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#2226 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2019-02-19 15:55:02
You should get some more sleep and spend less time on forums like this one.
If you actually used Devuan or contributed anything substantial my ears might perk up because then you'd have a point of reference from which to critique. I think you just come here when you're bored or having a bad day .
Footnote: cynwulf and I have a long and mostly amicable history so I know who I am chiding. 
#2227 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2019-02-18 17:21:32
(golinux yawns)
#2228 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-18 02:25:20
The bad news: still no Consolekit.
These packages may or may not be relevant but . . . I leave it to you to sort . . .
#2229 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2019-02-17 18:09:16
Have you tried adjusting the acceleration/sensitivity of your mouse in Mouse and Touchpad from the main Applications menu?
#2230 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Raspberry Pi 3B+ network not working at boot with Ascii » 2019-02-16 22:24:29
Have you seen this thread? There is a solution. Can't remember whether it's in that thread or elsewhere on this forum. Sorry . . . not willing to go treasure hunting atm.
#2231 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-16 21:01:49
No...it's simply a basic YAD script...that I'm going to have to change since consolekit apparently will no longer be available beginning in beowulf.
Isn't there consolekit2. There has been recent discussion. and also there are consolekit related packages in beowulf:
libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit
libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit
etc.
You should probably be on the ML.
#2232 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:45:00
@Miyo . . . maybe you can put together a gimp team to keep the older version compatible with newer Devuan releases. I do not use gimp often - still do a lot of work on PS7 LOLOL!!!! But I do use it for specific tasks on occasion - like converting png to xpm - and would not be happy to see those functions disappear.
#2233 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:32:55
This is not good news. It might be easy enough to just keep an older version in the repos if the dependencies are compatible. If not, the task of sorting things out would fall to impacted users because the Devuan devs have their hands full and just don't have time to fix applications in user-space that take a wrong turn. Would you be willing to maintain and package Gimp 2.8.x for beowulf and future Devuan releases?
#2234 Re: News & Announcements » Reporting bugs in devuan » 2019-02-13 23:04:01
Did you not see this in KatolaZ post above yours?
Also, the only way to submit bug reports to bugs.devuan.org is via email, so you need a working email account.
Try this method.
#2235 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 18:00:20
Maybe the last unavoidable systemd packages can be renamed to fake-$originalname_*.deb to make clear that they are harmless? Via provides $originalname dependices could be satisfied.
Would that possibly reduce the iterating questions about systemd pieces still present in Devuan?
Sadly, there are just not enough hands on deck to do the repackaging and long term maintainence. Any volunteers out there?
(golinux hears the sound of silence)
#2236 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 05:24:25
Yes, I did first thing. That is why I deleted the (other) systemd folders and files; they should not have mattered to the os. However when the systemd folder in /run got recreated on reboot, I got kind of concerned. Moreso, when I could not chattr +i that empty folder to immutable. I know I can just reinstall and pay more attention, but there is little learning in that.
I wish we had a workshop of magic elves to remove those unnecessary systemd files but alas . . .
Thanks for all your trouble for me.
Best regards,
Bob
No problem. No trouble. 
Really nice to see you back!
#2238 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 22:12:17
There are a lot of LOLOLs going on here. We're a happy bunch . . . 
#2239 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 19:40:08
Here's an update . . . I FINALLY found a darker color that worked to hilight selected items. It's only taken about 4 months. LOLOL! I revisited that option after the lighter version morphed a bit and I was unable to find an icon color that worked in the file manager as well as the desktop. That's because color is fickle and can be perceived quite differently depending what is nearby. It can drive one to madness . . . no kidding.
#2240 Re: News & Announcements » Jaromil presentation FOSDEM 2019 » 2019-02-12 19:24:22
jaromil is one of the VUA who decided to fork Devuan in 2014 and CEO of dyne.org the non-profit that sponsors Devuan. He is a well-known public figure in the EU in many capacities.
This fairly recent video summarizes a few of the projects that dyne is working on.
#2241 Re: Other Issues » Wireguard (VPN) Kernel Modul » 2019-02-11 15:41:18
The best place for this question would be #devuan-arm on freenode. parazyd doesn't read this forum.
#2242 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-02-09 22:34:30
Wonderful! You always make me smile.
#2243 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED]Package updates in ascii? » 2019-02-09 22:25:18
IIUC, stable releases get bug fixes and security updates but not newer software. Have you checked the backports repos? That's where you'll find newer software built against stable.
#2244 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2019-02-09 22:20:58
We have missed you too greenjeans! Soooo nice to see you dropped by. Please do so more often!
#2245 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » root-Terminal on Beowulf » 2019-02-09 18:53:54
I don't know the reason they changed it, but it certainly got in the way of my workflow.
Wasn't that due to the merged /usr in stretch/beowulf?
#2246 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED]I had upgrade Jessie to Ascii and i need some fixes.[SOLVED] » 2019-02-08 22:25:05
Have you read the ASCII release notes?
#2247 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » root-Terminal on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 22:05:03
gksu has been deprecated as you noted. Use pkexec. Discussion here. I can now launch from panel and to custom actions. Bit of a pain though . . .
Also a recent update overwrote my working policykit backend. Make sure the debian one hasn't slipped in.
#2248 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Mate and lightdm on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 17:12:51
Just wondering what you have in your sources.list. This is what I have:
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf-security main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres main Obviously take care with what ceres installs. That bit me a week or so ago.
#2249 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Mate and lightdm on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 15:40:34
From the ASCII release notes:
### Session management and policykit backends
Devuan 2.0 ASCII provides a choice of 5 Desktop Environments at
install time (XFCE, Cinnamon, KDE, LXQT, MATE), while many other
window managers are available from the repositories.These days, Desktop Environments rely on a session management system
to allow the user to perform several typical tasks without requiring
administrator privileges, including suspending/rebooting/shutting down
the system, mounting external devices, configuring networking, and so
on.Two of such session management systems are available in Devuan 2.0
ASCII, namely:- consolekit
- elogindThese session managers are mutually exclusive, only one of them can be
installed and active at a time to avoid unwanted interference. In
order to grant processes in the unprivileged user session access to
select privileged operations, the installed session manager is
connected to the policykit-1 framework by a set of matching back-end
libraries.Each of the 5 DEs available in Devuan comes with a recommended default
combination of login manager (either slim or lightdm) and session
management system:- XFCE: slim + consolekit
- Cinnamon: lightdm + elogind
- KDE: lightdm + elogind
- LXQT: lightdm + elogind
- MATE: slim + consolekit
In order for session management to work correctly, the login manager
(aka display manager, DM) has to register the user session with the
installed session manager (i.e. either consolekit or elogind), which
in turn has to cooperate with the relevant components of the desktop
environment. The default pairings listed above are known to work well
and do not require user intervention, but other combinations are
possible.
#2250 Re: Installation » gdm3 requires libpam-systemd » 2019-02-07 23:01:05
When I try the dist-upgrade, gdm3 has an unmet dependency. So when I try to upgrade only gdm3, apt tells me:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: gdm3 : Depends: libpam-systemd but it is not installablelibpam-systemd does not exist in any of the Devuan repositories. What should I do to resolve this?
That's because libpam-systemd is a banned package. Choose another option as ChuangTzu suggested.
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