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#2076 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-18 02:25:20

MiyoLinux wrote:

The bad news: still no Consolekit.

These packages may or may not be relevant but . . .  I leave it to you to sort . . .

#2077 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2019-02-17 18:09:16

Have you tried adjusting the acceleration/sensitivity of your mouse in Mouse and Touchpad from the main Applications menu?

#2078 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Raspberry Pi 3B+ network not working at boot with Ascii » 2019-02-16 22:24:29

Have you seen this thread?  There is a solution. Can't remember whether it's in that thread or elsewhere on this forum.  Sorry . . . not willing to go treasure hunting atm.  wink

#2079 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-16 21:01:49

MiyoLinux wrote:

No...it's simply a basic YAD script...that I'm going to have to change since consolekit apparently will no longer be available beginning in beowulf. neutral  tongue

Isn't there consolekit2.  There has been recent discussion. and also there are consolekit related packages in beowulf:
libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit
libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit
etc.

You should probably be on the ML.

#2080 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:45:00

@Miyo . . . maybe you can put together a gimp team to keep the older version compatible with newer Devuan releases.  I do not use gimp often - still do a lot of work on PS7 LOLOL!!!!  But I do use it for specific tasks on occasion - like converting png to xpm - and would not be happy to see those functions disappear.

#2081 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:32:55

This is not good news.  It might be easy enough to just keep an older version in the repos if the dependencies are compatible.  If not, the task of  sorting things out would fall to impacted users because the Devuan devs have their hands full and just don't have time to fix applications in user-space that take a wrong turn.  Would you be willing to maintain and package Gimp 2.8.x for beowulf and future Devuan releases?

#2082 Re: News & Announcements » Reporting bugs in devuan » 2019-02-13 23:04:01

Did you not see this in KatolaZ post above yours?

Also, the only way to submit bug reports to bugs.devuan.org is via email, so you need a working email account.

Try this method.

#2083 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 18:00:20

yeti wrote:

Maybe the last unavoidable systemd packages can be renamed to fake-$originalname_*.deb to make clear that they are harmless? Via provides $originalname dependices could be satisfied.

Would that possibly reduce the iterating questions about systemd pieces still present in Devuan?

Sadly, there are just not enough hands on deck to do the repackaging and long term maintainence.  Any volunteers out there?

(golinux hears the sound of silence)

#2084 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 05:24:25

robert-e wrote:

Yes, I did first thing.  That is why I deleted the (other) systemd folders and files; they should not have mattered to the os.  However when the systemd folder in /run got recreated on reboot, I got kind of concerned.  Moreso, when I could not chattr +i that empty folder to immutable.  I know I can just reinstall and pay more attention, but there is little learning in that. wink

I wish we had a workshop of magic elves to remove those unnecessary systemd files but alas . . .

Thanks for all your trouble for me.

Best regards,
Bob

No problem.  No trouble.  smile  Really nice to see you back!

#2085 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 04:01:39

Happy to see you made it here!  You might want to take a look at this post.

#2086 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 22:12:17

There are a lot of LOLOLs going on here.  We're a happy bunch . . .  big_smile

#2087 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 19:40:08

Here's an update . . . I FINALLY found a darker color that worked to hilight selected items.  It's only taken about 4 months.  LOLOL!  I revisited that option after the lighter version morphed a bit and I was unable to find an icon color that worked in the file manager as well as the desktop.  That's because color is fickle and can be perceived quite differently depending what is nearby.   It can drive one to madness . . . no kidding.  big_smile

meet-cinnabar-dark-sm.png

#2088 Re: News & Announcements » Jaromil presentation FOSDEM 2019 » 2019-02-12 19:24:22

jaromil is one of the VUA who decided to fork Devuan in 2014 and CEO of dyne.org the non-profit that sponsors Devuan.  He is a well-known public figure in the EU in many capacities.

This fairly recent video summarizes a few of the projects that dyne is working on.

#2089 Re: Other Issues » Wireguard (VPN) Kernel Modul » 2019-02-11 15:41:18

The best place for this question would be #devuan-arm on freenode.  parazyd doesn't read this forum.

#2090 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-02-09 22:34:30

Wonderful!  You always make me smile.  big_smile

#2091 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED]Package updates in ascii? » 2019-02-09 22:25:18

IIUC, stable releases get bug fixes and security updates but not newer software.  Have you checked the backports repos?  That's where you'll find newer software built against stable.

#2092 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2019-02-09 22:20:58

We have missed you too greenjeans!  Soooo nice to see you dropped by.   Please do so more often!

#2093 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » root-Terminal on Beowulf » 2019-02-09 18:53:54

fsmithred wrote:

I don't know the reason they changed it, but it certainly got in the way of my workflow.

Wasn't that due to the merged /usr in stretch/beowulf?

#2095 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » root-Terminal on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 22:05:03

gksu has been deprecated as you noted.  Use pkexec.  Discussion here.  I can now launch from panel and to custom actions. Bit of a pain though . . .

Also a recent update overwrote my working policykit backend.  Make sure the debian one hasn't slipped in.

#2096 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Mate and lightdm on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 17:12:51

Just wondering what you have in your sources.list. This is what I have:

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main 
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf-security main 
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main 
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres main 

Obviously take care with what ceres installs.  That bit me a week or so ago.

#2097 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Mate and lightdm on Beowulf » 2019-02-08 15:40:34

From the ASCII release notes:

### Session management and policykit backends

Devuan 2.0 ASCII provides a choice of 5 Desktop Environments at
install time (XFCE, Cinnamon, KDE, LXQT, MATE), while many other
window managers are available from the repositories.

These days, Desktop Environments rely on a session management system
to allow the user to perform several typical tasks without requiring
administrator privileges, including suspending/rebooting/shutting down
the system, mounting external devices, configuring networking, and so
on.

Two of such session management systems are available in Devuan 2.0
ASCII, namely:

  - consolekit
  - elogind

These session managers are mutually exclusive, only one of them can be
installed and active at a time to avoid unwanted interference.  In
order to grant processes in the unprivileged user session access to
select privileged operations, the installed session manager is
connected to the policykit-1 framework by a set of matching back-end
libraries.

Each of the 5 DEs available in Devuan comes with a recommended default
combination of login manager (either slim or lightdm) and session
management system:

  - XFCE: slim + consolekit
  - Cinnamon: lightdm + elogind
  - KDE: lightdm + elogind
  - LXQT: lightdm + elogind
  - MATE: slim + consolekit
 
In order for session management to work correctly, the login manager
(aka display manager, DM) has to register the user session with the
installed session manager (i.e. either consolekit or elogind), which
in turn has to cooperate with the relevant components of the desktop
environment. The default pairings listed above are known to work well
and do not require user intervention, but other combinations are
possible.

#2098 Re: Installation » gdm3 requires libpam-systemd » 2019-02-07 23:01:05

iffy wrote:

When I try the dist-upgrade, gdm3 has an unmet dependency. So when I try to upgrade only gdm3, apt tells me:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gdm3 : Depends: libpam-systemd but it is not installable

libpam-systemd does not exist in any of the Devuan repositories. What should I do to resolve this?

That's because libpam-systemd is a banned package.  Choose another option as ChuangTzu suggested.

#2099 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-07 22:54:18

I will recolor all the icons once everything else is in place.  They will be a neutral color because of the way the color interacts differently with the intense BG colors and the theme.  And no . . . I am not going to do a dark theme.  wink

#2100 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2019-02-07 03:28:12

thecolorjay wrote:

I'm going to work on repackaging iceweasel-hardened and icedove-hardened for Devuan from Parabola since they are lightweight and hardened which is rather nice

Good that you are taking on that task.  smile  Thanks.

I am a huge fan of Parabola and they offer a OpenRC edition of the OS.

OpenRC is also available on Devuan with an expert install.

I don't think that's the objective, the objective is to be without systemd. If your objective is wholly free software, you should use Parabola.

Devuan derivatives heads and gnuinos are "libre".

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