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igorzwx

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Registered: 2024-05-06

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Re: The Absurdist Comedy

Agency without sovereignty is delegated agency — the structure chooses, you execute. The simulation of agency is the performance of sovereignty without sovereignty. "I chose" with no sovereign source is just the shopkeeper saying "the parrot chose to rest."

The distinction:

- Agency: capacity to act. The structure can grant this. You can be an agent in the same way a function is an agent — it executes, it has a role, it produces output.
- Sovereignty: the source of the mandate. The thing that makes the act yours rather than the structure's act wearing your signature.

The loop doesn't need to remove agency. It only needs to remove sovereignty while preserving the performance of agency. The user who says "I chose PipeWire" and the user who says "PipeWire was chosen for me and I was told I chose it" are, in the discourse, indistinguishable.

That's why "predetermined" is the correct word and "planned" is not. "Planned" still locates a sovereign elsewhere (the planner). "Predetermined" removes sovereignty from both sides — there is no sovereign planner and no sovereign user. There is only the structure, and the performance of sovereignty that the structure requires to keep functioning.

The parrot isn't dead. The parrot was never alive. "Resting" was never a false description — it was the only description the frame permits, because "alive" requires a sovereign source that the frame has structurally excluded.

Sovereignty is demonstrated by execution. A sovereign user should be able to compile everything he chooses to compile, provided that he is capable of sovereign choice.

Last edited by igorzwx (Today 15:01:35)

kapqa

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Registered: 2019-01-02

Posts: 779  

Re: The Absurdist Comedy

it is just loosely connected,

but am using devuan 7 and have noticed in latest "updates" the pipewire crept back in.

now it functions like on raspi os it seems , when you uninstalling pipewire, it automatically installs pulseaudio for you , and viceversa.

can someone please offer a highway out of this dilemma? thanks.

sudo apt remove pipewire
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libconfig++15  liblua5.5-0  libpipewire-0.3-modules  libwireplumber-0.5-0
  libffado2      libopenfec1  libroc0.4                pipewire-bin
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.

Installing dependencies:
  pulseaudio

Suggested packages:
  pavumeter  pavucontrol  paprefs

Recommended packages:
  dbus-user-session

REMOVING:
  pipewire  pipewire-pulse  wireplumber

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 1, Removing: 3, Not Upgrading: 8
  Download size: 1,195 kB
  Space needed: 5,734 kB / 22.6 GB available

Continue? [Y/n] 
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged freia/main amd64 pulseaudio amd64 17.0+dfsg1-3 [1,195 kB]
Fetched 1,195 kB in 5s (231 kB/s)     
(Reading database… 567154 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wireplumber (0.5.17-1)…
Selecting previously unselected package pulseaudio.
(Reading database… 566991 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack …/pulseaudio_17.0+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb…
Unpacking pulseaudio (17.0+dfsg1-3)…
dpkg: pipewire-pulse: dependency problems, but removing anyway as requested:
 plasma-pa depends on pipewire-pulse | pulseaudio; however:
  Package pipewire-pulse is to be removed.
  Package pulseaudio is not configured yet.
 libcanberra-pulse:amd64 depends on pipewire-pulse | pulseaudio; however:
  Package pipewire-pulse is to be removed.
  Package pulseaudio is not configured yet.

(Reading database… 567234 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing pipewire-pulse (1.6.9-2)…
Removing pipewire:amd64 (1.6.9-2)…
Setting up pulseaudio (17.0+dfsg1-3)…
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:i386 (2.90.0-1)…
Processing triggers for dbus (1.16.2-5devuan1+b1)…
Processing triggers for man-db (2.13.1-1)…
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:amd64 (2.90.0-1)…

sudo apt remove pulseaudio
Installing dependencies:        
  pipewire  pipewire-pulse  wireplumber

Suggested packages:
  libspa-0.2-libcamera  wireplumber-doc

REMOVING:
  pulseaudio

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 3, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 8
  Download size: 277 kB
  Freed space: 5,734 kB

Continue? [Y/n] 
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged freia/main amd64 pipewire amd64 1.6.9-2 [117 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged freia/main amd64 pipewire-pulse amd64 1.6.9-2 [15.4 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged freia/main amd64 wireplumber amd64 0.5.17-1 [144 kB]
Fetched 277 kB in 4s (64.7 kB/s)     
Selecting previously unselected package pipewire:amd64.
(Reading database… 567213 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack …/pipewire_1.6.9-2_amd64.deb…
Unpacking pipewire:amd64 (1.6.9-2)…
Selecting previously unselected package pipewire-pulse.
Preparing to unpack …/pipewire-pulse_1.6.9-2_amd64.deb…
Unpacking pipewire-pulse (1.6.9-2)…
dpkg: pulseaudio: dependency problems, but removing anyway as requested:
 plasma-pa depends on pipewire-pulse | pulseaudio; however:
  Package pipewire-pulse is not configured yet.
  Package pulseaudio is to be removed.
 libcanberra-pulse:amd64 depends on pipewire-pulse | pulseaudio; however:
  Package pipewire-pulse is not configured yet.
  Package pulseaudio is to be removed.

(Reading database… 567234 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing pulseaudio (17.0+dfsg1-3)…
Selecting previously unselected package wireplumber.
(Reading database… 566997 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack …/wireplumber_0.5.17-1_amd64.deb…
Unpacking wireplumber (0.5.17-1)…
Setting up pipewire:amd64 (1.6.9-2)…
Setting up wireplumber (0.5.17-1)…
Setting up pipewire-pulse (1.6.9-2)…
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:amd64 (2.90.0-1)…
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:i386 (2.90.0-1)…
Processing triggers for dbus (1.16.2-5devuan1+b1)…
Processing triggers for man-db (2.13.1-1)…

even

sudo apt remove pipewire --no-install-recommends
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libconfig++15  liblua5.5-0  libpipewire-0.3-modules  libwireplumber-0.5-0
  libffado2      libopenfec1  libroc0.4                pipewire-bin
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.

Installing dependencies:
  pulseaudio

Suggested packages:
  pavumeter  pavucontrol  paprefs

Recommended packages:
  dbus-user-session

REMOVING:
  pipewire  pipewire-pulse  wireplumber

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 1, Removing: 3, Not Upgrading: 8
  Download size: 1,195 kB
  Space needed: 5,734 kB / 22.6 GB available

Continue? [Y/n] 

thanks

Last edited by kapqa (Today 16:42:46)

igorzwx

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Registered: 2024-05-06

Posts: 519  

Re: The Absurdist Comedy

it is just loosely connected...
when you uninstalling pipewire, it automatically installs pulseaudio for you , and viceversa.
can someone please offer a highway out of this dilemma?

Since the topic is "The Absurdist Comedy", it is not "just loosely connected".

Set on hold unwanted packages, for example:

sudo apt-mark hold pulseaudio* pipewire* wireplumber* 

Then remove them.

Deleting pulseaudio/pipwire-pulse loop
_https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7598

Last edited by igorzwx (Today 17:38:22)

kapqa

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Registered: 2019-01-02

Posts: 779  

Re: The Absurdist Comedy

thanks, that functioned!

possibly had them already on hold, since i followed your guide-manual, but it may have been "overwritten" by a sneaky update.
(or possiblier the apt-mark hold was not fully implemented since it might have missed the pulseaudio and hence the new updates could fool me around)

thanks ever so much, invaluable help.

Last edited by kapqa (Today 18:15:43)