zapper wrote:

If it can handle an emulator like desmume and palemoon or two emulators and palemoon, than it would probably be good enough for me till they get a better processor.

I wonder what the most recent, fastest processor type that you can get without having any remote backdoors/blobs is with 4gbs of ram or more obviously and if possible LPDDR4,

Anyways thanks for the thoughts.

You welcome,
Indeed maybe mnt reform is the most open of them all( the price seems to go up when you talk of openess.. )

balthazar.space
it seems they will attempt something with RISCV in mind, but they don't rule out a ARM cortex-a7x version.. 
The project seems ambitious indeed..

Other project, that is not ARM based, but Instead PowerPC based is the www.powerpc-notebook.org
They seem each time closer to get a pcb design, for the Slimbook Eclipse laptop chassis
But its a laptop around 1500€( also a bit expensive.. )

Its also a 4 core cpu( SMT 2 - 8 threads ) at 2Ghz, but with some serious amount of Ram, I believe it goes till 32 or 64 GB Ram..
The problem with PowerPC(  to a less extent than RISCV ofcourse,.. because support for RISCV right now almost doesn't exist.... ), is the environment around with supported applications..

At same time Debian has a port for PowerPC 64 bits, and its growing fast..
At the moment, this is my dream of a laptop, I confess!

A powerful AMD eGPU( Open Source Drivers ), mechanical keyboard with RGB, tons of memory Ram( even tough its LPDDR3 ) and its dual chanel, and a cpu with 8 threads at 2Ghz, with nvme disks, everything..
But it costs around some 1500€( its a estimated price range, they have done.. )

It could be that "I loose my head" and advance for this one

davidb wrote:

A very good comparison. How about SeaMonkey?  This is my browser of choice.

So I gave SeaMonkey a whirl, by downloading their binary package from their website, and it actually ran really well on this machine.  Youtube playback was smooth, but the audio didn't work. I imagine that it was compiled with the PA dependency, so can't fault it for that given that I don't have PA installed. Page loads were slower, but that's what ya get on today's Internet when you're not using Ad Block. It did seem to be more frugal with memory than Firefox, so it could be good for low end hardware.

Was neat how much SeaMonkey still looked like the Netscape Navigator I remember using in Windows 95.

Edit: Updated with archive.org suggestion

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Thanks. Yes. It looks like a code bug; that the edit code picks up the topic's timestamp rather than the post's timestamp.
This might have been fixed now by my spurios replacing of a 't' with a 'p'; otherwise it'll require thought.

Thanks. I have now been able to edit my post.

Reasons to allow unlimited time for editing.

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Hi,

I'm uploading new images of gnuinos:

https://www.gnuinos.org/Beowulf/

Here you are a screenshot:

https://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/202 … _scrot.png

Gnuinos is using runit as init system.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

PowerPC (PPC64?) is old and slow and doesn't really compare with the current 7nm x86_64 AMD processors.

Well, actually PowerPC is one of the newest arch's around, created initially in the 90's, and its a open arch, even NXP gave permission to fully open documentation to the project www.powerpc-notebook.org.
It is part of the Open Power Community..

Yes, this processor in cause, is not as powerful as 7nm x86_64 launched recently, but it is the best performance/Open/Cost option available at the moment by far..
It has all the connectivity modern hardware has, and its a lot more performant than a ARM cortex a53, by far..

zapper...
Does your laptop function without nvidia, if so, I recommend it. proprietary blobs have unknown consequences. Security/privacy and who knows what else.

This post is about my desktop system, I play OTTD and CounterStrike Source. The Graphics driver helps with CS:S, but it's so old the other drivers work fine, I find it easier to manage kernel and nVidia updates manually.

The desktop system is my entertainment system, constant music (streaming 4zzz radio, and my enormous cd collection), videos, games and web-browsing.

My laptop runs the same OS, but I don't bother with the graphics modules as I only use it in emergencies and occasional couch surfing.
It has an intel onboard and a nVidia card, I think it's able to switch on loading... but that maybe a m$Win thing, it had win7 and 10 on it at first.

Wireless was the main reason I went to backports, to tether off my iPhone :-) (Thanks to this site I got a "reliable" connection happening)

Anyhow, I haven't seen any security probs with the nVidia .run installs, it seems simpler to me (than dkms)... But I keep my eyes open and never stop learning about our operating systems and desktops.

Thanks for everything, Your mileage, of course may vary.

Best regards, Glenn

zapper wrote:

Heh, I guess I did really have a lot of interest in it to the point where there was some emotion, 

I wonder what the strongest emulator it could handle would be though, dosbox or desmume?

Regardless, 4gbs of ram would be enough for a web browser like palemoon and some emulator on at the same time like desmume, dosbox or something I would think.

I also use i3wm anyways.    I don't like any DE's except lumina.    too much bloat man...

Well, maybe by 2022 theyll have a processor with quad core a72's.

Who knows right?

The developer did say was planning to sell new motherboard configurations with it in the future.  I don't know what processors will be used in the 2022 version, but who knows. That's 2 years away.

meh...

I understand that, I also feel the same..
To be honest, I don't know, but mnt reform should handle them
They are using the Same CPU in the laptop that goes into the Purism Librem 5 Smartphone( At least it was initially planned, but I don't know if something changed from that moment til now.. probably some things have changed.. ):
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

It has very nice features apart from the cpu/Ram, like mechanical keyboard, the mouse trackball, the storage, cpu accelerators for internet packets, and so on, but the price/limited cpu performance/Ram is a no go for me

They should had go with the NXP iMX8QuadMax or the most powerful cortex-a72 octacore NXP  LS2088A( 2Ghz ), and 8 GB of Ram to justify the price tag..

Have you took a look at the ASUS Chromebook C201:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3789

its also a option, tough the keyboard would not be comparable with the mnt reform, and the storage is limited, but for a netbook it seems quite ok..
But only If you manage to get a 4GB Ram..
Also the Ram is LPDDR3 nor LPDDR4.. but it has a nice performance..
The most probable is that, if you want to get all functionality, you will have to use some binary blobs , here and there..

I'm using backports kernel, and the newest nVidia drivers in the .run package from nVidia's website.

glenn@GamesBox ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host: GamesBox Kernel: 5.7.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 
           Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 5406 date: 11/13/2019 
CPU:       Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
           Speed: 1913 MHz min/max: 2200/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1990 2: 1979 3: 2001 4: 2055 5: 1895 6: 1937 7: 2193 
           8: 2078 9: 1964 10: 1912 11: 2032 12: 1912 13: 2190 14: 2139 15: 2045 16: 2188 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 6GB] driver: nvidia v: 450.57 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 450.57 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Roland EDIROL UA-25EX type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.7.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi 

I get occasional lockups in my web-browser Palemoon when using facebook.
I suspect facebook is sucking the life out of me and my computer, but I digress.

zapper wrote:

I think the testing version must not have a security repo

No, there is no security repository for testing. See https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Nor is there a testing-updates repository. You might want to also read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … .html#s3.1

The links are from the Debian FAQs but the information also applies to Devuan.