instance.  The docs for the image are straight forward and correct. You end up with a usable simple install of Devuan Jessie 1.0 with TLS effective (security).  I recommend it as the base, goto AWS AMI image to use within Amazon clo

<batmore> golinux,fsmithred,rrq: for reference... the aws ami image I produced was an adaption of an earlier Debian Wheezy, that was upgraded to Devuan Jessie v1.0. Mine ends up using xilinux for boot rather than grub(2).  Mine is simpler, but maurorappa's image is more true to current Devuan Jessie setup/config.  cheers

Well done maurorappa!!  This is a great addition to our image library.

#3156 Re: Documentation » Draft: "Devuan fact sheet" » 2017-06-18 05:48:44

pekman wrote:

mini.iso => 40MB

I'm not seeing that in the Devuan repos.  Link?

#3157 Re: Documentation » Draft: "Devuan fact sheet" » 2017-06-18 03:50:48

pekman wrote:

minimal.iso is missing In Available images

No, it's there - Minimal Live (~300MB) - unless you're thinking of something else . . .

#3158 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2017-06-18 01:27:30

gorisis wrote:

Hello,

I would like to donate a amount of money on behalf of my company. Will I receive a statement or document I can put in my accountancy?

Many thanks for your work on Devuan.

Issa

Hi gorisis . . .

Thank you for supporting Devuan!  If you need a special receipt other than the one from transferring funds from your account, you should talk to jaromil at freedom at devuan dot org to see if that's possible.

#3159 Re: Installation » [solved] How to update to ascii? » 2017-06-18 01:20:36

@keos . . . yes, that should do it.  Note that the instructions from the website point to:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list

Which is an alternate location to:

/etc/apt/sources.list

You could possibly have the sources in two locations!

#3160 Re: Off-topic » Antix and Debian base » 2017-06-17 15:07:10

Well, MXLinux handles it this way.   So I assume that Antix might be based on that method.  IOW they only install sysvinit according to Debian's method leaving all systemd entanglements present.

You might also find this discussion instructive.

#3161 Re: Installation » [solved] How to update to ascii? » 2017-06-16 21:48:18

From the website at https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list :

Move to ascii (testing)

    cat > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list <<EOD
    # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list

    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main
    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
    EOD

IOW, just change your sources list to point to ASCII.

#3162 Re: Other Issues » Rough edges to polish? » 2017-06-16 16:49:30

Jessie, ASCII, Ceres???  And please use BBCode to enclose the messages.

#3163 Re: News & Announcements » What to do if my question is not answered? » 2017-06-15 01:39:25

garyz.dev1 wrote:

Which forums (plural) are you referring to?  the dev1galaxy and possibly the discourse.devuan.org??  I was under the impression hellekin(sic) was dropping the
maintenance of it.-- so it would be a historical record from now on.

Nice to see that you made it to the forum garyz.dev1.  Yes, that is a bit confusing. talk.devuan.org is now read-only but wasn't when this thread was started.  Hopefully it can remain as an historical archive in some format.

I am new at IRC, but is someone monitoring the d-dev channel ? 24 hours - or is it logged so I can drop a line and check back later or leave my email?

Someone is always logged into the #devuan- channels.  I am on maybe 18 hours a day. but not always in front of the computer. You can leave a question on #devuan and then check the botbot logs later to see if it's been answered.

I ask because I went to the #d1g-users several times and found no one (I assume)[could have been my drum-roll entrance!]
TIA for any light you may shed --(OR others)

#d1g-users has hardly had any traffic since we got it going.  You'll have a better chance of catching our attention if you call us by name like you did on #devuan yesterday.

#3164 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-14 16:32:15

mckaygerhard wrote:

. . .i can see that the task in installer of Devuan are related to the installer sources itsef right? how its the process for and where i must change the desktop choice?

I did not make those changes myself but watched the process from the sidelines.   I don't know that there is a howto for that anywhere.   It's a complicated process that I understand starts with rootskel and rootskel-gtk.  They are in the project list on this forum or search for them directly on git . . .

#3165 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-06-14 16:19:31

mckaygerhard wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

I think package versions will remain constant between stretch and ascii. To do what you suggest would require a lot more people to do the work. Here's an explanation of amprolla that might answer some of your question.

Amprolla is an APT repository realtime merging....

why this important tecnicall information are not easy available for users?

Amprolla has been discussed for YEARS on the DNG mail list and irc.  We are in the process of moving to Amprolla2 .

This very forum has lists of git.d.o projects where amprolla is listed as: amprolla (devuan-infrastructure) - amprolla is an apt repository on the fly merger with proxy and....  Do take a look at those lists that are linked back to their respective git projects.

that's explain many of things! so then in any case if this its the behaviour, i think Devuan developers now will have more work if continue mirroring the Debian repository, due the two main changes: debugger package repository and xorg new behaviour

so i see the future too complicated

Why so negative about the future?  Accept the challenge or lose your freedom.  For me that choice is obvious . . .

#3166 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-14 15:14:16

mckaygerhard wrote:

that's its a really very powerfully hardware here! very expensive here! i my job i have very very resources.. but my house machine its 512MB ram, Celeron uniprocesor, but with right system i see good movies... and have runnig video editors

Ouch!  I actually have a machine like that in the back room that I retired years ago . . .

#3167 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-14 14:34:48

mckaygerhard wrote:

nowi golinux , the question its that i want to change the default XFce4 desktop in original disc set for LXDE due Devuan does not offers LXDE only disc, only derivates do.. but i not have the guidelines for.. only Debian references..
i want to do something on Devuan but as today i not have the docs.. and the current documentation are very confused, many changes...

Debian Jessie references that are not systemd related should be valid for Devuan.  Sometimes Wheezy references might be helpful too.

the project cannot assumed all the people have a powered hardware and lof of resources.. not all the contributors have pleny of resources.. in this case we are discriminating ...

Well, I work on a 32 bit machine with 4 gb of ram and a 15" monitor.  That's hardly powerful hardware but I'm not complaining.  People deal with ISP throttling, unstable connections and socio-economic discrimination even in US.  That's hardly Devuan's fault.

#3168 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-14 03:10:11

@mckaygerhard . . . If you want to continue to post here, please be more respectful of those who are trying to help you.  Insulting Devuan or Devuan developers is not going to go well for you.  An attitude adjustment is in order . . .

#3169 Re: Installation » how to install ffmpeg » 2017-06-14 00:50:54

Hi keb,

You will need to get ffmpeg from http://www.deb-multimedia.org/

You'll need to install the deb-multimedia-keyring and add this to your sources.list

deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main

#3170 Re: Intergalactic Communities » SPANISH devuan install guide, instalacion en español » 2017-06-12 20:09:37

I should be able to make those corrections when I have the time.

#3171 Re: News & Announcements » Reporting bugs in devuan » 2017-06-11 15:25:30

mckaygerhard wrote:

of couorse nobody has tested devuan far away from only install on destop... and "arm toys"

I'm not quite understanding what you're trying to say.  But Devuan is running much more than desktops and "arm toys".  All of Dyne's infrastructure is on Devuan and this board is also.  If you'd read the reviews on Distrowatch or comments on irc, you'd know that many servers have been upgraded to Devuan. And I guess you missed this . . .

#3172 Re: Other Issues » newbie question, as I am » 2017-06-10 17:19:11

I'd stick with the Wheezy handbook and read/compare selectively in the Jessie Handbook.  There are things that are specific to Devuan of course.

#3173 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2017-06-09 19:48:03

greenjeans wrote:

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

Users have the option to take control.  Between adblock plus and stylish, I never see any of those offensive things.  At least not more than once.  Even at that FF is a resource hog . . .

#3174 Re: Installation » No Internet (wlan0) after boot of PC » 2017-06-08 16:38:43

"Instead is conf must reliable to be used."  What?  Not getting it . . .

#3175 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2017-06-08 15:48:41

Oldmoss wrote:

Just updated Tor Browser [7.0 (based on Mozilla Firefox 52.1.2)].
Which has now gone totally silent and is telling me to install pulseaudio,
Any way around this?

Search here, on dng and on FDN for 'apulse'.

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