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#2776 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Upgrade warning for Miyo-XTRA Ascii (?) 2018/02/10 » 2018-02-11 02:11:07

Did you install the new Devuan key before trying to upgrade?

#2777 Re: Other Issues » Unable to format sdcard » 2018-02-05 21:05:14

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question but I can welcome you to the forum as our 500th member!!

#2778 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-05 17:08:49

fungus wrote:
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii main contrib non-free
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii-updates  main contrib non-free
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii-security main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main contrib non-free

That helped to clarify the issue.  This is the tor address on devuan.org.  Please notice the deb tor+http://

deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie          main
deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie-updates  main
deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie-security main

If you just replace jessie with ascii without altering it in any other way, I was advised that tor will work perfectly.

Also please  remove tor:// when using pkgmaster and use http in that case.

HND

#2779 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-05 02:45:34

fungus wrote:

Is devuanfwojg73k6r.onion = pkgmaster.devuan.org ?

<golinux>  Is and has the onion address of the repository been forwarded to pkgmaster
<KatolaZ> yes

KatolaZ requested that you post your sources.list.  Have any other repositories EVER been used on the ascii installations tested? 

Don't shoot the messenger.  I have never expressed a technical assessment on your issue because I have never used tor in conjunction with a repository.  Heck, I've barely used tor at all!  Without that experience I am unqualified to have an opinion or comprehend because I have no point of reference.  Instead, I have attempted to point you in the direction of those who could better help you sort things out.

#2780 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-04 18:59:08

Please post your sources.list . . . all of it.

#2781 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-02-04 18:11:20

These last three posts should be in the "pkgmaster is repository hell" thread.  I am unable to rejoin them to that existing thread so they have been split off to "pkgmaster is repository hell (continued)"

#2782 Re: Other Issues » updating with SPM-Synaptic » 2018-02-04 17:08:31

Comment out the cdrom media in your sources.list and then synaptic should go to the live repositories.

#2783 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-04 16:11:58

2018-01-30 00:04:43 fsmithred: KatolaZ, I think I said pretty much the same thing on that thread.
2018-01-30 00:05:19 fsmithred: Only advantage I can see for https is if you don't want ISP or government to know what you're installing.
2018-01-30 00:06:06 fsmithred: which might be a legitimate concern for a few people
2018-01-30 00:13:40 FoxMuldV6: also think public wifi at starbucks or in a hotel.
2018-01-30 00:30:54 KatolaZ: fsmithred: didn't have much time to go through the whole thread tbh
2018-01-30 00:30:58 KatolaZ: got tired pretty early
2018-01-30 00:31:07 KatolaZ: read it diagonally
2018-01-30 00:31:24 KatolaZ: and spotted those inaccuracies in the reasoning . . .
2018-01-30 00:33:55 KatolaZ: FoxMuldV6: so what? your fello coffee-addicts can get to know that you installed nano?
2018-01-30 00:33:58 KatolaZ: o_O
2018-01-30 00:35:22 FoxMuldV6: I'm sure with the right distro there is bound to be a package 'pornhub-collection', and it's really noone's business when I install that! :-p
2018-01-30 00:35:45 KatolaZ: FoxMuldV6: big_smile
2018-01-30 00:36:07 KatolaZ: they should first break wifi auth
2018-01-30 00:36:40 KatolaZ: then manage to do an arp-spoofing with the gateway....
2018-01-30 00:37:00 KatolaZ: and/or
2018-01-30 00:37:04 KatolaZ: depending on the ap config
2018-01-30 00:37:21 KatolaZ: (normally LAN communication is not enabled by default)
2018-01-30 00:42:02 fsmithred: my main concern is that he said the onion address only works intermittently. So I'm testing it.
2018-01-30 00:42:47 fsmithred: oh, and that he gets different results whether he uses tor or not
2018-01-30 00:43:28 KatolaZ: fsmithred: that's quite unlikely
2018-01-30 00:43:36 KatolaZ: I have tested both http and https
2018-01-30 00:43:39 KatolaZ: and they are the same
2018-01-30 00:43:44 fsmithred: same here
2018-01-30 00:43:50 KatolaZ: just asked parazyd who has confirmed that http, https, and onion are the same
2018-01-30 00:43:53 KatolaZ: SO
2018-01-30 00:44:27 KatolaZ: the problem is probably elsewhere
2018-01-30 00:44:50 fsmithred: I was taught to check whether anyone else has the problem or if someone knows what I did wrong before I file a bug report
2018-01-30 00:46:35 KatolaZ: I would rather invest the time to fix anna/net-retriever for d-i smile
2018-01-30 00:46:51 KatolaZ: it's more useful to a much larger number of devuan users wink
2018-01-30 00:50:44 parazyd: it's literally impossible to get different results with https/http/tor if you're using pkgmaster in all 3
2018-01-30 00:52:42 KatolaZ: well, the only possibility is that there is a glitch on the debian side
2018-01-30 00:52:45 KatolaZ: with tor
2018-01-30 00:52:55 KatolaZ: which happened a couple of times, months ago
2018-01-30 00:57:18 parazyd: still no reason to get updates with tor and no updates through http(s)

#2784 Re: Other Issues » Becoming a Devuan Maintainer (cut) » 2018-02-04 02:31:05

stanz wrote:

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  * Log me in automatically each time I visit.

Thats what I get. Is that not just a 'lifetime cookie' thing?

Yes, it is a cookie.  If you come regularly, I think it keeps renewing because I never get logged out of any of the forums I frequent daily.

Never thought of it as keeping one logged in... ? smile
Will try it ~ Thx

I hope that it works for you.  Please let us know.

#2785 Re: Other Issues » Becoming a Devuan Maintainer (cut) » 2018-02-04 01:53:59

stanz wrote:
golinux wrote:

I had a better Subject, but taking to long lost it.

If you click the option to stay logged in, you won't get bit by the timeout issue.

Pray`Tell...where is that option to click?  smile

On the login screen just under where you enter your password.  It says:

Log me in automatically each time I visit.

That keeps you logged in if you visit here regularly.   I suppose there would eventually be a timeout but certainly not during a session.

#2786 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-02-03 22:31:16

Am I supposed to know who that is?

#2787 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-02-03 21:57:53

@Miyo . . . Lazy Saturday?

#2788 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » On acsii, plasma and the power button. » 2018-02-02 23:34:39

@Miyo . . . steve_v has long since left the building.  But he did test after I asked him to see if elogind fixed things and he said:

Yes, power management in KDE now works, if eudev & elogind are installed.

#2789 Re: Off-topic » Devuan Socks » 2018-02-02 17:31:05

An upside-down swoosh.  Looks weird . . .

#2790 Re: Off-topic » Why This Website Have A Copy Of devuan.org? » 2018-02-02 16:54:53

Thanks.  If you upgrade to ascii you can see the darkpurpy Xfce desktop!

#2791 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 23:11:26

sgage wrote:
golinux wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their meltdowns and confusion as long as they take responsibility instead of imagining that it's someone else's fault.

γραφω λογον said "I also like the social contract which states, quite simply and objectively, why the goals of this project do not fit my personal needs." That seems to be a bit self-contradictory, but anyway I'd like to know where I can find the social contract. I poked around a bit, and can't seem to find it...

I was also confused by that.   Debian has a social contract.   Devuan has the (almost) no Code of Conduct.  Is the poster referring to the Debian or the Devuan document.  And what in whichever document does not fit their "personal needs"?

#2792 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 16:23:45

Everyone is entitled to their meltdowns and confusion as long as they take responsibility instead of imagining that it's someone else's fault.

#2793 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 02:37:22

γραφω λογον wrote:

golinux, you can just go ahead and "ban" me if you want and it's no big deal at all.

Why on earth would I do that?  I hope that your continuing Linux adventures are more successful than it seems your encounter with Devuan was.  I guess we'll never know what your issues/problems were that might make you decide to remove it and reclaim your HDD . . .

#2794 Re: Off-topic » Why This Website Have A Copy Of devuan.org? » 2018-01-30 17:36:01

xD wrote:

Basically what the title says. Why is there a website that appears to have an entire copy of the Devuan website. Like, the website is about GMOs or something. It's unrelated to Linux... I think?

http://www.saynotogmos.org/devuan-final/index.html

Am I missing something?

Yes.  I am part of the team that designs/maintains the Devuan website.  The backend is a bit of a hairball so last year I converted it to plain html as an experiment and option to simplify things.  I posted it on that old website of mine.  In the end, we stayed with the hairball.  Just last night I posted a proposal for some subtle color changes for the official ascii release.  Note that only that page has the changes.  Structural changes are coming soon too.

#2795 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-01-29 22:22:53

cynwulf wrote:
golinux wrote:

Good to hear.  Holding on to resentment and anger is so not a good thing.  smile

Hehe... you're right, but there was never any resentment and anger in the first place (as you well know).

Indeed.  Maybe not about the banning but nomko or the admins? Not at all?   (rehtorical questions)  In any case, it was an opportunity to share a life lesson with anyone who ventures into this thread.

#2796 Re: Devuan » Discussion About - Software should be came by Default » 2018-01-29 21:33:12

inukaze wrote:

GoLinux suggest i do this post.

Indeed I did.  This discussion topic is better separated from the other issues in that thread. inukaze . . . in the future please keep to only one topic per thread.

#2797 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-01-29 15:39:53

cynwulf wrote:

I'm just pointing out that if transparency and accountability is desired, then it's best not to cloud things.  Otherwise you may as well hit the ban button and not bother yourself with explaining why or keeping an "evidence bag".

Keeping "evidence" is the only way to defend a position.  It was just a PITA to have to take 2 screenies, rejoin them yada, yada.  I am guilty of being lazy.

cynwulf wrote:
golinux wrote:

You should see what went on over at DUF in its early days.  Complete anarchy.  DUF rose from the exodus of many veteran Debian users years ago after cynwulf himself was banned/suspended.  Still a bit of a sore spot, I think.

As number 9 of the top 10 posters, you should know.

Indeed.  What great fun we had.  But that too passed (as all things do).  Now DUF is on life support.

That last statement of yours is untrue.

Good to hear.  Holding on to resentment and anger is so not a good thing.  smile

I've made my views on this clear by now, so at this stage I'll call it a day.

OK.  I do hope that you'll stick around the forum though . . .

#2798 Re: Devuan » Discussion About - Software should be came by Default » 2018-01-29 15:26:33

I am responsible for suggesting that software selection discussion be continued elsewhere.  The original thread is here.

#2799 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-01-29 01:39:10

sgage wrote:

I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think he might have been suspended once in the past.

He was moderated on the DNG list last year but not the forum.

You should see what went on over at DUF in its early days.  Complete anarchy.  DUF rose from the exodus of many veteran Debian users years ago after cynwulf himself was banned/suspended.  Still a bit of a sore spot, I think.

#2800 Re: Installation » Devuan minimal install with Trinity (TDE). Login goes black & returns » 2018-01-29 01:08:21

sgfxi used to work wonders to install invidia drivers directly from the official site.  But I haven't used it in years so ymmv.

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