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rbit

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Registered: 2018-06-12

Posts: 61  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

DevArch:

neither Excalibur nor Daedalus netinstall .iso images have WiFi support; they all require iwlwifi-ty* on an external USB drive. However, even when I provide it, Devuan is unable to find and use the driver.

The iwlwifi firmware issue is a bug on that iso.  A new iso should be making its way to the mirrors soon.  The problem was there was a newer firmware (firmware-iwlwifi_20250410-2_all.deb) but Contents-firmware listed an older one (firmware-iwlwifi_20241210-1_all.deb).

I'm not sure why the installer would not use the driver you provided, I'll take a look at that part.  Could you tell me the steps you took so I can reproduce it?

Then "The system can be set up to symlink /bin and /sbin to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin, respectively. ....If unsure, the safe choice is "No".
However, the default choice was Yes.
So,Yes.

That seems like an odd question, it should probably be removed from excalibur due to usrmerge being required now.

Last edited by rbit (2025-06-17 16:55:42)

Devarch

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Registered: 2022-10-03

Posts: 95  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

I'm not sure why the installer would not use the driver you provided, I'll take a look at that part.  Could you tell me the steps you took so I can reproduce it?

rbit, if I remember correctly, I've downloaded the .deb file as the driver, unpacked it, and placed the firmware folder on a USB flash drive.

I see that there is a new . iso to download.

What about this Debian bug https://github.com/mattermost/desktop/issues/2853?
Will Devuan follow Debian's package policy?

Some packages that are present in Daedalus (Bookworm) are missing in Excalibur (Trixie). Some of them, like gconf2 and gconf-service, are only available in Daedalus/Bookworm. Others are in Ceres/Sid. This produces a bit of a 'Frankendevuan' situation."

rolfie

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Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,260  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

... if I remember correctly, I've downloaded the .deb file as the driver, unpacked it, and placed the firmware folder on a USB flash drive.

I guess there is the mistake. AFAIK the installer looks for a deb file.

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

Posts: 2,650  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

What about this Debian bug https://github.com/mattermost/desktop/issues/2853?
Will Devuan follow Debian's package policy?

I don't understand your question. That looks like a mattermost or electron bug, not a debian bug, and it looks like they already fixed it by removing unnecessary dependencies.

Devarch

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Registered: 2022-10-03

Posts: 95  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

What I'm trying to say is that many applications are impossible to install because they depend on something else. Almost all these packages are present in Ceres or Daedalus. In other words, Excalibur has the fewest number of packages. What's unclear to me is why a package can exist both in Daedalus and Ceres but not be available in Excalibur?

ralph.ronnquist

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From: Battery Point, Tasmania, AUS

Registered: 2016-11-30

Posts: 1,407  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

Sometimes one can use https://pkginfo.devuan.org to learn about packages and their dependencies. It doesn't offer much in terms of reflections on underlying motivations though.

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

Posts: 2,650  

Re: No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370

It's possible for packages to be pulled from the testing suite because of problems and the fixed version got into ceres too late to be included or possibly will migrate down in a week or two. Check the changelogs and bug reports for those packages and you might find an explanation.