chimaera is going to archive?

IdeaFix · 2026-09-21 20:36:48

I can make apt-get update but not apt-get upgrade

http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/a/apr-util/libaprutil1_1.6.1-5+deb11u2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/libd/libdbi-perl/libdbi-perl_1.643-3+deb11u2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-amd64_5.10.262-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/python-httplib2/python3-httplib2_0.18.1-3+deb11u1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/u/unzip/unzip_6.0-26+deb11u2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]

All this files are in Debian 11 (Bullseye) archive.

pcalvert · 2026-09-22 01:25:31

If you haven't already, try again. This is most likely a temporary issue caused by mirrors not being in sync.

turbo · 2026-09-22 01:57:05

same here just different files. It is going on since last week already.

Even changed the sources from standard devuan to my closest mirror.

Err:1 http://mirror.dogged.ca/devuan/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 libaprutil1 amd64 1.6.1-5+deb11u2
  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]
Err:2 http://mirror.dogged.ca/devuan/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 mariadb-common all 1:10.5.29-0+deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]
Err:3 http://mirror.dogged.ca/devuan/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 libmariadb3 amd64 1:10.5.29-0+deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/a/apr-util/libaprutil1_1.6.1-5+deb11u2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/m/mariadb-10.5/mariadb-common_10.5.29-0+deb11u1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/m/mariadb-10.5/libmariadb3_10.5.29-0+deb11u1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.66.132 80]

Any suggestions or just "sit it out" and wait?

IdeaFix · 2026-09-22 07:49:24

No changes. I think, it is not a "mirrors not being in sync" problem. All debian packages are in archive repository but devuan source is trying to merge them from deb.debian.org.

IdeaFix · 2026-09-22 07:52:54

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7317 - Last time, it took some time to acknowledge the problem.

chris2be8 · 2026-09-22 16:17:31

My first step would be to point a web browser at http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main and look around. It may just be some paths have changed.

And at the actual paths you have in /etc/apt/sources.list etc.

IdeaFix · 2026-09-22 17:39:13

Debian repo is in archive now. Devuan merged repo points not to archive but to main updates pool - http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main

BUG is on the devuan side. It’s really sad that the developers can’t even properly move a release to the archive.

I’m not demanding anything, and I realize that no one owes me anything, but I’ve been pointing out the problem and its causes for some time now. It would be great if someone responded.

golinux · 2026-09-22 17:45:00

This is a user support forum. Have you filed an official bug report where a dev will actually see it??

You can start here:
https://bugs.devuan.org/db/ix/full.html

ralph.ronnquist · 2026-09-22 22:58:13

Yes there is some inconsistency there which might be due to those particular package version are available neither in deb.debian.org nor in archive.debian.org. They apparently where available in deb.debian.org but then have got removed from there and, contrary to expectation, not been placed in archive.debian.org. (Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places ?)

It does look like Devuan's amprolla will need some logic to handle that. Perhaps you would want to assist with that... (how to merge debian packages that get dropped from deb.debian.org without turning up in archive.debian.org). Or you could perhaps get in touch with the debian developers on that issue. Afaict it would affect Debian 11 Bullseye in a similar way.

IdeaFix · 2026-09-23 09:02:30

There is no "security" in debian archive for Bullseye. Security becomes a part of updates.

https://gist.github.com/ishad0w/7665cde … 13802e61e4
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20 … 00415.html

> Did this mean that everything that was in
> bullseye-security was rolled into the main
> archive
Yes, pretty much

That might be the reason.

ralph.ronnquist · 2026-09-23 09:32:44

Did you find the package files? Which repository are they in?

The transfer into archive does seem to be a gradual thing rather than instantaneous, so if you hold your breath for a week or so, it might have sorted itself.

IdeaFix · Yesterday 17:55:56

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors … m%2F#00001 - last two posts

https://gist.github.com/ishad0w/7665cde … 13802e61e4

I understand that it is very difficult for devuan team to merge this repo https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/deb … 3T220410Z/

Last edited by IdeaFix (Yesterday 17:57:36)

ralph.ronnquist · Yesterday 21:25:36

As you knw, chimaera is "end of life" and there are a couple of newer releases now in play: daedalus, excalibur. How about upgrading?

And, if that snapshot has those debs, it'd be easy for you to add that to your sources list. Would be a way to fix the situation for yourself; your personal merge. if you like.

IdeaFix · Today 07:46:27

I need Tomcat 9 and Java 8. Tomcat 9 is available in the standard repositories, while I get Java 8 from Temurin. I also have ELTS from Freexian.

Upgrading to newer distribution versions would deprive me of the distribution's benefits if I had to install Tomcat 9 from a tarball.

I understand that Chimaera is currently EOL, but that doesn't mean it should be moved to the archive with errors.

ralph.ronnquist · Today 08:22:16

I think almost everyone agrees with you, but it looks like it has happened, so now we (you) need to go on from there ... to stay you need to find appropriate debian repository snapshots that include the needed package versions, and then add those to your sources.list. And you might then also want to have pinning set up to restrict those sources to the particular packages. Alternatively you just download the deb files...

E.g. https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/deb … u1_all.deb is one of them.

EDIT EDIT: I couldn't convince apt-get to use a sources.list line, so I have to stay with advicing you to download the deb file(s).

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