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#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan more JWM » 2026-03-25 08:39:02

Doesn't the base system include both by default?

#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan more JWM » 2026-03-24 00:15:11

@brday I install from the base system and can't get anywhere near 160 MiB. Must be all the bloat I added.

Screenshot test

#4 Re: Off-topic » systemd starting to store birthDate » 2026-03-20 00:57:28

You will own nothing and be depressed.

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre! » 2026-03-20 00:35:32

Bummer. I haven't got any amd stuff on old or new hardware.

I install devuan with no desktop environment so there's no xorg. Then I install ntpsec, curl and gnupg. After that I install xlibre. This way you could try apt-mark hold xorg then install mate-desktop or mate-desktop-environment.

As for mesa-libgallium maybe you could try installing that before mate or apt mark-hold mate-desktop-environment if mates already installed then install mesa-libgallium.

I only ended up with no amd hardware by chance not choice and have had only good results using xlibre.

#6 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre! » 2026-03-18 23:53:52

Great job. I noticed on the github page, now it says for excalibur you have to enable backports. Do you know why? I have installed it with and without backports and works great. Just wondering why backports is needed?

Also I tested xlibre on old and new hardware with mate, xfce, openbox and jwm and they all work well. On new hardware with nvidia, the improvements are that good my young bloke stopped asking me to upgrade the graphics card.

Is there an excalibur, xlibre, vuudo version planned?

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-10 23:36:26

For wpa_gui I had to do this in /etc/network/interfaces

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
             wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

then sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
update_config=1
p2p_disabled=1

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Hardware Config advice for 4K screen laptop with NVIDIA » 2026-03-10 11:59:49

I've got a gtx 4060 8gb in my desktop and this always has worked for me with xfce. Not sure if it'll work on a laptop. Just make sure you add contirb and non-free in the sources list.

sudo apt install linux-headers-amd64

wget https://developer.download.nvidia.com/c … -1_all.deb

sudo dpkg -i cuda-keyring_1.1-1_all.deb

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install cuda-drivers

sudo reboot

Also I haven't got 4K only 1080p

#9 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-19 15:31:24

@fsmithred  If you ran the install-packages.sh it has grub-pc included in it, if you didn't I'm not sure. I've finished with this now. It was good fun. I've added the updated tar file on sourceforge and there's a build-readme as well. https://sourceforge.net/projects/unoffi … box/files/

I set it up to use the username and password of the machine taking the snapshot. So for example I can setup a system the way I want with a username live password live (it uses place_holder for whatever anyone wants to use), install the required packages for refracta and calamares, then from refracta-calamares-setup run scripts/install-config.sh, then run scripts/build-iso.sh and it's all done.

Calamares removes itself once it's finished the installation from the live usb. I also configured calamares to keep home/$USER/.config and home/$USER/.local, this can be added to or removed.

Anyone can change the logo, images for slideshow, number of images used, name of the installer or iso etc. And again CHAT BOTS have been used to write the scripts.

Refracta snapshot made this really easy so thanks again.

#10 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-18 16:15:22

@fsmithred chat bots added removeuser.conf this removed the live user on the installed system and left only the user created using the installer. Chat bots also added a shell process to remove everything Calamares and refracta snap shot installed.

#11 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-17 01:30:10

@greenjeans Possibly, they tried installing on a new desktop and an old laptop. I did tell them this and to look in the bios for options to disable anything UEFI boot, secure boot. If you used something simple like calamares, with a good cleanup script all the crap it installs could be removed leaving vuudo just the way you intended it to be.

@fsmithred When I used refractasnapshot I had the user set to human and EFI enabled. When I used the live usb the user name and password were the same as the user name and password from the machine that took the snapshot. Starting calamares it always asked for user name and password and that was the one from the machine that took the snapshot. I tried getting the chat bots to make calamares start with out putting in a user name and password but it didn't work so I just moved on using the one from the machine that took the snapshot.

During the install process with the calamares gui I put in user name test and password 1234 and when booting into the installed system it logged in with test and 1234. I did not install any of these  cracklib_runtime and reinstall libcrack2. I am not a dev but I'm sure you don't have to do this "I would need to rearrange the build process of the iso to do it the debian-live way". All i know is it works with what you already have.

Grub was the final hurdle I had before the installer finished with out error. If you look at the bootloader.conf I used it's in the tar file on sourceforge I will not post it here given the love for ai slop. But this worked. I would suggest looking at all the module files in refracta-calamares-setup/config/etc/calamares they follow what the calamares source code says. When I boot the installed system I get a blue screen with the Devuan logo Devuan GNU/Linux, Advanced options for Devuan GNU/Linux and booting in countdown.
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You guys make great stuff and with windows 11 people are trying out your work and want to use it. If you want people to use your work try and think like them and not a dev

.Edit. I only checked the user name and password I used in the Calamares installer and the installed system logs in with both that and the user name and password from the machine that created the snapshot

#12 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-16 04:26:10

@fsmithred I got this working thanks to your refractasnapshot and chatbots. I've read a lot of comments on here thanking you for refracta and I'll add my thanks to. It's great. So far on real hardware I've tried erase disk and replace a partition and they both worked. I haven't tried encrypted or manual partion.

Partitioning was a problem but the chat bots recommended the package partitionmanager and adding the user to disk. This worked. Calamares pulls in every package under the sun but not partitionmanager. Then unpackfs problems, had to point calamares to the correct location. Then more problems with bootloader, machine-id and some arch stuff that shouldn't be there. I used the latest calamares release for reference which shows you how to setup all the modules. I installed the release in the repo and it worked fine.

After installing your refractasnapshot-base, refractasnapshot-gui, calamares, partitionmanager, pkexec the chat bots scripts, install-config.sh, links all the stuff required, theming, polkit rules, exclude list etc and then build-iso.sh starts refractasnapshot. I have made a tar file here https://sourceforge.net/projects/unoffi … box/files/ so you can see. If you try it, from the directory execute the scripts and run them with sudo. I have just focused on getting calamares working so i would replace the exclude list and snapshot.conf with what you know, I am still learning this part.

@greenjeans I've used jamulus for a long time the other caveman use windows. They are really clever caveman, great musicians and can use software, like a daw really good. Using jamulus over 1800kms apart and bad internet every little bit of the setup counts. I kept telling them i tired vuudo and they should install it. As I said before never have I used a setup that worked as good for this purpose. Alsatune finds interface no problem and qjackctl for routing real time audio.

They tried it. After countless messages on how to just boot the live usb they were in, they liked it, wanted to install it, tired to install it multiple times and couldn't. Countless more messages trying to help them and no luck. It's like the blind leading the blind.

In my perfect cave we would all just use debian and the debian installer, and at the end just choose which init system to use.

#13 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-11 14:44:53

There's a readme here on what I'm doing https://sourceforge.net/projects/unoffi … box/files/ I just made it to show you and It does not work yet, but i'll get there. Also like fsmithred said it's bloated but I think it would be good for vuudo

Tux beach

Devuan splash

#14 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-11 14:35:16

Hi greenjeans, I've been working on calamares as I have friends that live a long way away who I told to install vuudo and they couldn't plus I had trouble installing vuudo as well. It might seem easy to all you clever folks who live and breath this stuff but not for people like me who don't know and don't want to know because it's just a computer. And reading the documentation is totally a no go area. If any of this helps go for it. I'm putting this together as more of a linux for dummies. Don't use the debian settings version just get the plain old calamares package. And yes as always I use chat bots to guide me. Like I've said before they aren't going away, learn how to use them to your advantage.

edit updated code is here https://sourceforge.net/projects/unoffi … box/files/ this is just theme stuff.

#15 Re: DIY » Thumbnail caching script for PcmanFM » 2026-02-04 14:07:06

Yeah, I will test that. I'll also test an excalibur version of your video player if you make one. I'm using vlc and it's huge compared to the size of your video player. vlc is great but I don't need all its features.

I don't use the one click open a folder or file, I did like it in vuudo I had never tired it before, but I would click things I did not mean to. In the default double click to open, the first click does display the size of a file down the bottom of the window but only the name for folders. Maybe, if you could try add the size next to the name in the bottom of the window for the default double click they might be more open to your icon suggestion.

Different topic, In gtk-greeter I could set my own wallpaper and icon in the login dialog box thingy. Do you know how to make the white background of the dialog box transparent? Is it possible? I'm using the default setup not your vuudo one. Everything I've tried has failed.

#16 Re: DIY » Thumbnail caching script for PcmanFM » 2026-02-03 02:08:15

I'm using pcmanfm now since trying it in vuudo, it's great. I'm actually now using a lot of the stuff you use in vuudo that I had never tried before and it works a lot better then my old setup. I combined two "hobby" projects devuan and vuudo.

It's all flying along on my main box running 16gb ram, intel i7-12400F and nvidia rtx 4060

Installed excalibur sysvinit with no desktop environment, xlibre, openbox, pcmanfm, lxpolkit, lxterminal, lightdm, tint2, obmenu-generator, obsession, nitrogen, nvidia cuda driver, brave, pluma and my chat bot program jack-bridge.

I've got the best working setup I've ever had thanks to the info in this forum

#17 Re: Documentation » HOW TO: Install XLibre on Devuan » 2026-01-29 15:58:05

I couldn't get this working on daedalus so I installed excalibur with openbox and haven't had any issues.

#18 Re: Installation » does the Brave browser work here? » 2026-01-27 14:12:45

Intresting. How many websites use javascript? I hope he doesn't use any of them

#19 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2026-01-26 03:09:57

Update from the chat bots.

Latest release has come a long way from when I started this. It is at a point that I'm happy with and it seems to be working good. Now I've got the features I wanted on top of jack (bluetooth and connecting apps that don't support jack, except steam it doesn't work with steam). And all without having to use a terminal. Thanks again greenjeans for sharing your code.

All the chat bot code is there for all to see, use and improve if anyone is interested. You can download the code or latest release here https://sourceforge.net/projects/jack-bridge/ or here https://github.com/rations/jack-bridge/releases

There are some UNTESTED versions for openrc on Arch and Debian and also runit for Void in the github branches. They are a few commits behind the master branch. I'll get the chat bots to update them to the latest release soon.

#20 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Using wine on devuan » 2026-01-24 17:00:48

Yeah I tried MT, that's great that they have released a native linux version as before the linux package installed wine. I would recommend MT powerdrums for anyone needing a virtual kit. I also tried hydrogen and others that are only on windows and mac.

I bought superior drummer years ago and it's just a personal preference for me. My version is outdated these days but I have no need to upgrade.

That's great they made a native version it is a lot more user friendly then hydogen if you are just using an electric drum kit to play.

#21 Re: DIY » New Project, a simple music player. And now a video player!! » 2026-01-22 04:04:30

I'm not talking jack-bridge, on my vuudo setup I use AlsaTune and just installed qjackctl. The reason I suggest combining AlsaTune with vuudo media and video is I like adding the launcher to the panel and having them all combined into one app (only one icon in the panel) would be great.

#22 Re: DIY » New Project, a simple music player. And now a video player!! » 2026-01-22 00:24:13

Have you considered combining AslaTune, Vuudo media and video player into one app?

#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2026-01-21 16:09:51

Don't want to spam pictures, just one more update from the chat bots today.

Added an expander to the mixer controls so now you can can collapse or expand everything in the gui.

This is on mate.
Collapsed on MATE desktop

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2026-01-20 13:30:50

Also I have tested this on a good amount of programs and sound seems to work well. Browsers, DAWs, media players, wine for games and vsts, native linux games, except steam. Steams proton version or runtime just gives nothing, not a sound. I've tried multiple solutions and can't get any to work.

I'm not a fan of steam as you don't own anything you buy but it has been a great challenge trying to get alsa or jack to work with it and apart from rebuilding steams runtime to support it there must be a way. If any of the alsa only guys out there play games on steam it would great if you could share how you do it?

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2026-01-20 13:09:31

Update from the chat bots. Fixed some more bugs and updated uninstall.sh script to make sure it removes the disable pulseaudio auto spawn that is installed by the install.sh script. You do not have to remove pulseaudio for jack-bridge to work if anybody is intrested in trying it and you can start and stop pulseaudio with pulseaudio --start and pulseaudio --kill

Also created a tar.gz file so you don't have to clone the repo. It's on sourceforge here  https://sourceforge.net/projects/jack-bridge/  or on github here https://github.com/rations/jack-bridge/releases

Expanded MATE desktop interface
Collapsed MATE desktop USB audio interface controls
Expanded XFCE desktop interface
Qjackctl graph connections

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